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Hello, Tegzes!
Tip: Add categories to your files
Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

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1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

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This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

-- ato (talk) 18:11, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Kedves "Szerkesztőtárs"! (Elnézést, ha rossz megszólítást használtam.)
Az általam feltett fényképek 84 esztendősek, már közkincsnek tekinthetőek.
Úgy vélem, szabadon felhasználhatók.
Tegzes Tegzes (talk) 17:39, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Derkovits[edit]

Javaslom, nézzél meg néhány korábbi képet a Derkovits-kategóriaban, akár szerkesztési módban is, hogy lásd, hogyan kell kitölteni a leírólapot, és az alábbiakat minél hamarabb felejtsd el:

  • A forrásnál az olya megjelölést, hogy URL alapú. Pontos linkmegadás kell, amely a fájlra mutat. Ha a képet könyvből újságból szerezted, akkor természetesen a könyv, újság adatainak pontos megadása.
  • Dátumnál ezt a január 1. megjelölést. Ha az évnél pontosabban nem adható meg az adat, akkor csak az évszám kerül be. Nem mindent január 1-én készítenek vagy publikálnak. A Szilassy-képekre kitérve olyant meg soha ne csinálj, hogy más dátumot adsz meg. Pl. 1943-as filmnél 1940-et.
  • A licenc szövegét fontod értelmezni. Ezért javaslom megnézni a korábbi képeket. Derkovits nem helyezhette a képeit szabad licenc alá. Az ő festményeire a Pd-old licenc való.

Egyelőre ennyi. Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 10:12, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Közkincsről általában[edit]

Az, hogy valami mikor jelent meg, még ha akár 80 éve is, csak akkor releváns, ha nem ismert a szerző. Ha nem ismert, akkor a mű az első megjelenéstől számítva 70+1 év után lesz közkincs. A magyar jogszabályok szerint. A Commonson (azaz itt) viszont az URAA szabályait is figyelembe kell venni, azaz azt, hogy a feltöltött kép Amerikában is közkincsnek minősül-e már. Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 10:35, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kedves Hungarikusz Firkász!
Nagyon szépen köszönöm visszajelzésedet és tanácsaidat.
Soraidat olvasva elhatároztam, hogy soha többé nem töltök fel egy képet se a WikipédiaCommonsra, illetve Wikipédia-szócikkekre. (Volt olyan tervem, hogy pár híres festőnek, akiknek az életművét jól ismerem, csinálok majd galériákat (például Egry József és Batthány Gyula jött volna elsőként szóba), de ez sokkal komplikáltabb, mint hittem volna. Korábban meg voltam döbbenve, hogy miért nincs valóságos kép-özön egyes jeles festőink szócikkeiben, de most már nem csodálkozom.)
De Derkovitsra térve, akinek a szócikkén és a képgalériáján már jó másfél hónapja dolgozom: írtam a Nemzeti Galériának egy levelet, ugyanis náluk van egy külön Reprodukciós Osztály, akik engedélyeket adnak az általuk készített műtárgy-fotók reprodukálására. Szerintem, ha ők visszaírnak, hogy engedélyt adnak az általam feltett képekre, akkor nem lehet jogi gubanc.
Mondom: új képet már soha többé nem akarok feltenni, csak a Derkovits-os képek ügyét szeretném megnyugtatóan rendezni, mert iszonyú sok munka van a kiválogatásukban, feltételükben. Nem dicsekvésként mondom, de a Derkovits-szócikket többen megdicsérték már. Igaz, már hosszú évek óta foglalkozom Derkovitscsal, úgyhogy néminemű tudás óhatatlanul ragadhatott rám.
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Ha megengeded, még pár "közös ügyünket" szóba hoznám:
Ha jól emlékszem, Ritoók Emmánál a másolmány problematikája merült fel. Azóta igyekeztem átfogalmazni a szöveget, úgy persze, hogy az megőrizze a forrásban leírtak lényegét. Pritz Pál, a Magyar Tudományos Akadémia doktora, a Ritoók Emma-memoár közreadója is olvasta az általam összehozott szöveget, s neki tetszett. Más tészta Sándor Kálmán ügye. Nála meg a forráshivatkozásokkal volt a baj. Azt is igyekeztem korrigálni. Szóval, mindaz, amit javasoltál, nem "pusztába kiáltott szó" volt számomra.
Azt nagyon sajnáltam, hogy a Passuth László-szócikkhez írt dolgaim globálban törölve lettek. Passuth László egyik-másik könyve nagy hatással volt rám, s a lányával, Passuth Krisztina művészettörténésszel is jó kapcsolatban vagyok. Passuth Krisztina is sajnálta, hogy nem kerülhetett föl az apjáról írt szöveg. Ám én mondtam neki, hogy legjobb tudásom szerint írtam meg, de sajnos nem ment át.
Végül Szilassy... Ott direkt tettem fel olyan képeket, amelyek Karádyval és Szeleczkyvel ábrázolták együtt, hogy látsszon, mekkora sztár volt egykoron. E fotók valójában nem filmkockák voltak, hanem ún. promóciós fotók.
De nem fárasztalak tovább.
Summa summárum: fotókkal soha többé nem kísérletezek, s szöveget se biztos, hogy írok ennyi kudarc után. Célom immár csak az, hogy az eddigi munkáim - leginkább is a két Derkovits-cikk - el legyen fogadva. Lehet ugyan, hogy technikai értelemben elvéreztem, de szerintem az azért föltétlenül elmondható rólam, hogy meglehetősen jól ismerem Derkovits életét/munkásságát.
Még egyszer köszönöm segítségedet: Tegzes Tegzes (talk) 12:54, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Abzeronow (talk) 15:35, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kedves Abzeronow!
Időközben a Szeleczky és Szilassy - az álompár fotó törölve lett a Szilassy László-szócikkből. Úgyhogy a probléma "orvosolva" lett.
Köszönöm jelzésedet: Tegzes Tegzes (talk) 15:50, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Most mit tegyek?
A jelzett képek mind 70 évvel ezelőtt meghalt személyek képei, tehát nyilvánvalóan jogtiszták.
Ha jól veszem ki, az a baj, hogy nem másoltam be, pontosan melyik honlapról szedtem le őket, mert azt hittem akkor, hogy egy általános megjelölés is elégséges.
Hol pótoljam a kívánt információt, annak érdekében, hogy a képek ne legyenek letörölve?
Tegzes Tegzes (talk) 20:30, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Időközben, még a határidőn belül az összes Derkovits-műnél megadtam mind a forrást, mind a licencet. (Egyedül a Dinnyeevőnél /magántulajdon/ nem leltem nyomát, hogy pontosan honnan származik, de akár így van ez, akár nem, az is közkincs.)
A Wikimédia Alapítvány hivatalos álláspontja szerint „kétdimenziós közkincs művek hű reprodukciói közkincsnek számítanak”.
Mindezekből következően az összes Derkovits-kép közkincsnek számít.
Kérem tehát a törölt Derkovits Gyula-képek mihamarabbi visszaállítását.
Köszönöm. Tegzes (talk) 15:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mivel folyamatosan rossz licenccel töltöd fel a képeket, ne lepődj meg, ha ezeket is törlésre fogják jelölni! Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 09:30, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kategória[edit]

Szerintem már szóltam miatta, de amikor a Venczel Vera-képeket illetően írtam, hogy tanulmányozd, miket javítottam, láthattad, a kategóriát is javítottam. Van egy olyan érzésem, hogy rá sem néztél a javított képekre, ezért most újra szólok:

A Commonson nem magyar nyelvű kategóriákat adunk meg, és nem kategorizálunk olyanokat, hogy Híres ember fotója, Festmény a macskáról (utóbbi fiktiv példa).

Ha egy emberről készült fotót töltesz fel, a kategória neve a személy neve. Csemegi Károlynál pl. Károly Csemegi, Venczel Veránál Vera Venczel, stb. Akkor is ha nincs még kategóriájuk létrehozva. Ha van, akkor még pláne, mert igy kerülnek az egy személyhez (vagy adott témához) tartozó képek a közös, megfelelő helyükre. Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 12:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kedves Hungarikusz Firkász!
Köszönöm tájékoztatásod.
Nem gondoltam volna, ha kategória neve részbe a személy nevét kell beírni, ráadásul fordítva. De most már ezt is tudom. (Az ember azt hinné, hogy a kategória valami összefogó fogalom, pl. csendéletek, történelmi festmények, állatábrázolások, vallásos képek.)
Tegzes Tegzes (talk) 20:22, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neked tényleg ilyen nehéz a felfogásod vagy szándékosan csinálod rosszul a kategorizálást? Lassan tucatszor kell javítanom utánad a hibásan megadott Robert, Bereny kategóriát a megfelelő Róbert Berény kategóriára. Ha tényleg olyan sok iskolát végeztél, mint állítod, akkor sajnos csak azt lehet hinni, hogy szándékosan csinálod, az viszont trollkodás. Még ha nem is mondtam volna el, akkor is fel kellett volna tűnnie, hogy a megadott kategória piros, míg a meglévő kék, és ott van a többi kép is. Néha nézdd már meg, hogy miket csinálsz és rájössz, hogy nem vagy te olyan jó, mint azt hiszed magadról! Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 09:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pallerti (talk) 19:06, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kedves Pallerti!
Nem érkezett még be Csillag Péternek, Molnár C. Pál unokájának, s egyben a Molnár C. Pál Múzeum fenntartójának, azaz a jogtulajdonosnak a felhasználási engedélye a szóban forgó 13 képre?
Én úgy tudom, elküldte a permission-osokhoz. Tegzes (talk) 15:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kedves Pallerti!
A mai napon Csillag Péter, Molnár C. Pál unokája (jogtulajdonos) értesített, hogy 16 db. Molnár C. Pál-kép vonatkozásában felhasználási engedélyt adott a Wikimedia Commonsnak.
Kérném tehát, hogy a Molnár C. Pál életművéből való válogatást ne töröljék!
Köszönettel: Tegzes (talk) 09:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 09:41, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Szerintem a szóban forgó fotó, amely az 1879-ben született E. M. Forstert kb. 20 éves korában ábrázolja (vagyis cirka 1900-ban készült), biztos, hogy jogtiszta. A fotós nyilvánvalóan ismeretlen, hisz ránéztem 4 helyre is, ahol e képet közölték, s egy helyen sincsen leközölve a neve.
Tehát induljunk ki abból, hogy a fotós ismeretlen. Ez esetben a szerzői jogokról szóló 1999. évi LXXVI. törvény, azaz Szjt. 31. § (3) bekezdése lesz irányadó:
Szjt. 31. §
(3) Ha a szerző személye nem állapítható meg, a védelmi idő a mű első nyilvánosságra hozatalát követő év első napjától számított hetven év.
Szóval az 1900-as készítésű fotó, amit nyilván a készítéssel párhuzamosan nyilvánosságra hoztak, egyértelmű, hogy már nem jogvédett.
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Ugyanakkor ránézek majd a feltételnél megadott adatokra, mert lehet, hogy tévedtem és szerzőként E. M. Forstert adtam meg, nem a fotóst. Amennyiben a jogtulajdonos megjelölése téves, természetesen korrigálom.
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Javasolom, hogy gondold át, mennyire méltányos az, ha a Wikipédia 2024-ben(!?!) egy kvalitásos, a férfiaktól semmiben sem elmaradó tehetségű női alkotót (Dora Carrington) nem szerepeltet egy olyan szócikkben, ahol minden további nélkül szerepelhetne.
Javasolom tehát, hogy ne töröld a Dora Carrington-festményt. Ha nem tetszik neked az a hely, ahova én tettem, ám tedd máshova, de ne töröld. Nem igaz, hogy ne lehetne "népszerűsíteni" egy nőt, ha csakugyan kimagaslót alkot. (Nem vagyok a híve a kvótáknak, hogy egy nőt csak azért "nyomjanak", mert nő. De ha fölveszi a versenyt akármelyik férfival...?) Megjegyzés: Dora Carrington 1932-ben meghalt, tehát jogi akadálya nincs annak, hogy fölkerüljön a szócikkbe.
Egyébként nekem a szócikkben eredetileg benn lévő másik, E. M. Forsterről készült festmény is tetszik. De ha a "végzet hatalma", hogy mindenáron törölni kell, ugyan mit tehetek? (A festője: Roger Fry 1934-ben hunyt el, tehát jogi akadály az ő esetében se lenne, hogy fönn legyen.) Tegzes (talk) 10:55, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Megpróbálok egy utolsó esélyt adni neked, hátha ezúttal értelmesen tudsz reagálni, bár gyanítom, alkatilag nem vagy képes erre.

Először is javaslom, próbáld már kicsit értelmezni, amit neked írnak, hidd el nem halsz bele. Megértem, hogy olyan világban élsz, ahol mindenki egyetért veled, vagy legalábbis nem mernek neked ellentmondani, de a Wikipédia nem ilyen. Vagy megszoksz vagy megszöksz. Most például teljesen feleslegesen jártál utána a dolgoknak, mert csak annyit kellett volna csinálnod, hogy a megfelelő licenccel töltöd fel a képet vagy javítod. Egyszerű ésszel fel lehet fogni, hogy nem lehet Cc-by-sa licencű kép, mivel nem helyezte senki ilyen licenc alá. Ergo ez a licenc erre a képre rossz. Ha ismeretlen a szerző, akkor PD-Old a kép (Template:PD-old-assumed). De neked valamiért derogál odafigyelni arra, amit mások mondanak.

Másodszor javaslom, hogy a tévképzeteidet tartsd meg magadnak, és ne próbáld meg másokra vetíteni azokat. Senki nem mondott olyant, hogy a festmény nem lehet a szócikkben, senki nem mondott olyant, hogy női kéz által készített mű nem szerepelhet szócikkben. Úgyhogy az ilyen bizonyítatlan és bizonyíthatatlan megállapításaidat (mint a szexizmus, női elnyomás, rasszizmus, stb.) igyekezz megtartani magadnak, és próbálj meg elszakadni attól a kommunikációs formulától, hogy nem létező megállapításokat tulajdonítasz másoknak. Lehet, hogy ez politikai körökben elmegy az ilyesfajta szalmabáb érvelés, árnyékbox, a különböző bizonyíthatatlan állítások felhozatala, sárdobálás, mocsokolódás, jogi fenyegetőzés, itt nem. Nem ártana visszavenni az egódból, és akkor talán még normalizálhatnád a helyzetedet. Ez csak rajtad áll. Jelenleg ugyanis nagyon kifelé áll a rudad. Hidd el, nekem egyáltalán nem hiányoznál , sőt. Ennek fényében talán nem ártana megfontolnod, hogy előző mondatom ellenére mégis olyan, segítő tanácsokkal látlak el, amellyel képes lehetsz beilleszkedni.

Adok még néhányat. Rajtad áll, kamatoztatod-e vagy ezek ellen is csak lázadozni fogsz:

  • Nem írunk a képleírásba fals dátumokat!
  • A kategóriákat normálisan adjuk meg! Ha valakinek már van kategóriája, akkor azt adjuk meg, nem a saját kútfőnk alapján teszünk be. Érdemes megnézni, hogy más, azonos személyhez kapcsolódó kategóriákat már hova tettek be, és oda kell betenni a frissen feltöltöttet. Személyek kategóriájánál nem használunk vesszőt. Tehát nem Robert, Bereny hanem Róbert Berény, és igen, ékezetekkel.

Ez volt az utolsó, hogy megpróbáltam neked segíteni, hogy megpróbáltalak a megfelelő irányba terelni. Ha továbbra sem változtatsz a tevékenységeiden, úgy érzem, nem sokáig leszel már köreinkben. Fontold meg! Csak rajtad áll. Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 11:27, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vajon milyen dátumot írjak be olyankor, mikor senki se tudja, az adott mű mikor készült? (A kitöltendő formanyomtatvány csak akkor enged tovább, ha mind az évet, mind a hónapot, mind a napot megadom!)
Tegnap voltam a Scrutonban egy Renoirról szóló előadáson. Ott elhangzott, hogy Renoir 4000 festményt festett életében. Nem vezetett nyilvántartást arról, hogy mit mikor festett, s a legtöbb művének címet sem adott, hanem az utókor nevezte el őket a vásznon látható alakok/tárgyak alapján...
A napokban beszéltem a Molnár C. Pál unokájával, Csillag Péterrel, aki engedélyezte 16 Molnár C. Pál-kép feltöltését a Wikimedia Commonsba, illetőleg a Wikipédiába. Neki is jeleztem, ki kéne pontosan tölteni, hogy a nagyapja mikor festett egy-egy képet. Mondta, hogy fogalma sincs. Molnár C. Pál extrémen termékeny szerző volt, viszont alig két-három olyan festménye van csak, amelynél tudható lenne, melyik évben festette.
Kérlek mondd hát meg, hogy töltsem ki a dátumot ilyen esetben? (Printben ilyenkor azt szokták írni: é.n. Vagyis: év nélkül. Itt viszont ilyet "nem vesz be" a kitöltendő formanyomtatvány.) Tegzes (talk) 14:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sajnálom, hogy ennyire értetlen vagy , de akkor megint elmondom, hátha megérted (csak ha már ennyire nehezen fogod fel a dolgokat, legalább ne sértődnél meg ha erre rámutatnak, miközben előadod, hogy te milyen tanult ember vagy): használd ezt a feltöltési rendszert, itt nyugodtan kihagyhatod a dátumot.

Vagy, de már ezt is mondtam: feltöltés után nyisd meg szerkesztésre a fájlt és töröld a fals adatokat! Beírható, hogy unknown, vagy év nélkül, vagy ismeretlen.

Így már megérted végre, hogy mit és miképpen kell csinálni, vagy le kell írni még egyszer? Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 15:07, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nem akarok más feltöltési rendszert használni, amikor a jelenleg használtat már kezdem kiismerni. Tehát azt teszem majd, hogy kitöltöm a fals dátumot, majd ha kész a cucc, megnyitom szerkesztésre és törlöm.
Most egyébként ki is fogom próbálni, mert föltöltök még egy rajzot E. M. Forsterről.
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Más: Tegnap felhívtak Molnár C. Pál unokájáék, s közölték, hogy 16 képre adtak engedélyt. Én e képeket pár napja föltöltöttem a Commonsra, de mind egy szálig törölve lettek, jóllehet a Molnár C. Pál-szócikk vitalapján jeleztem, hogy napokon belül érkezik az engedély.
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Ugyancsak más: A Derkovitsos törlésre jelölt képeket még a határidő lejárta előtt javítottam mind a forrás, mind a licenc vonatkozásában, mégis törölve lettek. (Ez is furcsa nekem. Olyan, mintha az ügyfél számára megadott fellebbezési határidő lejárta előtt a közigazgatás máris elutasítana egy kérelmet?! Lenne nagy ajvékolás.) Tegzes (talk) 15:30, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Más: Tegnap felhívtak Molnár C. Pál unokájáék, s közölték, hogy 16 képre adtak engedélyt. Én e képeket pár napja föltöltöttem a Commonsra, de mind egy szálig törölve lettek, jóllehet a Molnár C. Pál-szócikk vitalapján jeleztem, hogy napokon belül érkezik az engedély." -- És azt a Commonsban dolgozó szerkesztőknek honnan kellett volna tudniuk, hogy te mit jeleztél, vagy mit nem? Nem kötelesek a huwikire járkálni vitalapokat olvasgatni. A feltöltött képeken jelezted, hogy engedélyezésre várnak a képek? Ha nem, akkor ne lepődj meg azon, hogy törölve lettek. Amúgy ha ténylegesen van beküldött engedély, akkor a kezelők ezt vagy jelzik az adminisztrátoroknak, akik helyreállítják a képeket, vagy önmaguk teszik ezt meg, amennyiben van adminisztrátori jogosultságuk.
    • "Ugyancsak más: A Derkovitsos törlésre jelölt képeket még a határidő lejárta előtt javítottam mind a forrás, mind a licenc vonatkozásában, mégis törölve lettek. (Ez is furcsa nekem. Olyan, mintha az ügyfél számára megadott fellebbezési határidő lejárta előtt a közigazgatás máris elutasítana egy kérelmet?! Lenne nagy ajvékolás.)" - Egyszer és mindenkorra hanyagold az ilyen hasonlatokat. Ez itt nem közigazgatás, nem úgy működnek a dolgok, ahogyan azt te elképzeled. Vagy tanuld meg, hogy működnek a dolgok, vagy ne rinyálj! A képek helyreállítást kérni lehet, ha indokolatlanul lettek törölve. Vagy a törlést végző szerkesztőnél, vagy az undelete oldalon. Egyébként a mellékneveket kisbetűvel írjuk. Csak halkan jegyzem meg ezt az alapvető helyesírási szabályt, mivel kiválóan végeztél az egyetemen, és neked remek az iráskészséged. Tehát nem Derkovitsos, hanem derkovitsos (ahogy nem Inboxos, hanem infoboxos). Csak azért szólok, mert következetesen nagy kezdőbetűvel írod a mellékneveket. Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 15:44, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mondtam: ne töltsd fel újra a képeket, hanem várd meg amíg helyreállítják azokat! Ennyit sem tudsz megérteni, vagy szándékosan csinálod a zavarkeltést? Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 18:53, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nem szándékosan csinálom a zavarkeltést.
Csak azt látom, hogy:
1) határidő előtt lettek törölve a képek, ezért van velük sokkal több meló, mint kéne;
2) úgy látom, még nem lett helyreállítva semmi, a lyukak ott vannak továbbra is a jegyzékben. Ezért gondoltam, hogy munkához látok.
De én örülnék a legjobban, ha csakugyan helyre lennének állítva az egyébként 100 %-osan jogtiszta képek. Tegzes (talk) 19:13, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Nem lettek határidő előtt törölve a képek.
  2. Helyre lesznek állítva. De az újabb feltöltésekkel több problémát okoz, mint amennyit megoldasz. Várj türelemmel! Itt senki sem a beosztottad vagy a csicskásod, hogy azonnal ugorljon, ahogyan azt te kigondolod.
  3. A protokol az, hogy a helyreállítható képeket az adminisztrátorok helyreállítják. Tudom, hogy téged nem sok minden érdekel a körülötted lévő dolgokból, de legalább ezt az egy dolgot értsd meg és vedd figyelembe. Itt a Commonsban hamarabb eltiltanak a szerkesztéstől, ha problémákat csinálsz, mint a huwikin. Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 19:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+1: Bizonyítsd be, hogy nem szándékosan csinálod a zavarkeltést, és ne tölds fel a törölt képeket újra. Ez egy nagyon jó lehetőség arra, hog bizonyíts egy kis jószándékot. Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 19:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ráadásul csak Regasteriosnak írtál, aki nem biztos, hogy perpillanat ráér. Megmondtam, hova írhatsz még, ha égbekiálltóan sűrgős a helyreállítás. Ha oda nem akarsz írni, akkor legyél már egy kicsit türelmesebb, nem biztos, hogy Regasterios tud vagy akar az első füttyödre ideugrani. Ami mondjuk érthető is. Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 19:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did not put the images under deletion process again, but put the "Wrong licence" template on it, so more experienced users can investigate them further. JSoos (talk) 22:55, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kedves Regasterios!
- Az 1999. évi LXXVI. törvény a szerzői jogról (Szjt.) 31. §-ának (1) bekezdése kimondja, hogy a szerzői jogok a szerző életében és halálától számított hetven éven át részesülnek védelemben. Az Szjt 31. §-ának (2) bekezdése pedig úgy rendelkezik, hogy a hetvenéves védelmi időt a szerző halálát követő év első napjától kell számítani.
E törvényi rendelkezésekre tekintettel nem egészen értem, mi a baj a Dési Huber István-kép föltöltésével. Dési Huber István 1944. február 25-én hunyt el, azaz csaknem 80 éve.
A Berény Róbert-képek törlésre jelölését sem tartom indokoltnak, hiszen Berény 1953. szeptember 10-én halt meg, azaz 2024. január 1-jétől fogva a művei már nem részesülnek szerzői jogi védelemben.
- Az E. M. Forstert ábrázoló tollrajznak nem megyek utána. A szócikkben máshogy alakult a képanyag, mint ahogy én terveztem volna, úgyhogy ha törlik, ha nem, úgyis kikerült volna az illusztrációk közül. Tegzes (talk) 12:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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A Kittenberger Kálmán Növény- és Vadaspark, avagy másik, gyakrabban használt nevén a Veszprémi Állatkert a tegnapi napon engedélyt adott a Böbe majom fest (1967) és a Böbe majom kanállal eszik egy lábosból című fotók föltöltésére.
Engedélyüket a megkívánt formanyomtatványon eljuttatták a permission-hu@wikimedia.org-ra.
Ennélfogva a két, a jogtulajdonos használati engedélyével ellátott fotó jogszerűen szerepeltethető a Wikipédián. (Az állatkerttel való megbeszélésünk alapján a két fotó nemcsak a Böbe majom-szócikket illusztrálná, hanem a fotók egyike a Kittenberger Kálmán Növény- és Vadaspark-szócikkbe is bekerülne.) Tegzes (talk) 18:03, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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