Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Ciri Cosplay (The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt) • 2.jpg
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/People
- Info Cosplay of Ciri who is one of the main characters of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. This cosplay was reviewed at least by Gamespot and Nerdist. Created by Makar Vinogradov (Flickr) - uploaded by Александр Мотин - nominated by Александр Мотин -- Александр Мотин (talk) 14:23, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support -- Александр Мотин (talk) 14:23, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Comment Good, but I think the photo is underexposed.--ArildV (talk) 14:38, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support Wow! Something new and fresh here, although this kind of photos have been around for years in the world outside FPC. Not a normal portrait, but a photo meant to capture a fictional character and the mood of a game/alternate world. I find the darkness in this very appropriate. --cart-Talk 15:14, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Yann (talk) 15:36, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support by cart, --Sputniktilt (talk) 18:20, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 18:55, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support High quality portrait. -- Colin (talk) 19:07, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support Daphne Lantier 20:51, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- weak Support for the wow factor - although most of that comes from the work the cosplayer did, not what the photographer did. I'm surprised at the shallow DoF leaving even the leather straps out of focus.--Peulle (talk) 21:11, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support Awesome and iconic. 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 21:39, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Question Is the game published under a free license? Daniel Case (talk) 01:16, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: The game is not, but at least this trailer on Youtube (with timing) has the image of the character and her costume and was posted by Bandai Namco under free license.--Александр Мотин (talk) 05:43, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Александр Мотин: I'm sorry but I don't see anything at the beginning or end of the video, or on the page, saying it was posted under a free license. Per COM:COSPLAY one needs to be involved. Daniel Case (talk) 06:10, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Check under the video using desktop web browser — «License Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)». I will add the template {{Costume}} to the image then. Hope that will be enough.--Александр Мотин (talk) 06:20, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- While the trailer may be published under CC-BY, that seems to apply only to that trailer. Checking at the game's website, under "Contacts & Legal" (which I can't seem to link to directly), it says "The Witcher game © CD PROJEKT S". That applies to all aspects of the game, including the appearance of characters and costumes. Daniel Case (talk) 16:45, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Cosplay images are considered to be lawfull according to this discussion Commons:Deletion requests/Images of costumes tagged as copyvios by AnimeFan.--Александр Мотин (talk) 20:57, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- While the trailer may be published under CC-BY, that seems to apply only to that trailer. Checking at the game's website, under "Contacts & Legal" (which I can't seem to link to directly), it says "The Witcher game © CD PROJEKT S". That applies to all aspects of the game, including the appearance of characters and costumes. Daniel Case (talk) 16:45, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Check under the video using desktop web browser — «License Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)». I will add the template {{Costume}} to the image then. Hope that will be enough.--Александр Мотин (talk) 06:20, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Александр Мотин: I'm sorry but I don't see anything at the beginning or end of the video, or on the page, saying it was posted under a free license. Per COM:COSPLAY one needs to be involved. Daniel Case (talk) 06:10, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
COM:COSPLAY and its statements are described as superseding that discussion. And although it doesn't come down strongly on my side of this, I honestly don't see any difference between someone cosplaying a character and a statue or action figure of that character. They are all derivative works of the same copyright. So I !vote ...
- Oppose ... because it's not a free image, and even if it were the top crop is not helpful. Daniel Case (talk) 01:52, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Daniel, cropping the top off the headshot is absolutely standard, and not a flaw. See this article and links. As for the copyright, if you feel strongly enough to oppose, then create a DR so it can be assessed by the community. -- Colin (talk) 17:22, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Colin: Thanks for the link; I can certainly see situations where you might crop the head. But perhaps since I'm as tall as I am, I get sensitive to this issue since I have so often bumped my head on things the midgets who run the world, at least the world of interior design and architecture , do not imagine any human being could possibly bump their heads on.
As for starting a deletion request, I would note that since there is an entire category devoted to this, it's not as simple as it sounds. It looks to me like all of those images are copyvio
However, I'm heading on up to Wikimania tomorrow, and given that there is often enough downtime between panels, events, get-togethers and random encounters with interesting people, i.e. all the things that make Wikimania great, where I find doing this sort of housekeeping work very relaxing and about up to where my state of mind is, perhaps I will take your suggestion and create that DR. And maybe the one for all the Christmas lighting displays from countries without FoP/with insufficient FoP, and the ones of Cloud Gate, all of which cannot be free images, which I have talked about initiating in the past. Daniel Case (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Colin: Thanks for the link; I can certainly see situations where you might crop the head. But perhaps since I'm as tall as I am, I get sensitive to this issue since I have so often bumped my head on things the midgets who run the world, at least the world of interior design and architecture , do not imagine any human being could possibly bump their heads on.
- Support - Very nice! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:49, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Good portrait but like Arild I think it´s underexposed and a FP has to be technically perfect.--Ermell (talk) 07:03, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Looking at screenshots from the game and this video, it looks like this is deliberate. Maybe a third of the Ciri screenshots I see on Google are a little underexposed. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:31, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support Per cart Jacopo Werther iγ∂ψ=mψ 18:43, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support Unusual --The Photographer 22:43, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support I've left relevant commentary here. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:17, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Uoaei1 (talk) 08:56, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Support -- Wolf im Wald 13:10, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Comment I have a suggestion for the people who are concerned about the copyright issue: let's vote on the actual image here in FPC, and if you have concerns about the copyright, nominate the image for deletion and take that discussion there. Then we can stick to the issue of judging the image quality here in FPC.--Peulle (talk) 14:51, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I'm the only one who has seemed to notice that we do have this policy. I !voted oppose because an image that is not free cannot be on Commons, much less be an FP. This forum addresses only the latter issue. As I said in my response above, I see that I may have the opportunity to create the deletion request for the entire category this coming weekend, so I will attend to that from Montreal (I hope). Daniel Case (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Sorry per Daniel --LivioAndronico (talk) 21:24, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Agree with Daniel Case. This shouldn't even be on Commons. HalfGig talk 23:46, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
- Question - I haven't voted on this photo, but let me ask you all: If someone intentionally posed to look like Superman, Batman, Spiderman or Ronald McDonald, would you consider all of those poses not to be violations of copyright? Supposing, for example, someone posed in a cape that looked just like Superman's cape, down to the big "S", would you then argue that a letter isn't copyrightable? I find it hard to understand why this is a usable image at all in terms of a common-sense approach to copyright. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:06, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Oppose I too agree with Daniel. The COSPLAY policy seems pretty clear to me. PumpkinSky talk 16:52, 11 August 2017 (UTC)-- invalid double vote per Special:Permalink/285160421#Administrator_User:PumpkinSky_has_engaged_in_sockpuppetry -- Colin (talk) 14:48, 4 February 2018 (UTC)- There is no copyright issue here. And if there was one, open a DR, don't do votes unrelated to the image value. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:37, 16 August 2017 (UTC)