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Yours sincerely, Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:27, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Magog the Ogre. Thanks for reminding me. License just got lost in a copy-paste from a similar upload. It is fixed now. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 06:30, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

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File:Harald Jerichau, Landskabsparti fra Rom, Villa dei Quintili ved Via Appia, 1870, 0205NMK, Nivaagaards Malerisamling.jpg

Hej Ebbe, Er denne fil File:Harald Jerichau, Landskabsparti fra Rom, Villa dei Quintili ved Via Appia, 1870, 0205NMK, Nivaagaards Malerisamling.jpg kategoriseret rigtigt, tænker på om denne Category:Villa dei Quintili (Rome) er rigtigt. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 10:40, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Umiddelbart ser det da fornuftigt ud. De karakteristiske kassetter i midten af billedet har jeg ikke kunnet genfinde på andre illustrationer, så det er svært at henvise til en bestemt bygning i komplekset. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 11:12, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Tak! --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 11:48, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Upload af billeder fra Nivaagaards Malerisamling

Hej Ebbe, jeg vil bede dig give din uforbeholdne mening om den måde jeg er kommet frem til at bruge "template:artwork" på og de til hørende wikidata. Har du forslag til forbedringer så lad mig høre. tjek feks.: File:Harald Foss, Summer morning, 1873, 0081NMK, Nivaagaards Malerisamling.jpg og File:Jens Adolf Jerichau, Kopi efter Rafael, Skolen i Athen, 1912, 0192NMK, Nivaagaards Malerisamling.jpg i kategorien Category:Nivaagaards Malerisamling, Nivaa, Denmark.

Nivaagaards Malerisamling udmærker sig med CC0 licens og fremragende billeder, kilden til billeder er her: http://www.nivaagaard.dk/samling/

med venlig hilsen --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 18:02, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Det er en rigtig fin måde at beskrive kunstværket på. Jeg har skamløst lånt fra den i blandt andet File:Anton Melbye - Stille aften på Københavns Red - 1847.jpg. Med den valgte form havner værket i den skjulte kategori Category:Objects with inscriptions (language unspecified). Commons anbefaler, at ved værker, hvor signaturen kun består af navn og dato, bruges koden "language=~" i skabelonen inscription. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 11:13, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Ebbe - jeg er ikke helt med på hvad du mener. File:Janus la Cour, Slottet Chillon ved Genfersøen, 1876, 0074NMK, Nivaagaards malerisamling.jpg er det sådan du mener? --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Ja, "Language" er på plads og giver ingen advarsler. Jeg har lige rettet "type" til type=signature / date, så det også forstås af skabelonen. Det er det sædvanlige med EDB: Hvis man sætter så meget som et komma forkert, får man bare besked om, at det man har lavet er ubrugeligt. Håber i øvrigt du trives. Hils også kollegerne i Aarhus - jeg savner vores møder. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 19:36, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Måske sidste om artwork: Hvordan markeres date, når maleriet er uden datering? Se evt. File:Albert Küchler, Fru Marie Lehmann (1821-1849), f. Puggaard, som italienerinde med tamburin, uden datering, 0089NMK, Nivaagaards Malerisamling.jpg. Jeg hilser hele holdet på onsdag. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:59, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Hvis man ikke aner noget om dateringen - for eksempel ved en ukendt kunstner - kan man bruge {{other date|?}}. I det aktuelle tilfælde har jeg indsat {{other date|between|1830|1850}}. Det er tidsrummet mellem Küchlers ankomst til Italien og fru Lehmanns død. Det korrekte årstal er formentlig 1842-43, men det kan ikke dokumenteres. Hav et godt møde på onsdag. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 07:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Tak - de to forslag havde jeg set, men tænkte der sikkert var noget andet at bruge. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 08:04, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Har du set denne redigering - brug af wikidata til titel: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Jacob_van_Ruisdael_-_Sandskraent_1647.jpg&diff=next&oldid=281660568 --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 07:57, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Ja, det er en smart måde at bruge wikidata på. Den kendte jeg ikke. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 09:25, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Et tip søges

Hej Rsteen, det er en fornem indsats, du lægger for dagen med at uploade billeder af malerier fra Bruun Rasmussens auktioner. Jeg er ikke helt så teknisk ferm, men vil også gerne bidrage, så kan du fortælle mig, hvordan du bærer dig ad med at finde .png-filer frem i høj opløsning? Jeg har nemlig via kildekoden kun kunnet grave mig frem til en .jpg-fil i lav opløsning. Mvh. --Urbandweller (talk) 16:36, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Hej Urbandweller. Tak for de pæne ord. Der er i høj grad brug for flere hænder til disse uploads, for billederne forsvinder løbende efter nogle få uger, og er fordømt svære at finde igen. På min brugerside ligger et link til Handling of zoomable images og der ligger det værktøj, du skal bruge. Det hedder dezoomify v2 og er beregnet til at fange billeder, der kan zoomes, sådan som Bruun Rasmussen bruger det. Selve værktøjet er bare et inputfelt til en webadresse - alt arbejdet foregår bagved. Her er opskriften:

• Find et billede, der kan zoomes.
• I Firefoxs menu øverst til højre markerer du "Webudvikler".
• Under Webudvikler klikker du på punktet "Netværk"
• Den nederste tredjedel af skærmen skifter indhold, og der skal du arbejde.
• Marker, at du vil se "JS" filer (feltet skal lyse blåt), og tryk eventuelt på linjen for "Genindlæs".
• Der kommer filer frem, og en af dem hedder "info.json"
• Når du markerer "info.json", står der i højre side under "Request-url" en netadresse, og den kopierer du.
• Du åbner dezoomify v2 og sætter netadressen ind og trykker enter.
• Dezoomify går i gang med at stykke billedet sammen.
• Du højreklikker på billedet og gemmer det.
• Du har nu et fint billede i png-format, parat til Commons.

Det vil nok virke lidt bøvlet de første gange, men da du jo er erfaren bruger her i foreningen, vil det hurtigt komme til at ligge i fingrene på dig - og resultatet er umagen værd. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Tusind tak! Det virkede perfekt - blot måtte jeg over på XHR for at finde info.json. Jeg holder mig lidt orienteret om dine uploads, så jeg ikke kommer til at lave dobbeltarbejde. Sig endelig til, hvis du har nogle billeder i støbeskeen, som jeg i så fald ikke behøver at fokusere på. Venligst --Urbandweller (talk) 19:57, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Hej igen Urbandweller. Dejligt at høre, at det virker. Koordinering er en fin ide. Hidtil har jeg taget alt, hvad jeg kunne få tid til, men min hu står til billeder med skibe og til motiver fra Italien, så hvis du går uden om dem, skal det nok fungere. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 20:12, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Tak - jeg har uploadet Viggo Johansens søstykke Skyerne samler sig over det stille vand som test, men går uden om Italien og marinemalerier fremover. Venlig hilsen --Urbandweller (talk) 21:36, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Jeg har prøvet din vejledning men kan ikke finde nogen fil med navnet "info.json" hverken under js eller XHR. Jeg har forsøgt flere gange sidst her https://bruun-rasmussen.dk/m/lots/A0BA61DD08F5?auction_day_id=1005489 kan du hjælpe? --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:25, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Men det virker her http://www.bruun-rasmussen.dk/search.do?mode=detail&iid=300463269&tg=classic hvad er mon årsagen? --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:29, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Jeg oplevede til at begynde med det samme, men klikkede så ind på selve "lærredet" og genindlæste siden. Så dukker der en info.json op under XHR og med domænet img.bruun-rasmussen.dk. --Urbandweller (talk) 21:32, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy og Urbandweller. Måske var vejledningen lidt for kompakt. Beklager. --Rsteen (talk) 21:36, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Jeg fik det til at virke se her File:Wilfred Glud Kunstnerkomsammen.png - tror det er afhængig af hvilken side det er fra. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:44, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Tror det kører nu - Urbandweller tip med at klikke på maleriet hjalp. TAK til jer begge. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:51, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy og Urbandweller. Lige et ekstra tip: Selv om Bruun Rasmussens folk generelt laver gode gengivelser af billederne, er de nogle gange lidt for hårde i beskæringerne. Det kan især betyde, at signaturer i bunden af billederne forsvinder, og det kan være lidt træls, når man faktisk henviser til dem i beskrivelsen. Løsningen er selvfølgelig at downloade versionen inklusive ramme, og så selv lave beskæringen i sit billedbehandlingsprogram. Det giver et ekstra trin i processen - men også et bedre resultat. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 15:53, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Tak endnu en gang - du har helt ret, for netop signaturen mangler i Viggo Johansens Skyerne samler sig over det stille vand, som er lidt hårdt beskåret. Jeg må se på det igen. Venligst --Urbandweller (talk) 19:35, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Nu har jeg eksperimenteret lidt med Viggo Johansens billede, men jeg arbejder i et helt ordinært billedbehandlingsprogram, og jeg er lidt bekymret for tab af data - min fil til erstatning af Bruun Rasmussens er 2-3 MB mindre - men der burde vel ikke være fare for kvalitetstab, når filtypen er PNG? Mvh. --Urbandweller (talk) 20:04, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Hej Urbandweller. Mener også, at PNG er "lossless", så det burde være i orden. Bruger selv det gratis Faststone Image Viewer, men en beskæring er vel en beskæring. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 20:15, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Jeg har lavet en ny af File:Wilfred Glud Kunstnerkomsammen.png og gemt dem i lossless jpg via mit PaintShopPro program File:Wilfred Glud Kunstnerkomsammen better crop.jpg - jeg ser ingen forskel udover at hele signaturen er med. Hvad mener i? Jeg kunne sagtens have gemt det i PNG eller TIF. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 20:28, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Flot fil. Jeg ved ikke en dyt om "lossless jpg". Den officielle holdning på Commons er - som du sikkert ved - at man anbefaler png frem for jpg, fordi jpg billederne taber opløsning, når de genbruges. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 20:55, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Ganske rigtigt hvis man bearbejder jpg og gemmer det taber det i kvalitet, okay jeg vil gemme png til brug her på Commons fremover. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk)

For dokumentationens skyld vil jeg i hvert fald fremover uploade Bruun Rasmussens originalfil af lærredet og så supplere med en tilpasset udgave, hvis der er behov for det (og det kan jeg se, at der ganske rigtigt ofte er). Commons gemmer jo begge versioner, så udenforstående heldigvis kan følge med i processen. --Urbandweller (talk) 21:58, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Danske malere

Var det ide om vi kunne lave et samarbejde om danske malere, jeg har lige ryddet op i Niels Simonsen kategori. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:01, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Deltager meget gerne, Villy. Har du nogle konkrete forslag til, hvordan det kan foregå? Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 21:27, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Også klart ja herfra, i hvert fald hvis det foregår på Commons. De igangværende pseudodiskussioner om ophavsret på Dansk Wikipedia, som vist mere handler om diskussion for diskussionens skyld, har mindsket min lyst til at bidrage der for tiden. Venligst --Urbandweller (talk) 22:01, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Jeg vil lave en side om danske malere, med en prioriteret liste over malere og en liste over arbejdsopgaver. Den offentliggør jeg når jeg er ved at være færdig (den kan altid justeres og finpudses også af jer). --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 07:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Jeg har lavet et udkast - som I gerne må rette i : User:Villy Fink Isaksen/Malerier af danske malere - oprydning --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 08:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Denne tråd er blevet vældig lang, så jeg har svaret på den side, du har oprettet. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 10:40, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Fejl i Dezoomify

Hej igen - jeg er i fuld sving med at uploade værker fra BR, men ca. hver anden gang sker der det mystiske, at Dezoomify forvansker lærredet, således at enten den nederste kant eller den højre kant af lærredet bliver digitalt "udtværet". Du kan se et eksempel på før og efter her: Viggo Johansen - Skyerne samler sig over det stille vand - 1889.

Nu er det ikke noget stort problem, for som du ganske rigtigt nævnte, kan vi beskære billederne bedre, end BR ofte gør det. Men i nogle få tilfælde - som her: Viggo Johansen: En større samling skitser fra bl. a. Skagen og Dragør, En skitsebog betegnet “Skagen” på forsiden samt Tre oliemalerier. (5). - løber jeg ind i problemer, for her optræder nogle lærreder uden rammer. De to af billederne har jeg uploadet, men billedet af en blomstervase i højformat (portrætformat) kan jeg ikke få Dezoomify til at levere uden at ødelægge både nederste og højre kant af lærredet. Kan du hjælpe og gerne uploade en fejlfri version af billedet, hvis du har tid? Mvh. --Urbandweller (talk) 18:55, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Hej Urbandweller. Har set dit indlæg her til morgen og får nøjagtigt det samme problem som du i Dezoomify. Fejlen må ligge i Bruun Rasmussens indkodning - og der er en genvej. Den er beskrevet i dokumentationen til Dezoomify her. I det konkrete tilfælde finder json.info en adresse, der indeholder nummer 1817 og 2626232. Via den kan du finde billedet som billede. Du får det oprindelige jpg billede i fuldt format (her 1879x2400) og kan gemme det som jpg (1.8 MB) og bagefter som png (11 MB). En anelse teknisk, men umagen værd. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 05:23, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Atter en gang tusind tak - det lykkedes perfekt. Så kan jeg løse problemet i fremtiden også. Mvh. --Urbandweller (talk) 19:12, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

NB: URAA - implikationer for ophavsretten

Forresten: For nylig opdagede jeg tilfældigt, at Category:Peder Mønsted var forsynet med en advarsel om ikke at lægge værker op af kunstneren, hvis disse er frembragt i 1923 eller senere. Det drejer sig åbenbart om en indviklet sag, hvor ophavsretten på visse værker, der ellers var public domain i USA, er blevet fornyet igen (se: Commons:URAA-restored copyrights. Kort fortalt betyder det, at sene værker af fx Peder Mønsted eller Axel Johansen (jf. File:Axel Johansen - Parti fra Frederiksholms Kanal med Monsunen liggende ved kaj - 1930.png) paradoksalt nok er public domain i Danmark, men stadig omfattet af ophavsretten i USA. Bestemmelsen i URAA betyder, at ophavsretten varer i 95 år efter tidspunktet for værkets skabelse. Efter at jeg blev opmærksom på problemet, har jeg gået uden om værker fra efter 1922, da der jo i forvejen er rigeligt med Bruun Rasmussen-værker at uploade. Til gengæld gemmer jeg et link til disse værker til fremtidig brug, for for hvert år, der går, vil vi kunne uploade nye, frigivne værker. Som du kan se, har URAA desværre negative implikationer for muligheden for at huse dansk billedkunst efter 1922 på Commons. Men samtidig kan jeg konstatere, at Commons ikke har debatteret emnet siden 2014, og at problematiske værker ikke automatisk slettes. "Vent og se" lader til at være den fremherskende indstilling. Mvh. --Urbandweller (talk) 19:12, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Hej Urbandweller. Ja det er rigtigt at der er en løbende gråzone på 25 år (p.t. 1923-1947). Det udløser en lille advarsel på uploads, men som du skriver, gør Commons ikke mere ved det. Selv holder jeg mig til 70-års reglen - nok er nok. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 19:58, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Helt enig. Jeg vil også lejlighedsvis lægge værker op fra gråzone-perioden. Og så er der jo alle de mange værker, hvor fremstillingsåret ikke kendes... Mvh. --Urbandweller (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

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Sorry, Rsteen, i was inattentive. I've restored your modification. --Lalupa (talk) 13:33, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Fejl i uploads af BR-malerier fra auktionen den 29. maj

Hej Rsteen, jeg er ked af at putte malurt i bægeret, men jeg kan se, at alle dine uploads af værker fra auktionen den 29. maj har fejl i bund og højre side af lærredet - på nær Eckersbergs marine af "En brig uden for Helsingør". Af samme grund har jeg ikke foretaget uploads endnu fra denne auktion, som desværre ikke har tilgængelige versioner med ramme, hvad det så end skyldes. Jeg går ud fra, at vi i stedet må konvertere JPG-versionen til PNG, som du instruerede mig i? Selv om det vil give en væsentligt mindre dimension end de store, men fejlbehæftede filer. Mvh. --Urbandweller (talk) 23:17, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Hej Urbandweller. Dårlige nyheder er altid bedre end uvidenhed - men træls er det da. Den omtalte Eckersberg opdagede jeg selv, og brugte JPG-versionen. De andre havde jeg ikke set. Med hensyn til de øvrige uploads vil jeg overveje, om de skal beskæres for at fjerne fejlene, eller om det giver et bedre resultat med JPG-manøvren. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 07:44, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Category:Tordenskjold (ship, 1882)

Hi, You moved this away from Category:Tordenskjold (ship, 1880) which is incorrect. The norm is date of launch. The ship was launched in 30 September 1880. There are too many ships named Tordenskjold, to let it lie like this. Please revert it. Thanks. Broichmore (talk) 09:14, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Broichmore. Using the launch date may the the norm on English Wikipedia (and otherwhere), but it is not the norm on Commons. Here we use the completition year (in this case 1882). Please read the discussion here Category_talk:Ships_by_year_of_manufacture. This is the guidance I follow until convinced otherwise. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 12:46, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Your right. I didn't know this. I've been using launch date. I don't understand why the EN:Wikipedia is not king here. The great majority of ship images worldwide have been stored or conserved on English sites using launch date??? Broichmore (talk) 13:57, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi again Broichmore. Glad you found out. People can name images more or less how they want - it is the categorization system that matters. And you might be pleased to observe that the English language is "king" here in the context that all descriptive categories on Commons have to be in English. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 14:14, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to make a facetious comment. I'm still getting over the shock of this. I've made 329 cats, using launch. 167 of them are HMS. I must have looked at 3 or 4 times that number, and checked them for launch date, and I've only found 4 or 5 exceptions to the launch date being used. Your thoughts? Best. Broichmore (talk) 16:12, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Broichmore. You are right that en:wikipedia has a consensus about launch date. But as stated above, Commons has a consensus about using the year of completion. So, for a lot of vessels, the procedure would be to change the category from "launchyear, ship" to "completion-year, ship". In an ideal world, the name of the ship category (HMS Name Year) should also be fixed, but that is a secondary item. Best wishes --Rsteen (talk) 20:13, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Naming Ship cats

Hi, While we're on the subject of ships. The policy for making a cat title is: "<name of ship> (ship, <year>)" a naming convention rather than a disambiguation rule. "(ship, <year>)" is added even if there is no other category named "<name of ship>". The "<name of ship>" may already mean ship. May I ask your view why we are inserting "ship into the title? I have my own views. What's yours? Why everything is ship; except submarine and tugboats? Best regards. Broichmore (talk) 09:08, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Broichmore. I would imagine that this naming convention stems from the fact that many ships are named after famous people or after towns, rivers, mythological persons and so forth, and to avoid disambiguation, you add "ship" and "year". In the UK, you put HMS in front, and you know it is a ship, but again - this is an international project. I agree that in many cases there is no risk of a disambiguation, but as a naming convention, I think it is ok. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 11:33, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

As far as I know the standard practise is to include HMS with ship in the title too. I.E. HMS Whatever (ship, 1900), why then? Broichmore (talk) 11:51, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes Broichmore, it can be HMS, USS, SS and so forth. The discussion pages about naming still exist, and I just accept that this is the naming system the community has arrived at. You could start a new discussion there, if you want to. --Rsteen (talk) 13:06, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Do you know where the previous discussions are that led to the naming policy? Broichmore (talk) 13:12, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

One of the discussions can be found here Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/08/ Naming categories for individual naval and fishing ships. It is rather long-winded, Broichmore, but does include gems of information. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 13:37, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

That was interesting. A lot of comments by people who don't do catting, by the look of it... I feel we need to to simplify. The customer is using EN:Wikipedia as their first stop to finding a ship, looking up articles and disambiguation pages. Therefore we should use their criteria. We should use the launch year first (cos that's when the ship is named), if none available the build year etc. We shouldn't use pennant or hull numbers (but they should be in the details)... Further disambiguation: Yard numbers! Prefixes for Naval ships only OK, unless its part of the name. Foreign navies leave as name only, which is how Commons should have treated ALL prefixes to begin with... What do you think? I think you'll find the by far and away the greatest number of cats are already launch date. Broichmore (talk) 16:32, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Well, Broichmore, personally I am quite content with the present system. I find it suitable that (ship, "1234") corresponds to category ships built in "1234". I respect your wish to alter it, but can not support you in that endeavour. --Rsteen (talk) 18:59, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for the paintings! --Palosirkka (talk) 17:34, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Palosirkka. Thanks for your appreciation. We should really thank the artists, whose work continue to stir our emotions. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 17:51, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

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Wish

Hello. Help improve for [1]. Thanks you. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.214.51.98 (talk) 09:24, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi 125.214.51.98. I can not really find any way to improve the photo of that young woman. But then again - I'm old. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 09:41, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Heinrich Dohm

Thank you very much, I rectified. https://www.alamy.com/franais-heinrich-dohm-homme-au-torse-nu-1896-1896-44-heinrich-dohm-1896-image206778123.html Chaumot 19:00, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Billeder af dårlig kvalitet

Burde en stor del af billeder på denne side https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Paintings_in_Statens_Museum_for_Kunst&filefrom=Joseph+Anton+Koch+-+Landscape+from+Civitella+near+Olevano+-+KMS554+-+Statens+Museum+for+Kunst.jpg#mw-category-media ikke slettes de starter alle "København, K"? --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 11:50, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Vi kan hurtigt blive enige om, at kvaliteten er særdeles svingende. Filerne er hentet fra Panoramio, og mangler beskrivelser af motiverne. Hvis vi i forvejen har ordentlige gengivelser af malerierne, kan disse filer flyttes til Category:Superseded paintings. Så behøver man ikke bøvle med at få dem slettet, men kan bare tilføje den nye kategori og slette Category:Paintings in Statens Museum for Kunst. Der er altid en chance for, at nogle af dem forestiller malerier, vi kun har i sort-hvid, og i så fald kan man overveje at beholde dem. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 12:11, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Tak - det arbejder jeg på. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 12:18, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

File:Poul Corona - Parti fra Skagen med kone gående i klitterne - 1911.png

Hvordan får man fat i dette fra Bruun Rasmussens hjemmeside? Jeg har forsøgt men kan ikke, hvilken metode bruger du? --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 08:15, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Det er lidt indviklet, så du får en mail med svaret. Mvh --Rsteen (talk) 08:25, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Rsteen/Artists from Denmark

Hvorfor er mit sidste upload, File:Dansk maler, En kvinde skuer tænksomt ud over havet. Antagelig sceneri fra en nordisk saga, 19. århundrede .png, ikke med i User:Rsteen/Artists from Denmark/2018 December 21-31? Det må nok være en programmeringsfejl. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 10:40, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Programmeringen gør egentlig det, den skal. Det handler om kunstnere fra Danmark, ikke kunstværker. Hvis de anonyme kunstværker skal med, er vi nødt til at oprette en kategori med "Unidentified artists from Denmark" og henvise til den. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 12:54, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Så er der lavet en kategori: Category:Unidentified artists from Denmark, måske skal der laves nogle ændringer. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 15:12, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Tak for oprettelsen. Har forsøgt at systematisere det, så malerierne er underkategorien, og de ukendte danske kunstnere er hovedkategorien. På den måde burde malerierne komme frem i de daglige oversigter, når blot de er oprettet med kategorien "Anonymous paintings from Denmark". Har omkategoriseret et par oprettelser. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 17:05, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Tak - kan godt se fornuften i dine rettelser. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 17:15, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Marry Christmas

	Julekort
	Glædelig jul og godt nytår Tak for din støtte og hjælp. Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 18:29, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Tak for det fine julekort - og tak for godt samarbejde i det forløbne år. Glædelig jul til fruen og dig, det kunne være hyggeligt at se jer nernede i det nye år. Venlig hilsen Ebbe --Rsteen (talk) 20:08, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

ubekendte kunstnere i Statens Museum for Kunst

Hvordan behandler vi ubekendte kunstnere i kategorien: Category:Statens Museum for Kunst? De blev lagt ind kort efter oprydningen. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 10:52, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Man kunne gøre som i Louvre: "Paintings by anonymous artists in the Louvre", med underkategorier. I SMK kunne underkategorien være malerier af anonyme tyske malere, fordi et par af værkerne er markeret sådan. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 12:16, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Chalup

Filen: File:Carl Frederik Sørensen - Kongefamilien bliver roet i land med chalup - 1846.png ville jeg anbringe i en kategori for chalup, men fandt ingen, men Sloops se da:Slup som er en en mastet sejlbåd. Tror du kan hjælpe. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 22:40, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Den løsning du valgte, er da helt ok. Der er p.t. ingen speciel kategori til chalupperne, og for mit vedkommende er den ikke på to-do listen. Venlig hilsen --Rsteen (talk) 18:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Jeg har prøvet at rette i denne skabelon: Template:PaintingfromDenmarkcat, således at Category:1909 paintings by country skulle blive sorteret efter "Denmark" og ikke "*". Men det lader til at jeg ikke formår det. Se min ændring her: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:PaintingfromDenmarkcat&diff=prev&oldid=335357151 .

Måske er det pga. cache jeg ikke kan se ændringen?

Skal det ikke sorteres efter land her "Denmark" og ikke efter stjerne. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:16, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Har lige kigget på kategorien, og din ændring ser ud til at være gået fint igennem. Godt arbejde! Mvh --Rsteen (talk) 05:20, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

forkert datering af et Krøyer maleri

se https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Peder_Severin_Kr%C3%B8yer_-_Portrett_av_Fru_Prof._Cecilie_Kr%C3%B8yer_(f._Gjesdal),_malerens_adoptivmor_-_Stavanger_kunstmuseum_-_SG.0001.jpg --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 07:26, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Har du det rigtige årstal? Mvh Ebbe. --Rsteen (talk) 07:53, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

ja, 1868 i følge fortegnelsen over Krøyers værker. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 08:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Er du sikker på, det er det rigtige? Krøyer portrætterede vist mosteren flere gange, og måske kendte Christensen ikke dem alle?. Mvh Ebbe --Rsteen (talk) 08:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Nej jeg er ikke 100% sikker, men næsten. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 08:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Birtha Cecilie f. Gjæsdal (f. 1817, d. 1891) - med dødsdata 1891 og født 1817 ligner maleriet ikke en dame på 71 år! --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 09:05, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

sortering af skibsportrætter

Jeg har været ved at sorterer nogle skibsportrætter malet af dansk/amerikaneren Antonio Jacobsen i denne kategori Category:Paintings of ships by Antonio Jacobsen, jeg gik efter årstal sortering men stødte undervejs på sortering efter skibsnavnet og stoppede derfor. Hvad er mon at foretrække? Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 20:14, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Flot maleri af S.S. Amerika. Der er vist ingen officielle regler, men når det handler om skibsportrætter ("Paintings of ships"), har jeg valgt samme sortering som ved portrætter af mennesker, altså med navnet som sorteringsnøgle. Venlig hilsen Ebbe --Rsteen (talk) 05:43, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

J. A. Moutte

Hi, Can you please look at (File:Skonnerten Frithiof, by J. A Moutte XLM.13857.jpg) I need a native speaker with access to the proper Danish sources to decipher the caption at the bottom of it. He uses the term Skonnerten?, also the captains name? Frithiof the way that's spelt or indeed the script used, maybe clues. I think Moutte is Swedish, but he could be Norwegian, indeed the entirety of the Category:J. A. Moutte and all its contents should be put under a microscope by a native speaker. Thanks in advance. Regards Broichmore (talk) 11:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Broichmore. Now there is the Swedish text and a translation. I am afraid J.A. Moutte remains something of a mistery. He was probably a member of the Moutte family of Marseilles, and maybe earned a little extra making ship portraits. But there is indeed a large segment of Swedish vessels among his work. By the way his initials may not have been "J.A.". Most paintings are signed "J." or "Jn". Cheers Rsteen (talk) 15:38, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

The Bengal picture is Signed Lower Right : J. Ande Moutte 1872, has that any particular meaning? Ande? Broichmore (talk) 19:07, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry Broichmore, but Ande just seems to be part of a name, maybe misread. Rsteen (talk) 20:29, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Nye uploads af danske kunstnere

Følgende File:Danish painter, 19th century, A nude male model. Unsigned.png er ikke med i oversigten, det burde den vel være. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 10:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Nu er der tilføjet en ekstra kategori, så det hænger sammen. Skal man være meget pedantisk, så burde vi bruge "anonymous" om malere, der ikke signerer deres værker, og "unidentified" om de værker, hvor maleriet har en signatur eller lignende - men hvor det bare ikke gør os klogere. Venlig hilsen Ebbe --Rsteen (talk) 17:42, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Antal malerier i en kategori

I Category:Paintings by Peder Mønsted by year er en opgørelse på antal underkategorier, men mon ikke der også kan laves en optælling af det samlede antal malerierne i den kategori? --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 10:00, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Jeg kender ikke nogen metode - ud over at tælle sammen med håndkraft. Venlig hilsen Ebbe --Rsteen (talk) 11:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

mine sidste uploads // usikkerhed om oprindelse

File:Ubekendt maler, 19. årh. Et par opstillinger med brogede blomster i kurve i skovbunden. (1).png og File:Ubekendt maler, 19. årh. Et par opstillinger med brogede blomster i kurve i skovbunden. (2).png har jeg lagt i "Paintings by unknown danish painter" men burde nok have været i "Unidentified painters" - der er ingen kilde på dansk oprindelse. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 07:29, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Hej Villy. Nu har jeg flyttet dem. Når jeg møder den type malerier, hvor det ikke er en af vennerne fra Kunstindeks Danmark, skriver jeg "Måske" i kolonne "F" i regnearket. Så kan de måske uploades ved en senere lejlighed - hvis der ellers bliver tid. Venlig hilsen Ebbe --Rsteen (talk) 09:03, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Tak - sådan skal de nok håndteres disse "ukendte". --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 09:43, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

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Identification of ships

Hi Can you look at these two images and advise the names of the two ships involved (not the steamer). First image (your upload): thumb|Eckersberg, C W - Prins Frederik går ombord på fregatten Havfruen - 1832 - Detail and second image: the original picture thumb|Christoffer-wilhelm-eckersberg-kjobenhavns-reed-den-1.-may-1832.-prins-frederik-gaar-om----bord-paa-fregatten-havfruen-for-at-gore. Thanks. - Broichmore (talk) 19:49, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Broichmore. Bramsen, in his 1962 book identified the frigate on the right as the Havfruen. This means that the one on the left must be the Nymphen, as they were the two Danish frigates on active service in the Sound at the time. I have expanded the description on our upload. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 05:10, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

So this image here thumb|HDMS Havfruen (1825) is mis-named? Notice, both frigates have men in the rigging. -Broichmore (talk) 08:26, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi again Broichmore. Good point. Bramsen was an art historian, not a naval historian, so he might have gotten it wrong, describing the ship to the right as the Havfruen. With the material at hand, I can not say which is which of the two frigates. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 10:59, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Hans Christian Jensen - Portrait of Emma Johanne Emilie Gamél.jpg

Hi, can you find the Bruun Rasmussen link of 06.04.2013, lot 345? Trzęsacz (talk) 12:06, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Sorry Trzęsacz, I can not find it. I am going through their number series and making a database of their auctions, but it only covers the years 2000-2003 (still incomplete). My friend User:Villy Fink Isaksen has started on 2010, and that is all we have for now. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 13:27, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Trzęsacz - I have searched several "numbers" from www.bruun-rasmussen.dk/search.do?iid=300554100&tg=classic&lang=en&mode=detail to www.bruun-rasmussen.dk/search.do?iid=300554240&tg=classic&lang=en&mode=detail and not found it. The "number" 554181 is from 04.04.2013 so may you can find it by going up and down on the "number". best wishes ---Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 17:47, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Link to 04.04.2013: http://www.bruun-rasmussen.dk/search.do?iid=300554181&tg=classic&lang=en&mode=detail --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 20:37, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, based on your example, I once downloaded with a machine 10000 thumbnails. The searched picture was unfortunately not there yet. But there are still a few tens of thousands open. I found many other paintings. Some are quite good. I can not assign them to any artist yet. greetings Trzęsacz (talk) 20:02, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Trzęsacz. You should be aware that when the painting was sold in 2001, it was paired with the painting of her husband Augustin Gamél. The thumbnail at that time would only show her husband's portrait - and that could be true in 2013 also. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 06:13, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

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• When the original file name contains vandalism. (File renaming criterion #5)

Please note, this ability should be used only in certain circumstances and only if you are absolutely sure that it is not going to break the display of the file on any project. Redirects should never be suppressed if the file is in use on any project. When in doubt, leave a redirect. If you forget to suppress the redirect in case of file name vandalism or you are not fully certain if the original file name is actually vandalism, leave a redirect and tag the redirect for speedy deletion per G2.

The malicious or reckless breaking of file links via the suppressredirect user right is considered an abuse of the file mover right and is grounds for immediate revocation of that right. This message serves as both a notice that you have this right and as an official warning. Questions regarding this right should be directed to administrators. --Majora (talk) 21:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Welcome, Dear Patroller!

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Counter Vandalism Unit

Hi Rsteen,

You now have the Patroller right and may call yourself a patroller! Please take a moment to read the updated Commons:Patrol to learn how Patrolling works and how we use it to fight vandalism.

As you know already, the patrolling functionality is enabled for all edits, not just for new-page creations. This enables us to keep track of, for example, edits made by anonymous users here on Commons.

We could use your help at the Counter Vandalism Unit. For example by patrolling an Anonymous-edits checklist and checking a day-part.

If you have any questions please leave a message on the CVU talkpage or ask for help on IRC in #wikimedia-commons.

-- ~riley (talk) 16:52, 27 November 2019 (UTC)