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Hello!

Please, reupload this file. This is pd-old. Coat of arms of Congress Poland created about 1815. I'm Polish and I have high-school certificate for history.

Bye --Starscream 16:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Done, but please say so on the image, else it'll keep getting erased. Rama 16:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, I like your concert photos! I see as you post lot of nomination, don't you like help of review writing? That's a good thing to take that what you get from others, and if you help on reviewing you got more chance to get a review from lesser undecided nomination. What do you think? --Beyond silence 01:31, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

As long as it helps me produce photos which suck less, anything goes, really. Rama 10:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Marjane Satrapi

Thank you for the picture!!!!! --Knulclunk 22:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Don't mention these, they are so lousy that I'm ashamed of myself. I really should have taken my flashgun along. Rama 22:56, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocking of Red Rooster

Hello. I have tried to upload new self made diagrams for the german Wikibooks "Gitarre". This failed because you have blocked me. The given reason was: "I do not understand the licence system on wikimedia commons". I have to notice, that my uploaded pictures where all free for use and thus, it was not nessecary to delete them. I've uploaded thousands of mostly self created, but at least legal and free images. Only 'cause I have added less than 10 images which are copyrighted in your opinion (but not in mine) you have blocked me.

Please unblock my account immediately, because I well understand that only copyleft or self made material is acceppted here. I wonder that only one single user can block my account, without any democratic acclamation or previous discussion with me.

I am a great wikimedia volunteer and I always enjoy adding new material on our great project. Please help me to continue my work, because we all have the same target. Red Rooster alias 84.56.80.165 18:17, 18 August 2007 (UTC) (because blocked).

Phrases like "copyrighted in your opinion (but not in mine)" are not reassuring to me. The fact is that you have uploaded random images from a commercial website and that you seem to labour under the delusion that such images are automatically public domain. Furthermore, you have removed warning on such images on several occasions, in spite of warnings not to do so.

Therefore, while I do not question your good faith, I have some doubts as to your understanding of copyright rules. Rama 19:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

THE FACT IS THAT THE MARSHALL PHOTOGRAPH WAS STATED TO BE FREE FOR USE ON THE WEBSITE I TOLD YOU (www.marshal.com). THUS, IT WAS OK TO REMOVE YOUR TAG BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONE WHO'S WRONG.

You are beginning to annoy me. I give you two options:

• Option A: You remove the blocking on my account until tomorrow,
• Option B: You leave me blocked and I will simply open a new user account to continue my work.

Please be aware that there is nothing like an Option C... So think about what you doing, someday one user could block your account without any serious reason.

I have seen nothing on the site of Marshal to support your claim, but if it is correct, then you should have no difficulty to source it. Rama 14:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't I? Tell me how to source anything without an account. And if I had one, tell me what to source and where, because you already deleted the image. I've uploaded this image long time ago and I can not find it again at marshal.com. Finally, I don't have to give you an account for what I'm doing! You are far from able to claim such thing to me! You have to unblock me or live with the consequences, I TOLD YOU THERE IS NO OPTION C. The Administrator privilege you enjoy doesn't give you the right to block me (no matter if you are right or wrong). You are acting against every simple wikipedia-rule. What you are doing is not free and democratic, it is exactly the opposite. You asked no one if you are right or wrong, implying that everything you do is right.

This is my last entry on this page ever. I repeat it now once again and for the very last time:
IF MY ACCOUNT IS NOT UNBLOCKED UNTILL TODAY, 22:00 GMT I WILL CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT. NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE DOING, ARE TELLING ME OR YOU THINK ABOUT ME!!! If you are not unblocking my account be assured I have to start a campain against your Administrator privilege. Best wishes, choose wise and many thanks for your understanding... 192.35.17.15 14:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

You should have sourced your image from the beginning. How to do so is explained on the upload form, and I have requested that you source the image before removing it and blocking your account.

As for the rest, I hope that you realise that you tone is ample confirmation that you have no understanding of the rules of the site. For future reference, Wikipedia is not democratic; being an admin on Commons totally gives me the right to block an account in cases of policy violations; you totally are accountable for what you're doing on this site (not only towards me, but towards the community); I do not imply that everything I do is right, I just state that one thing you repeatedly did is wrong and I requested, in vain, that your refrain from doing it; you are free to create accounts if you wish, provided you respect the rules of the site. Rama 15:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I just wanted to talk to you about a possible unblock, but to issue an ultimatum and all this shouting? But I even think it’s better to unblock the user and watch him instead of an unidentified account with comparable problems. --Polarlys 15:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

That's a good point. Would you mind ? I don't think that this user is going to like what I'd tell him anyway in the future. Rama 16:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Done. --Polarlys 16:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you a lot for unblocking my account. I hope you didn't get me wrong after all that hard words. You just wrote it down on your user page: "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both". You can be assured that I will try hard to avoid mistakes in the future and you always can tell me what you think about me, if I like it or not. Please understand that I got angry for blocking me, because I wanted to upload a lot of good stuff on the weekend and ended up with messing around... Red Rooster 18:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding. Rama 19:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

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Les images de trotsky

Voilà je viens de ressourcer les images suivantes, les autres peuvent être supprimés elles font doublon. Dis moi si c'est bon :)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:1919-Trotsky_Lenin_Kamenev-Party-Congress.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Trotsky_militant.jpg
Les images sont entre autres sur marxists.org qui ne distribue que des images libre (gnu) :
http://www.marxists.org/admin/legal/fdl.htm

et pour le portrait
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Trotsky1.jpg

Voilà. --Black31 20:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Attention: la page que tu cites sur marxists.org ne fait que donner un exemplaire de la GFDL, elle ne précise pas quels documents sont concernés. En tout état de cause, des photos de Trotsky sous licence GFDL sont assez improbables (vu qu'il est mort 59 avant avant la publication de la GFDL).

Je suis désolé, mais il reste des problèmes avec ces photos, dans la mesure où on n'en connait pas l'auteur (Image:Trotsky militant.jpg par exemple). Tu signales que le copyright est échu en Russie, mais rien n'indique que cela s'applique dans ce cas précis. Prends par exemple la photo de Trotsky par Capa : Capa étant mort en 1954, elle ne tombera dans le domaine public qu'en 2024.

Essaye peut-être d'écrire à marxists.org pour leur demander s'ils ont plus d'informations, mais en l'état, les sources sont insuffisantes. Rama 21:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

il y a des dizaines d'autres photos qui viennent de marxists.org sur common et dont on ne connait pas l'auteur et ça n'a jamais poser aucun problème puisque toutes les photos venant de ce site sont soient libres, soient en domaine publique. C'est le principe fondateur de marxists.org. Les textes proposés, les images et tous les documents sont dans une licence libre ou libre de droits. Je ne vois pas où est le problème. Voilà le lien qui en parle et montre que ça concerne tous les documents

http://www.marxists.org/admin/legal/

et plus précisement : "MIA encourages the free copying and re-distribution of all public domain materials on this site. Material that is explicitly noted as being copyright may be redistributed only with the explicit permission of the copyright holder(s), who must be contacted separately. Everything uploaded to MIA that is created by a volunteer is protected under the terms of the Attribution-Share-alike Creative Commons License and may be freely used and redistributed under the terms of that license." C'est bon maintenant :) ?--Black31 00:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Attention, ceci s'applique à ce qui est "created by a volunteer", donc les textes ou photos récentes. Mais ça ne dit rien sur les vieilles photos.

Commons a pour principe de justifier ses licences. On ne peut pas dire « tel ou tel site prétend que cette photo est dans le domaine public sens le justifier, alors nous le reprenons sans vérifier et nous nous en lavons les mains ». Ça, c'est la méthode du Monde citant l'AFP.

Je suis parfaitement conscient que c'est ennuyeux, mais c'est ainsi. Écris à marxist.org pour leur demander d'où proviennent leurs photos ; vu leur nature, il est probable que la plupart d'entre elles ont été prises et publiées en Union Soviétique par des auteurs soviétiques, auquel cas le bandeau « Domaine public soviétique » s'applique. Encore une fois, sois certain que ça ne m'enchante pas plus que toi, mais on ne peut pas prendre le risque qu'une photo du genre de celle prise par Capa se glisse sur Commons. Rama 09:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

mais ... il y a aussi écrit que le matériel (dont les images) où il n'est pas explicitement écrit qu'ils ont un copyright (et les images que j'ai prises n'en ont pas) sont considérés comme libres de droits. Non franchement d'autres admins n'ont pas fait tant d'histoires sur les autres photos de marxists.org qui n'ont pas d'auteurs (et y'en un tas), puisque ce site est une référence à ce niveau, elles ne publient que des documents et des images libres de droits ou sous licence libre, c'est connu et reconnu .... Mais bon je vais les contacter, ne touchons à rien en attendant... --Black31 11:31, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Au pire, regarde dans la bibliothèque de ta fac et de ta section s'il n'y a pas des bouquins qui contiennent ces images et en préciseraient la source (voire simplement la date et le lieu, ça pourrait suffire dans certains cas). Il y a des bios de Trotsky assez joliment illustrée. Rama 13:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

je suis chez moi (un trou paumé) actuellement, mais en effet c'est une bonne idée pour la rentrée. De toute façon je pense que MIA me répondra sur une question aussi simple et qui n'est qu'un truc de routine (puisque toutes les photos du site sont normalement libres de droits). Bon par contre, quand ? ça je sais pas ... --Black31 14:16, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Il n'y a pas urgence non plus ; à tous les coups ces photos sont dans le domaine public, et il est excessivement improbable qu'il y ait jamais de réels problèmes avec. Le seul problème est qu'on ne peut pas balayer l'idée de copyright comme pour des mosaïques romaines ou des gravures de la Révolution française ; donc il est nécessaire de clarifier la situation, mais ça ne veut pas non plus dire que je suis déterminé à me comporter comme un crétin. Rama 15:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Contributions sur Commons

Salut,

Merci à toi pour tes remarques, je vais en tenir compte. Je vais me pencher sur les rubriques d'aide avant de faire de nouvelles bétises.

Thedreamstree 00:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Parfait, merci pour ta compréhension. Si tu as des difficultés, n'hésite pas à demander, à moi, à un autre admin, sur le Commons:Bistro ou sur IRC. Rama 09:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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Images nominated for deletion

I will nominate images for deletion that I feel warrant deletion and will do so in good faith as I always do. If you had taken the time to read the last closure, it was closed because someone claimed it was tainted by bad faith on the part of one of the voters (apparently, one of them vandalized the image in question). The person who closed it invited me to renominate for deletion. So please, take your snide, condescending remarks about me "making more paperwork" for you and cram them. You seem to be under the impression that I'm some kind of n00b and I assure you that I am not. Night Ranger 03:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Then you should know better than taking such a tone. Rama 07:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Pot. Kettle. Black. Have a nice day! Night Ranger 16:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Keep on it and it'll be "Admin. Half-wit. Blocked". Rama 17:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh I see. I'm accused of bad faith right off the bat, which is a violation of WP:AGF (or maybe that doesn't apply at Commons? I don't know). I'm upset (and rightfully so, I think) by you accusing me of wasting people's time with no substantive evidence and using an arrogant, dismissive attitude with me like I'm some kind of common vandal or troll. I make note of what I see as hypocrisy on your part and you go on a power trip and threaten to block me out of hand? Not very communicative, that. If you'd like to feel powerful rather than discuss the issue with me, assume good faith, etc. etc. feel free to block away, it's your privilege to do so, but don't expect me to just accept being steamrolled. Night Ranger 18:14, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Douglas SBD

Ca va Rama, the aircraft depicted (SBD Dauntless 0499 and 0516) is not a Douglas SBD Dauntless U.S. Navy dive bomber, but a North American T-6 Texan trainer in the colours of the U.S. Air Force. --cobatfor 12 Sep 2007, 20:35h (CEST)

Image copyright violation?

Encyclopeadia Dramatica is using (uncredited) your sketch of cunnilingus. --[[User:Dante Alighieri| | [[User talk:Dante Alighieri|Talk]]]] 18:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Cesarosofo.jpg

Hi, would you please tell who is the owner of this picture? thanks--Cvmontuy 14:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The photograph was uploaded by User:Cesarosofo; I don't know who took the photograph, where it was published, nor whom it represents. I hope that the answer to your question is somewhere among those. Rama 14:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

About my personal photo...

The photography was taken by my wife, is a personal photo of my person, but according to the norms of Wikipedia, I am not forced to reveal my true identity, and at the moment I prefer to continue collaborating like an anonymous user, like one more than the hundreds of thousands that are in same the conditions in Wikipedia. I do not understand because always they erase my own personal photo to me.

I have some photos greater, but in all the cases they have been made with film camera or film, not with digital camera, are images scanned and later processed in Photoshop. I am a quite greater person (I have more than 74 years), and cannot more make, quite already difficult turns out to me to be able to collaborate with Wikipedia. Please, I hope that it has a little patience and understanding. I will publish another greater photo, I hope that this yes it pleases you.

Please, it would be thankful to you if no to erase my personal photo. My Regards, --Cesarosofo 17:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I understand your difficulties. You are of course entitled to your anonymity, and we welcome all contributions.

On the other hand, we have to acertain that the photographs uploaded here are legally made available. The very existence of our site depends on it. Every day, a number of photographs are uploaded illegally, either as jokes or out of misunderstanding; often, these images are simply taken from commercial websites such as online newspaper editions.

The problem with you image is that in such a small size, it will always trigger suspicions that it was taken from a website. If you could upload a larger version of your image (several hundred pixels), this problem would be less probable.

Do not hesitate to ask me if you have questions; you can e-mail me personally with this link, if you prefer (for privacy reasons for instance).

Thank you very much for your understanding and for you contribution, which, in spite of these difficulties, is very much appreciated. Rama 17:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I just restored the photograph, by the way. Rama 17:53, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Is being low resolution a final feature for a picture to be labelled "copyvio" and being deleted without further consideration or warning to the uploader? Fortunately Cesarosofo knows English and has been able to give you his reasons (and the "necessary" huge res picture you need). If I were in his shoes I would be downloading back the old picture right now (now it is not illegal anymore, is it?). Are you really sincere when you say that such or such contribution is much appreciated after having acted like that? Things like this do not make a very friendly place out of Commons --89.168.17.116 17:40, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Low resolution is a high presumption of copyvio, and we are not willing to compromise the very existence of Commons for a few cases. If you like due process, you will find it in democracies. Wikipedia and Commons are not democracies. Rama 21:46, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do not change the topic with that stock retort. I do know (and clearly can see) this is not a democracy. The topic is about being minimally considerate and fair (something to be supposed to be a default feature for an admin, innit?). Please do not disguise your (or other's) laziness, haste or lack of consideration with arguments about the risks for this project. If that is such a risk for the project as you say it is not so difficult to flashily label it and categorize the pic as suspicious (with the usual deadline you seem to be so fond of, for example) and then properly contact the user (with another template, for example) explaining the problem with low res pics and asking them (not bullying them as in this case) to either provide a bigger one (by e-mailing it to an admin as proof or by uploading it) or by directly uploading it or provide any other kind of proof. If you cannot do it because you admins are too busy, either get more people or block (with proper explanations) that kind of pics at the very uploading. Nobody here has to pay for a few persons' paranoia or possible subconscious longing for a police state. Is the "good faith" statement that appears in the welcome template only to be applied to users and no to admins? And finally how can you be so sure that unfairly deleted low res pics are "a few cases"? Maybe you have got statistics available or something? --Nacatamal 18:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Being fair and pleasurable is only a secondary objective. Our main objective is to exist to provide the world Free content. A copyvio must last the shortest possible time on our servers.

For the rest, I suggest that you keep your political insinuations for yourself, and if you think that you can do better than me, I'll be glad to watch you doing things rather than lecture about them. Rama 18:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Léonce Perret (le retour)

Salut, J'ai fait des recherches au sujet des photos de Léonce Perret que tu avais supprimées. J'en ai d'ailleurs trouvé d'autres. Mon grand-père les a scanné et me les a renvoyé avec plus d'informations.

D'après Jacques et Germaine Marillier, héritiés de Léonce Perret, parmis les 24 photos au sujet du cinéaste mise en ligne sur Wikimedia Commons  :

• Les numéros 9, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 et 24 sont prises en famille. Les auteurs sont donc soit le frère Ernest Perret (1873-1949), soit la soeur Lucie Perret (1870-1963), soit les parents Eliès Ferdinand Perret et Marie Collinet.
• Les autres photos sont prises dans le cadre de son travail. L'auteur est pour la plupart sa femme Valentine Perret (décédée en 1951) qui a toujours travaillé avec lui. Sauf pour les photos 9 et 10 où elle a dû passer l'appareil à un collègue (puisqu'elle est sur la photo).

Les photos 4,5,6,7 et 8 sont des photos de morceaux de pellicules ou des photos d'écran de cinéma. Ces photos représentent Léonce Perret dans des films (dans les années 1900-1910 puisque c'est à cette période qu'il était acteur) dont la plupart des bandes n'existent plus. Ce sont les seules photos pour lesquelles je ne suis pas sûr qui possède les droits. Les propriétaires actuels de ces photos (Jacques et Germaine Marillier) ne sont pas sûrs, il faudrait se renseigner au niveau juridique.

Bref historique afin de clarifier qui est le détenteur des droits sur ces photos. À la mort de Léonce Perret en 1935, sa femme Valentine Perret hérite de son patrimoine (dont les photos). En 1936, Valentine lègue 2/3 (dont les photos) à son neveu Fernand Ephreme et 1/3 au frère de Léonce, Ernest Perret. À la mort de Fernand Ephreme, sa fille Germaine Ephreme (elle s'appelera ensuite Germaine Marillier) hérite des photos.

Germaine Marillier est donc l'actuelle détentrice des droits sur ces photos.

Jacques et Germaine Marillier m'ont confirmé leur souhait de mettre dans le domaine public les photos dont ils détenaient les droits.

Les coordonnées de Jacques et Germaine Marillier seront fournies sur demande.

Cordialement, --Ajor933 22:07, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Je n'ai pour l'instant mis en ligne que cette photo. J'attend d'être sûr qu'il n'y plus de problème avant de charger les autres. --Ajor933 22:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Les photos des films (4,5,6,7 et 8) sont irrécupérables, sauf enquête et démarches spécifiques.

En ce qui concerne les photographies prises par des membres de la famille, il faudrait dans l'idéal pouvoir identifier l'auteur, ou tout au moins pouvoir restreindre l'auteur à un ensemble de personnes dont les droits ont été hérités par les mêmes personnes. L'important est d'éviter les approximations ; par exemple les photos où figure la femme sont difficiles à récupérer sous ce rapport.

Pour le reste, envoie un mail à l'OTRS ( permissions-commons AT wikimedia DOT org ) en expliquant le détail de ces droits, avec une copie du mail des ayant droits. Il y a des membres de l'OTRS qui parlent français, donc tu peux copier-coller l'essentiel de ce que tu viens d'écrire.

Bravo, jolie prise ! Rama 13:58, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, je vais m'occuper de ça. Pour la photo que j'ai déjà mis en ligne, est-ce que cette licence est appropriée. N'est-il pas possible de mettre une licence Domaine public, sachant que c'est le souhait de celui qui detient les droits? Ou doit-on attendre encore afin que les auteurs des photos soient mort depuis au moins 70 ans? --Ajor933 18:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Tu mets la licence spécifiée par l'ayant droit. La licence que tu as mise est équivalente à Domaine Public, en pratique. Demande aux ayants droit de spécifier que c'est bien cette licence-là qu'ils veulent dans leur mail. Rama 18:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

L'ayant droit a bien précisé Domaine public. Mais comme il y a plusieurs licences Domaine public, laquelle est, selon toi, la plus appropriée entre celle-ci et celle-là? --Ajor933 19:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

celle-là. Il y a des subtilités sur la possibilité de renoncer à ses droits en France (je crois qu'il n'est pas possible de renoncer aux droits patrimoniaux). Rama 20:40, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Le problème, c'est qu'avec Template:PD-author, il est écrit que la photo a été placé dans le domaine public par l'auteur, or ici nous sommes dans un autre cas, puisque c'est l'héritier de la photo qui l'a placé dans le domaine public. Peut être que le Template:PD-because est plus approprié, comme ici? --Ajor933 21:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Bien vu, encore une fois. Donc exit Template:PD-author.

J'ai ajouté la remarque "In case this is not legally possible" à Template:PD-because (pas vraiment de raison de ne pas l'avoir). Tu peux utiliser Template:PD-because, je crois qu'il est bétonné, comme ça. Je laisse une note sur la talk page de ce template, en espérant qu'il n'y ait pas de nouveaux rebondissements. Rama 21:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, ça devrait être bon comme ça. J'ai mis en ligne toutes les photos dont j'étais sûr que l'auteur était membre de la famille (voir Category:Léonce Perret). Je vais envoyer le mail à l'OTRS. --Ajor933 23:40, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Parfait. Encore bravo, c'est de l'excellent boulot. Rama 07:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you for uploading images such as Image:Louvre-peinture-francaise-paire-de-chevaliers-romantiques-p1020301.jpg of the Louvre. However they are all missing information such as who was the artist, when was the painting done, where exactly in what room is the painting hanging, etc.? Could you please try to fill up the information that is missing, that would be extremely helpful, thank you. sincerely Gryffindor 23:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

We still lack the dimensions and various reference numbers, but that's a starting point. Rama 09:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Yes! =)

I like of a party! When?? The history more translated forever! heheeh! hugs, --FML ^hello 05:18, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

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Images à supprimer

Bonjour,

Comme cela a déjà été le cas, peux-tu supprimer quelques images qui ne me servent plus à rien (moches en particulier; c'est le cas des histogrammes de débit des cours d'eau; l'atelier graphique m'en fait, sans difficulté, de meilleurs)

• Image:LaBresle1.jpg
• Image:Bresle à Longroy.jpg
• Image:Aude à Moussan.jpg
• Image:Sarthe à Sablé.jpg
• Image:La Saâne à Sainte-Marguerite-sur-Mer.jpg
• Image:Carte du bassin du Murray (PNG).png

Une autre question, est-il possible de renommer les images ?

Merci d'avance. antonov14 08:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Voilà qui est fait.

Le renommage n'est malheureusement pas possible en temps que tel (et Dieu sait qu'on y pense). La procédure équivalente consiste à ré-uploader l'image sous le bon nom et à supprimer l'ancienne. N'hésite pas à me demander si le besoin s'en fait sentir.

Bonne continuation ! Rama 08:19, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Merci Rama. Pour le renommage des images, cela attendra (en effet, ce serait vraiment moins lourd que la procédure actuelle). @+. antonov14 17:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, I'm not sure which image you are referring to, but I think I only removed instances of {{PD-USGov-NARA}}. The text of that template states: "If there is no proof for the public domain status of this work, please replace this tag by {{nld}}." I'm far from an expert at Commons though, so if I'm doing it wrong, please continue to let me know! Thanks! --Butseriouslyfolks 19:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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Péron et d'Entrecasteaux

Bonjour. J'ai toutes les raisons de penser que cette image censée représenter Antoine Bruny d'Entrecasteaux représente en fait François Péron et que celle-ci, qui serait le portrait du second, nous montre plutôt le premier. La page source que tu as utilisée pour les deux illustrations doit être erronée, car Péron ressemblait à ça et d'Entrecasteaux à ça, ce qui plaide pour une interversion. Surtout, on trouve par ailleurs une légende explicite en faveur de mon argumentation.

Peux-tu renommer le tout avec les précisions nécessaires, et en modifiant le contenu des articles problématiques dans toutes les langues ? Thierry Caro 03:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Joli coup ! Visiblement, ils ont inversé deux légendes sur nla.gov.au.

J'ai réuploadé les deux images comme Image:Antoine-Raymond-Joseph Bruny d’Entrecasteaux.jpg et Image:François Auguste Peron.jpg (en gardant la légende originale pour celle-ci), et effacé les deux mal nommées.

Pour le contenu, c'est fait en anglais, mais je ne le ferai pas dans les autres langues. Si le coeur t'en dis, vas-y.

Encore bravo. Rama 08:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Merci. Thierry Caro 13:19, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Edbrown05

You gave this User a warning about vandalizing one of my images, but I think it calls for a block. EdBrown05 has been banned on Wikinews and lost his accreditation as a reporter for persistent vandalism and personal attacks, which he has now taken to the Commons: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Ironiridis/Edbrown05. --DavidShankbone 12:24, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I've fired a warning shot; I'll respond to the next annoyance with an Exocet. Rama 13:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)