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Fehlender Parameter "Land" bei WLM-Vorlage
[edit]Hallo Ziko, du hast die WLM-Vorlage bei deinen Bildern ohne Parameter für das Land eingesetzt, so dass deine Bilder in die Kategorie unknown country einsortiert werden. Richtig muss es lauten: {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2011|de}}--Cirdan (talk) 07:19, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Please give images better names
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→AzaToth 21:11, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Please give images better names
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→AzaToth 15:28, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 has finished
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Dear Ziko,
Thank you for contributing to Wiki Loves Monuments and sharing your pictures with the whole world. You are very welcome to keep uploading images, even though you can't win prizes any longer. To get started on editing relevant Wikipedia articles, click here for more information and help. |
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Attend the award ceremony of the Dutch Wiki Loves Monuments 2011
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Dear Ziko,
We've already thanked you for your contribution to the Wiki Loves monuments photo contest. But with a contest, there are prizes to win! The award ceremony will be held in Utrecht on Saturday the 5th of November, at the end of the Dutch Wikimedia Conference at Media Plaza, held the same day. Media Plaza is located next to the Central Station in Utrecht, in the middle of the shopping mall. Remember: in order to make a chance to win, you need a confirmed e-mail address added to your Commons settings.
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Wikipedia Arabic Map
[edit]Hi Ziko, Regarding this map, I am wondering where you managed to obtain the statistics? Are they periodically published somewhere? Thanks Moemin05 (talk) 00:08, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Real Life Barnstar |
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Has the depicted person given her consent to the publication of her picture? 80.245.147.81 11:41, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
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Wiki Loves Monuments NL
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Beste Ziko,
Alle winnende foto's van Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 zijn ondertussen gedrukt als kalenders.
Wikimedia Nederland stelt er hier 100 van beschikbaar voor alle uploaders van de afbeeldingen. Geef op de bijgevoegde link je naam en adres en we sturen je kosteloos een exemplaar toe, als dank voor je deelname! Let op: op = op!! Bestel hier één kalender per adres.
Ook dit jaar zal er in september weer een Nederlandse Wiki Loves Monuments plaatsvinden, als onderdeel van de internationale wedstrijd. Meer informatie vind je tegen die tijd op http://www.wikilovesmonuments.nl/.
Ook zoeken wij nog vrijwilligers die het leuk vinden om mee te helpen met het organiseren van de landelijke wedstrijd of van locale evenementen (een "Wiki takes..." in je eigen woonplaats dus!). Meer informatie daarover vind je op de wiki van Wikimedia Nederland.
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Wikimania
[edit]Hello, thanks for your Wikimania photos! Didn't you have many more on that Google+ album? It's a pity not to have all photos here on Commons. Also, if you know more people who posted photos on Flickr/Facebook/Google+/elsewhere, except those correctly tagged on Flickr, it would be wonderful if you let me know. Thanks, Nemo 09:46, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello,
Thanks for posting photos during “Wiki loves monuments 2012”. Unfortunately, the picture you took of the Hôtel de ville in Boulogne-sur-Mer can't be accepted. In fact, this building is not protected as “Monument historique”.
Best regards, Pymouss Let’s talk - 21:43, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
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Vera (talk) 17:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Rijksmonument 0
[edit]Ziko,
je recente uploads van foto's in Delft en 2005 Münster St.-Paulus-Dom zijn allen met vermelding van Template:Rijksmonument 0 (nul, onbekend Rijksmonument nummer). Een aantal foto's zijn hierdoor door een bot geplaats in Category:Rijksmonumenten in Amersfoort. Kun je beide corrigeren? Het is eenvoudig te controlen of ze allen gecorrigeerd zijn: ze dienen dan niet meer vorraan te staan in Category:Rijksmonumenten with known IDs. HenkvD (talk) 05:27, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for participating in Wiki Loves Monuments 2012!Dear Ziko, Thanks to the participation of people like you, the contest gathered more than 350,000 pictures of cultural heritage objects from 36 countries around the world, becoming the largest photography competition to have ever taken place. You can find all your pictures in your upload log, and are of course very welcome to keep uploading images and help develop Wikimedia Commons, even though you will not be able to win more prizes (just yet). If you'd like to start editing relevant Wikipedia articles and share your knowledge with other people, please go to the Wikipedia Welcome page for more information, guidance, and help. To make future contests even more successful than this year, we would like to invite you to share your experiences with us in a short survey. Please fill in this short survey in your own language, and help us learn what you liked and didn't like about Wiki Loves Monuments 2012. Kind regards, |
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Vera (talk) 22:56, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Holiday greetings
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Wishing you the happiest of holidays — Vera (talk), December 2012
and the best new year!
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Hey Ziko, een aantal afbeeldingen in deze categorie hebben een onduidelijke naam, zou jij ze middels {{Rename}} er iets beters van kunnen maken? --Vera (talk) 17:32, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Picture of the Year voting round 1 open
[edit]Dear Wikimedians,
Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2012 Picture of the Year competition is now open. We're interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year for 2012. Voting is open to established Wikimedia users who meet the following criteria:
- Users must have an account, at any Wikimedia project, which was registered before Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0000 [UTC].
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Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered in this competition. From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historically relevant images, images portraying the world's best architecture, maps, emblems, diagrams created with the most modern technology, and impressive human portraits, Commons features pictures of all flavors.
For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories. Two rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you can vote for as many images as you like. The first round category winners and the top ten overall will then make it to the final. In the final round, when a limited number of images are left, you must decide on the one image that you want to become the Picture of the Year.
To see the candidate images just go to the POTY 2012 page on Wikimedia Commons
Wikimedia Commons celebrates our featured images of 2012 with this contest. Your votes decide the Picture of the Year, so remember to vote in the first round by January 30, 2013.
Thanks,
the Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year committee
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Vectorizing and translating images
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Please see :
- en:WP:GL (and it's German version, more active)
- use the {{Translate}} template when uploading
- Check if the translator is fixed
Yug (talk) 13:26, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Demande d'aide
[edit]Hello, Sorry to take your time. But I have a problem of mutual misunderstanding with two of our Dutch friends. I find it hard to make them understand that I'm a clumsy friend who wants help in their language. I was even more difficult to make them understand that I'm a crazy utopian and my only interest is the free dissemination of knowledge. Can you look at our exchanges and clearing up this misunderstanding? For Phoebus you can find all the information from Wikimedia France. I can also answer your questions. Thank you for what you can do.
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Salix2#
--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 13:34, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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A333 (talk) 11:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Interview for Wikimedia Blog
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Hallo, ich habe Foto und Blog gesehen, meinen Glückwunsch - auch zum Reiseziel Brügge. Besten Gruß Ziko (Diskussion) 12:19, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Vielen Dank für die Glückwünsche! Arcalino (Diskussion) 11:15, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
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Vera (talk) 21:12, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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BrightRaven (talk) 08:28, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
A photo you took
[edit]Hello, Ziko. I've been using a photo you took in my userpages, as I'm on it. I hope this is not a problem for you. --ralgis·/t/ 04:01, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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1971markus (☠): ⇒ Laberkasten ... 23:59, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
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1971markus (☠): ⇒ Laberkasten ... 00:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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PanchoS (talk) 11:02, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for participating in Wiki Loves Monuments 2013! Please help with this survey.Dear Ziko, Thanks to the participation of people like you, the contest gathered more than 365,000 pictures of cultural heritage objects from more than 50 countries around the world, becoming the largest photography competition to have ever taken place. You can find all your pictures in your upload log, and are of course very welcome to keep uploading images and help develop Wikimedia Commons, even though you will not be able to win more prizes (just yet). If you'd like to start editing relevant Wikipedia articles and share your knowledge with other people, please go to the Wikipedia Welcome page for more information, guidance, and help. To make future contests even more successful than this year, we would like to invite you to share your experiences with us in a short survey. Please fill in this short survey in your own language, and help us learn what you liked and didn't like about Wiki Loves Monuments 2013. Kind regards, |
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Hallo Ziko van Dijk,
Deine Grafik über die Wikipedia-Nutzung in verschiedenen Sprachversionen finde ich wirklich sehr interessant. Hättest Du nicht Lust das wieder zu aktualisieren (beispielsweise das Jahr 2012) ? Ich fände es interessant hier die Entwicklung zu sehen. Man würde ja vielleicht erwarten, dass die nationalsprachlichen WP-Versionen mit zunehmendem Ausbau immer mehr Gewicht im Vergleich zur global dominierenden englischen Version bekommen. Ich fände auch eine analoge Grafik ganz aufschlussreich, die zeigt aus welchen Ländern heraus die deutschsprachige Version wie häufig abgerufen wird.
Viele Grüße
--Furfur (talk) 16:39, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for taking part in the Wiki Loves Monuments participants' survey!Dear Ziko, Thank you for taking part in the Wiki Loves Monuments participants' survey. Your answers will help us improve the organization of future photo contests! In case you haven't filled in the questionnaire yet, you can still do so during the next 7 days. And by the way: the winning pictures of this year's international contest have been announced. Enjoy! Kind regards, |
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- Hallo, ich glaube mich zu erinnern, dass die Daten damals nicht ganz korrekt waren... und überhaupt überlege ich gerade, wäre so etwas nicht vielleicht eine Aufgabe für Wikidata oder Wikimaps, mit einer Einbindung von jeweils neuen Daten? --Ziko (talk) 18:33, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Aufzüge
[edit]Ich habe mich gewundert, dass es Aufzüge gibt, deren Herstellerbezeichnungen anderweitig konnotiert sind. Zum Beispiel enthält der Name eines Essener Aufzugsunternehmens den Familiennamen eines Spieleautors. Außerdem gibt es ein Kölner Aufzugsunternehmen, dessen Name den Familiennamen eines Formel-1-Weltmeisters enthält. --84.61.176.82 10:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Heute feiert Akihito seinen 80. Geburtstag. Von daher frage ich mich, welche Aufzugshersteller die Aufzüge in den Düsseldorfer Hotels „Asahi“ und „Nikko“ hergestellt/modernisiert haben. Es wäre nett, wenn der Benutzer PostTower auf YouTube diese Aufzüge filmen könnte. --84.61.176.82 11:07, 23 December 2013 (UTC)