Template talk:I18n/by

Comparison

The templates {{By}} and {{I18n/by}} have not values for all languages defined; the table shows which values exist. As always, the English value serves as the default value.

When your language knowledge let you recognize something wrong or missing, please correct it - or give me a note! -- sarang♥사랑

lg	{{By}}	{{i18}}
ar	بواسطة	مِن
bg	из	из
bn	কর্তৃক	অনুযায়ী
ca	per	de
cs	od	od
da	fra	fra
de	durch	von
en	by	by
eo	de
es	por	de
fa	توسط
fr	par	de
gl	de	de
ia	de	de
it	di	da
io	de	de
ja	〜によって
mk	од	од
no	av	fra
nl	door	van
pl	przez	od
pt	por	de
ro	de	de
ru	от	от
sk	de	od
sv	av	från
ta	மூலம்
uk	по
vec	de	de
zh	通过

@Sarang: should we now wait for reaction from Camulogene77 — what did he craft the second template for? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:53, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: I know: {{By}} was established by him just for translation; I abused the template by adding the parameter for the user, so it can be used by some other templates. Every adding of more correct translations will follow this intention - but if you are insure you may try to ask him.

I made the other template {{I18n/by}} because I had not been happy with some translations, see the differences shown in the table; it comes from different semantics of the word "by". -- sarang♥사랑 11:14, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

you are right. I propose to merge the two and redirect {{By}} to {{I18n/by}}, but I'm really not sure that the translations are correct. Camulogene77 (talk) 10:29, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

@Sarang: please, check your table against the present {{By}} and {{I18n/by}}. For Macedonian (mk) you wrote in an argument for another (random) language and I am not willing neither to hunt other mistakes one-by-one nor to replace your posting with my one. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:40, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I corrected the table with the new I18-mk value as corrected by Bjankuloski06. Unfortunately I do not have enough skill in languages that I wold be able to insert more or better values into either of both templates. -- sarang♥사랑 10:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Meta category switch

@Sarang: no, Revision of Template:By is not a good idea. If you want a switch, then make an explicit parameter for {{By}} which can be activated from upper-level templates. Rendering of grammar should not have dependencies formulated in this way. Also, get rid of (mild) JuTa’s syndrome, please. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: There are different possibilities to overcome the translations semantic problems. At the moment there are two switches, activated from upper-level templates as By color. The different usages of By need specific translations, and the usages now introduced by me to name the creator of a file use also a switch, the presence of parameter 1. As I have explained in the docu the template did not translate well in German - now it does, when the mc parameter is used. Yes, it is just a workaround, but at the moment I cannot see what's wrong with it? Of course, other users may find another solution. -- sarang♥사랑 13:13, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

JuTa’s syndrome: I had set in my preferencies "mark all edits minor by default" because almost all my edits are really minor; and when I am changing more, I often forget to untick that box. Sorry when that's irritating! I will try to look for it, but best would be when the system could recognize larger changes and set the switch automatically. -- sarang♥사랑 13:54, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

You can’t do localization like this!

One-word localization templates like this (or {{Of}}) are complete nonsense, that’s not how languages and translation work! You might as well try to create one-letter templates and suddenly have localization {{O}}{{F}} {{A}}{{L}}{{L}} {{W}}{{O}}{{R}}{{D}}{{S}}! You might want to read e.g. mw:Help:System_message#Avoid fragmented or "patchwork" messages. --Mormegil (talk) 09:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Leading space - what for?

I like to use this template in file descriptions for attribution, etc. But what purpose does the (default) leading space serve? I find it irritating. I know I can turn it off with parameter "ns", but why is this the default behaviour? ΟΥΤΙΣ (talk) 12:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)