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File:BCh DMU DRB1-04 head car (19720997798).jpg

На какой станции находится поезд. Варианты ответов:

  1. Осиповичи-I
  2. Осиповичи-II
  3. Осиповичи-III

Вадзім Медзяноўскі (talk) 15:41, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Судя по спутниковым координатам в файле — на 1-й. Xenotron (talk) 15:45, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

File:Шахі ДДБ1.jpg

Не нравится -- снимай сам. Вадзім Медзяноўскі (talk) 11:04, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Да, не нравится, и главное — эта фотка для вики имеет нулевую ценность. Кроме поезда ни одного идентифицируемого объекта на фото нет, а поезд снят их рук вон плохо. Хорошие фотографий ДДБ1 на складе есть, а это — откровенный шлак с диким завалом горизонта и только частью поезда, не говоря уже о шумах и крайне низкой чёткости и формате. Чем грузить подобного рода "фотографии" снятые на какой-то древний калькулятор с диким завалом горизонта, если они не содержат что-то действительно уникального, при том что есть намного лучшие аналоги, лучше вообще не грузить. Xenotron (talk) 19:23, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Category:Train stations in Mahilioŭ Region

Не следует путать области с отделениями железной дороги. Станция Солигорск относится к могилёвскому отделению Белорусской железной дороги, но к Минской области. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Вадзім Медзяноўскі (talk • contribs) 06:56, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Ок, поправил, теперь она в Минской области Xenotron (talk) 07:01, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

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Vinnytsya trams

Hello. It come to my attention, through my watchlist, that you have been working at renaming "Vinnytsya trams" to "Trams in Vinnytsya". I presume that you are doing it within a wider categorization work on this subject, aiming to document precisely each photo of Vinnytsya trams concerning all possible criteria (akin to what I have been doing with Lisbon trams). I will be monotorizing these files and subcats to witness the progress of your categorization work.

I invite you to join the discussion on the relative merits of naming this kind of categories "Trams in Cityname" versus "Cityname trams". As you can witness, I prefer the latter, but I refuse to accept as an argument for either solution the sheer number of categories using one or the other name form: Any categories newly created (or improved) by me will use the name form I prefer, but I will not resort to wholesale renaming in order to force a consensus. I will be awaiting your input at the said talk page.

(It may happen that you are renaming "Vinnytsya trams" to "Trams in Vinnytsya" not because you have a novel point of view on the matter of tram category names nor because you are working hard at categorizing Vinnytsya trams, but just for the sake of mindless “homogenization” and maybe trawling for editcount hits. In which case I’ll just undo your renamings at a later time.)

-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 23:21, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

  • Unifying is good only if the unifying principle is sound. Please note that an often argument is along the lines of «Well, yes, "Cityname trams" may be better than "Trams in Cityname" but there’s no many of them it’s a hassle to rename them all». You’re unwitingly adding to this by renaming in this manner. Please read the the mentioned discussion and add there if you have questions or additional arguments either way. Please note that the sought harmonization is for all tram categories everywhere, not for all vehicles in Ukraine (or everywhere), as different vehicles have different categorization requirements. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 20:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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Просьба

Здравствуйте Xenotron. Вы можете тут, категории всех фотографий наладить? Cll 99 (talk) 12:40, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Могу. Но судя по названию этой категории смысл оставлять есть только те фото, где присутствует сам Ильхам Алиев — все остальные фото на которых президента нет нужно распределить только по подкатегориям Бакинского метро, включая поезда и станции — Xenotron (talk) 12:49, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Разница между 2 категориями

Не очень понимаю разницу между категориями Category:81-717/714 passenger interior и Category:81-717/714 interiors in Moscow Metro. С моей точки зрения, первая категория включает вторую (то есть, вторая — более узкоспециализированная, только по московскому метро). Тогда в чём смысл первой категории? Она, по идее, должна быть, надкатегорией второй категории. Сможете объяснить? :) В качестве примера файла взял File:Поезд «Великие полководцы», Константин Рокоссовский.jpg. --Brateevsky {talk} 15:12, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Не совсем так, салон включает не только собственно салон для пассажиров, но и кабину машиниста. Я просто сделал категоризацию по двум критериям — подвиду интерьера и месту съёмки. Первую категорию я создал чтобы чётко разделить интерьер в целом на пассажирский салон и кабину по аналогии с тем как у локомотивов интерьер разделён на кабину и машинное отделение, и чтобы в них для удобства просмотра были собраны все возможные варианты вне зависимости от метрополитена.
А категории по локациям могут включать как пассажирский салон так и кабину машиниста и служат для того чтобы фото с одной стороны можно было связывать с метрополитеном или линией а с другой чтоб фото салона были отдельно от фото самих поездов. Делить же например фото кабины по метрополитенам имхо будет излишне, а что касается пассажирского салона возможно при большом количестве это может иметь смысл но помимо того тогда фото кабины снятые в этом метро надо либо помещать в подкатегорию "кабины поезда серии 81-XXX в метро города-N" либо оставлять висеть уровнем выше, поэтому чтоб не делать чрезмерную категоризацию и по виду салона и по локации одновременно я избрал параллельный вариант.
Просто конкретно у "номерных" сделано очень много фотографий салона при считанных единицах лицензионно-свободных фотографий кабины машиниста. А вот например у музейных метровагонов вроде типа А или новых часто освещаемых в СМИ вроде 81-765 "Москва" фото кабины очень много, и разделение по двум критериям позволяет отобрать в один ряд чисто все фото кабин или салона для удобства навигации не создавая излишних разделений по месту съёмки, а с другой сделать привязку фото к поездам эксплуатируемым в конкретном метрополитене (в данных примерах — Москва и Баку). В целом же у поездов у некоторых зарубежных категорий может существовать ещё более сложная градация видов категорий — по модификациям, по номерам, по оператору, по стране, по линии, по окраске и т.п., у нас же это применяется пока лишь отчасти для некоторых серий. Xenotron (talk) 19:10, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Спасибо, вроде разобрался. :) Но я думаю, будущее всё же за более узкими категориями, хотя и эти не пропадут. --Brateevsky {talk} 08:12, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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