Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives October 05 2020

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File:Tomb_of_I'timād-ud-Daulah_-_Agra_-_Uttar_Pradesh_-_008.jpg

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  • Nomination Tomb of I'timād-ud-Daulah, India (by Rupeshsarkar) --Atudu 09:19, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. --Alexander Leisser 12:16, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. Pixelated, washed out, not centered... --Podzemnik 06:44, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose … and the building looks like collapsing — I mean, a perspective correction would be necessary, but will be difficult because there is probably not enough room at the left and right. --Aristeas 09:07, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per others. Far from QI --Milseburg 10:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Perspective --Palauenc05 20:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Running total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Decline?   --Palauenc05 20:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Butzweiler_Wegekreuz_1635.jpg

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  • Nomination Wayside cross (1635) in Newel-Butzweiler, Germany. --Palauenc05 15:03, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality -- Spurzem 20:31, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
    A bit soft. But its white balance is not ok. --Augustgeyler 09:39, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
    What does that mean? It's exactly the colour of the stone. --Palauenc05 11:51, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 Comment Was hier seit einiger Zeit an Nörgeleien abgeht, ist ungeheuerlich. Ich habe mittlerweile keine Lust mehr, hier noch ein Bild vorzustellen. Mehr dazu steht auf meiner Benutzerseite. – The nagging that startet here for some time is outrageous. Meanwhile, I don't feel like presenting another picture here. You can find more information on my user page -- Spurzem (talk) 19:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support (Very) Slight overexposure (somewhat fading colours in the background), but main object is well depicted. --Smial 20:46, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support exactly as Smial. --Aristeas 09:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Running total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promote?   --Milseburg 11:06, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Baralacha_La_towards_Leh_Jul19_D72_10848.jpg

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  • Nomination Bara-lacha La, Himachal towards Leh, Ladakh. Elev. 4,890m (16,040') --Tagooty 08:23, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Promotion
 Support Good quality. --DXR 08:46, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 Weak oppose In my point of view there is not enough detail, espcially at the foreground with its cars. --Augustgeyler 21:18, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
@Augustgeyler: Pl. see the new version with some sharpening to improve clarity. Note that the focus of this image is the landscape in this desolate high-altitude semi-desert. The vehicles add only a small element of context -- the highway from Manali to Leh. --Tagooty 05:56, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Neutral Yes your edit improved it. I changed my vote to neutral.--Augustgeyler 07:58, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support --Moroder 10:34, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Running total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promote?   --Moroder 10:34, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

File:2015_Kraków,_Wawel,_Baszta_Złodziejska_04.jpg

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  • Nomination Thief Tower. Wawel. Kraków, Lesser Poland Voivodeship, Poland. --Halavar 10:02, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose The upper part of that building is out of focus. --Augustgeyler 14:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
  • I disagree. I would like to hear opinions of others --Halavar 14:52, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose well composed image but bricks and roof tiles in the upper part of the frame (starting just below the line of the white window sills) are blurry. An artistic shot nevertheless. --Virtual-Pano (talk) 22:17, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support --Moroder 10:40, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 16:40, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

File:2015_Kraków,_Wawel,_Bazylika_archikatedralna_św._Stanisława_i_św._Wacława_13.jpg

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  • Nomination Sigismund Chapel. Archcathedral Basilica of Saints Stanislaus and Wenceslaus. Wawel. Kraków, Lesser Poland Voivodeship, Poland. --Halavar 10:02, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. --Jakubhal 10:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Weak oppose It is cropped to much on the left. --Augustgeyler 21:18, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Yes, the composition is lacking.--Peulle 09:24, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. --Scotch Mist 08:24, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I agree with Augustgeyler. Should be some room for a wider crop on the left, I would support it. --Lion-hearted85 (talk) 19:33, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Bad crop to the left. Sebring12Hrs (talk) 10:20, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Per above Poco a poco 21:22, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Running total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 5 oppose → Decline?   --Augustgeyler 19:57, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

File:Old_Jewish_Cemetery_in_Josefov,_Prague_-_8363.jpg

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  • Nomination Old Jewish Cemetery in Josefov, Prague. By User:Jorgeroyan --Andrew J.Kurbiko 07:30, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality. --Moroder 04:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Weak oppose The composition is missing a clearer decission what to show and what to cropp; and the white balance is looking strange. Please discuss! --Augustgeyler 10:06, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality --Jakubhal 05:33, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality to me, too. -- Ikan Kekek 16:39, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Unclear subject.--Peulle 09:25, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per others. --Fischer.H 12:49, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Not the best photo ever, but OK if we compare it with many other QIs promoted in the last years. The subject is the cemetery, of course, and while the composition is not a masterpiece, the photo easily achieves to give an impression of the cemetery. --Aristeas 07:26, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Weak support OK for QI. --A.Savin 14:05, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I don't have any problems with the compo and yes the WB is a bit too cold but still ok, but the image is clearly tilted, look at the building on the right (background) Poco a poco 21:21, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Running total: 5 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Promote?   --Aristeas 07:26, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

File:2015_Kraków,_Zespół_klasztorny_paulinów_01.jpg

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  • Nomination Skałka Monastery. Kraków, Lesser Poland Voivodeship, Poland. --Halavar 09:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. --Christian Ferrer 19:51, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose In my eyes there is not enough detail. --Augustgeyler 14:45, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Sorry, I agree with August on this one. -- Ikan Kekek 06:44, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support The very soft lighting fools you into thinking that the image is not sharp enough. But in fact it is still within acceptable limits, although not necessarily outstanding. --Smial 10:30, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Ok for me. Sebring12Hrs (talk) 19:14, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I'm landing on the opposing side; even for a 2015 photo, the minimum level of sharpness I expect of a building is to be able to read that text on the wall.--Peulle 09:28, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose somewhat soft throughout and even taking the dificult light conditions into the consideration the left hand side of the roof is too blury
  •  Oppose Agree, it lacks sharpness Poco a poco 21:18, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Running total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 5 oppose → Decline?   --Virtual-Pano 21:52, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Karden,_Stiftsschule_-_Nordost_(2020-07-12_Sp).jpg

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  • Nomination Old school building with stepped gable in Karden -- Spurzem 10:01, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. --MB-one 12:24, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. Image is not sharp enough. Pixelization. I think that problem can't be fixed. --Halavar 15:17, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Where are you seeing pixellation, and at what screen size? Even at full size on my 19-inch screen, it looks pretty good, with some blotchiness in the sky. Looks fine on my 13-inch. IMO, solid quality. -- Ikan Kekek 10:28, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  weak contra I do see not enough detail.--Augustgeyler 13:57, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Augustgeyler: Don't you have another better contra argument? If you look at the building on Google Maps, you will see that a photographer cannot find a position to show the eastern front and the stair gable together. I suppose that's what you mean when you don't see enough detail. Or should I have had a few more windows broken in the gable wall? -- Spurzem 14:57, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 Comment Dear @Spurzem, you got me wrong. Of course nobody wants the photographer to change the taken object. What we may ask the photographer, is to reproduce as much detail as we could see as a real observer in situ. I am missing these existing details of the real world which are not captured (or at least not reproduced) by that image, like structures of leaves, plaster, metal and other surfaces. Your image shows very less details of that kind due to processing or compression or perhaps coursed by overexposure at some areas. --Augustgeyler (talk) 17:06, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose As always a very good composition and informative view, but burnt, overexposed clouds, sorry. This is most likely not to be fixed without it looking very strange. --Smial 15:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Smial: Danke für den erneuten Tritt! Er sollte mir endgültig verbieten, hier noch weiter vorstellig zu werden. Lange wäre es sowieso nicht mehr. Trotzdem weiß ich nicht, ob ich mich nur wundern oder ärgern soll, welcher Murks und Schrott hier mitunter hochgejubelt wird. Ich habe schon QIs mit helleren Wolken, dunklen Schatten (zum Beispiel etwas weiter oben), hässlichen Unschärfen, Farbstichen und Überbelichtungen gesehen, die niemand beanstandete. Gruß -- Spurzem 17:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Schade, daß du das persönlich nimmst. Du weißt genau, daß ich sehr viel von deiner Fotografie halte und habe schon manche deiner Bilder bei mMn ungerechtfertigten Abwertungen verteidigt. Aber ich bemühe mich sehr um Neutralität. Solcherlei ausgefressene Lichter habe ich schon sehr häufig bemängelt (und bin dann oft genug überstimmt worden), da kann ich hier nicht drüber hinwegsehen. Wenn du aus dem Raw eine Version entwickeln kannst, bei der die Wolken eine halbwegs natürlich erscheinende Struktur bekommen, ändere ich gerne meine Beurteilung. Aus dem JPG geht es nicht, es sieht Sch**** aus, wenn man daran herumfrickelt. -- Smial 20:51, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Smial: Mit RAW habe ich mich noch nicht befasst; das ist mir auf meine alten Tage zu kompliziert. Mal sehen, vielleicht lade ich das eine oder andere Bild noch in die Commons hoch, wenn es mir inhaltlich interessant erscheint. Aber bei QI habe ich offensichtlich nichts mehr verloren; schade. Gruß -- Spurzem 09:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Oh, sorry, daß du nicht RAW knipst, war mir nicht bekannt, den Vorschlag hätte ich dann nicht gemacht. Hast du es mal mit Belichtungsreihen versucht bei statischen Motiven mit solch hohen Kontrasten? Aufhellen zu dunkler Bereiche geht fast immer, aber was einmal RGB (250,250,255) hat, ist halt futsch. Speicherplatz kostet ja nichts. Und, ja, du solltest in jedem Fall hier weiter Bilder vorstellen und nicht immer gleich mit Rückzug drohen, wenn mal eins keine Mehrheit bekommt. Deine Fotografie ist gestalterisch deutlich über dem Durchschnitt hier. --Smial 15:30, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose details lost in the white areas of the sky, likely due to a small overexposition. Christian Ferrer 22:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Imo some wrong pixels in the sky are irrelevant. What counts is the good composition --Moroder 04:17, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose A little bit to much CAs for me. Sebring12Hrs (talk) 19:16, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support --Palauenc05 06:42, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Not so concerned about white areas of the sky but reduced CAs would have been preferred although overall still QI for me --Scotch Mist 08:20, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per others, sorry. --A.Savin 14:02, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Sorry? Okay. -- Spurzem 21:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose as per Augustgeyler. Crep171166 09:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Apart from the overall sharpness issue that is no sky for QI, sorry Poco a poco 21:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Running total: 5 support (excluding the nominator), 8 oppose → Decline?   --Crep171166 09:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Riga_Landmarks_98.jpg

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  • Nomination Riga Castle from opposite embankment of Daugava River --Scotch Mist 05:55, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality. --Halavar 09:44, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. Too dark. --Augustgeyler 16:24, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality -- Johann Jaritz 05:09, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment a bit dark indeed. --Christian Ferrer 20:24, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment I tend to agree with August and Christian; I'd like to support, but the water looks too dark compared to the sky. Would you like to address that? -- Ikan Kekek 05:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment Have lightened foreground including river --Scotch Mist 15:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment I marked some artefacts (black „painted“ lines) which now exist – perhaps – due to your corrections. Otherwise there are still completely black areas in the trees.--Augustgeyler 20:14, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment Have reverted image to original and lightened --Scotch Mist 04:54, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Good enough quality for the rather large size. Ikan Kekek 06:23, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment I am wondering that nobody is seeing the very dark trees and that very high contrast. Perhaps it's a matter of taste or I am just completely wrong.--Augustgeyler 20:57, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment Exactly. I see them and give the photographer some latitude to make that choice. -- Ikan Kekek 05:08, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment Perhaps you are right.--Augustgeyler 07:28, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. I agree with all of you with the fact that the picture has quite a strong contrast and dark shadows (especially the black area in the foreground trees). If you have a raw file of this picture, you could try to raise just the shadows and/or the blacks in the tone curve to soften the contrast. I have seen the photo with screens of different types and this could be beneficial on some of them. --Lion-hearted85 (talk) 10:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment In fact, Scotch Mist, you tend to apply too much contrast in your processing, same applies here. In this case the image sharpness is IMHO just over the bar, but you need a better equipment as the compos of your images are really good and you travel a lot. Apart from some processing issues the main problem here is the camera...
  •  Comment @Lion-hearted85: Thank you for taking the time to provide informative comments which are appreciated! I find it interesting that while some of the photos I nominate admittedly challenge QI technical standards I have not opposed photos that IMHO I find relatively dull and uninteresting, and where perhaps the QI technical standards have also been challenging, but instead have still appreciated merits of photo subject\composition. Certainly my photos often tend to highlight specific features and natural colours, sometimes from odd perspectives, but as previously indicated by others the final balance is, and I believe should remain, a matter of individual preference and ‘artistic licence’ afforded the photographer. (If all QI photos were to reflect the apparent colour palettes seemingly preferred by some who oppose the images of others on apparently subjective bases I would respectively suggest that the overall range of photos assessed as QIs would seem rather limited in the eyes of more widely objective reviewers!:) --Scotch Mist 10:27, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Running total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promote?   --Ikan Kekek 06:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)