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Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:33, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for uploading File:Saxophone-with-music.svg. I notice that the file page either doesn't contain enough information about the license or it contains contradictory information about the license, so the copyright status is unclear. If you created this file yourself, then you must provide a valid copyright tag. For example, you can tag it with {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all}} to release it under the multi-license GFDL plus Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike All-version license or you can tag it with {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain. (See Commons:Copyright tags for the full list of license tags that you can use.) If you did not create the file yourself or if it is a derivative of another work that is possibly subject to copyright protection, then you must specify where you found it (e.g. usually a link to the web page where you got it), you must provide proof that it has a license that is acceptable for Commons (e.g. usually a link to the terms of use for content from that page), and you must add an appropriate license tag. If you did not create the file yourself and the specific source and license information is not available on the web, you must obtain permission through the VRT system and follow the procedure described there. Note that any unsourced or improperly licensed files will be deleted one week after they have been marked as lacking proper information, as described in criteria for deletion. If you have uploaded other files, please confirm that you have provided the proper information for those files, too. If you have any questions about licenses please ask at Commons:Village pump/Copyright or see our help pages. Thank you.

Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:33, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Category:Outline SVG icons

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Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:49, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

You may experience a discomfort writing in English, but you certainly are good reading English. Please, explain you intentions in Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/01/Category:Outline SVG icons in any language you are good with. With your current attitude (namely, to ignore warnings and proceed with your changes after some week) you are testing bounds of the community’s patience. Note also this revision of your talk. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:21, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Templating File: pages

Thanks for attracting my attention (yes, I stalk you) to File:Venn3.svg where original clueless SVG was overwritten in 2010 by an unrelated user. I supplied this peculiar case with two {{information}} templates.

One critical remark – don’t add templates to a page’s trail. Moreover, don’t add anything visible except license tags to the == Licensing == section. All descriptive information of a media should go to == Summary == (preferably to the {{Information}} template which also admits other_fields= parameter).

In general, you should read documentation of templates you are using, but in the {{Created with Text Editor}} case no instructions for placements were provided. Better to make

{{Information
………
|other_fields = {{Created with Text Editor}}
}}

Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:45, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the hint. I have read much template documentation, but honestly, they are often hard for me to understand.

I see now that I am documenting my uploaded files incorrectly, sorry for that, I did not add the {{HandSVG}} in the description section.

In my private Wikis I use a template documentation based on the template documentation in the English & German Wikipedia and Commons. I made it less complex which may not be applicable in a complex Wiki like Commons, if the community is interested I can provide it. I already wrote a userpage about that, in German. Pd4u (talk) 21:15, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Bezier SVG flower heart.svg

Hallo, mir ist aufgefallen dass du versuchst das Tool mit |other_fields = {{HandSVG}} anzugeben. So kann das nicht funktionieren, bei other fields musst du immer mit Template:Information field arbeiten - oder du verwendest Image generation von dem das alles erledigt wird, dann sieht das so aus: |other fields={{Igen|HandSVG|+|s=g}} (falls hier als Subkategorie "g" für "Geometrics" genommen wird), wie ich es in Bezier SVG flower heart corrected.svg:  korrigiert habe.
Bei {{ HandSVG }} sollte immer auch das "v" angegeben werden: {{ HandSVG | v }}, wenn die Graphik W3C-valide ist! -- sarang♥사랑 12:54, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Danke für den Hinweis, ich werde die Beschreibungen entsprechend deiner Vorlage korrigieren Pd4u (talk) 17:01, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Könntest du bitte nachschauen, ob es so passt, wie ich es hier:  gemacht habe? Wenn ja, werde ich nach und nach alles ausbessern, danke Pd4u (talk) 17:16, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Hat leider noch nicht ganz gestimmt: du kannst die Unterschiede sehen:

1. das "v" ist default und kann aber muss nicht geschrieben werden, hingegen ist das "+" absolut notwendig wenn Igen so verwendet wird, als other fields.
2. wenn du "U=" statt "u=" schreibst wird der link mit U mitverwendet, das ist einfacher.
3. beim Datum hattest du dich vertippt
4. das Zeichen für Grad ist ° und muss nicht durch hochgestelltes "o" substituiert werden, bei mir ist es unten im Standardsatz [] [[]] | ...

Leider ist das Template:Igen sehr komplex und schwer zu durchschauen, aber wenn du einmal die richtige Parametrierung hast für deine Grafiken wird es meist stimmen, lediglich die Subkategorie wird sich ggf. ändern; mit den unzähligen anderen Parametern und Möglichkeiten musst du dich nicht belasten! Eventuell brauchst du noch das "%" bei eingebettetem Text.

Wenn du willst kanst du den Code von Bezier SVG flower heart corrected.svg in Bezier SVG flower heart.svg übernehmen und das erstere, dann redundante, löschen lassen; ist deine Sache, da mische ich mich nicht ein. Aber ich habe auch nicht herausfinden können warum es offline geht, und nicht mit dem librsvg - du kannst den Fehler melden, wenn du willst! -- sarang♥사랑 21:37, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Nochmals herzlichen Dank für deine Geduld, dafür dass du gerade Pause machst, bist du ziemlich aktiv. Bezier SVG flower heart corrected.svg ist zwar eine korrigierte Version von Bezier SVG flower heart.svg, aber nicht in dem Sinn, dass erstere die letzter ersetzen soll, sondern ich möchte damit den Unterschied demonstrieren, wenn eine Maske verwendet wird. Die Namensgebung ist vll. nicht ganz glücklich gewesen, sollte eher ...heart with mask heißen.

Dann ich also nicht die Einzige, die sich schwer tut mit manchen Vorlagen, zu kompliziert, zu viele Parameter und die Beschreibung verwirrt mit zusätzlich. Grundsätzlich bräuchte man nur eine Vorlage für alles , halt mit einer Million Parametern. In meinem Wiki bemühe ich mich, die Vorlagen so einfach wie möglich zu halten.

Die Edittoolsleiste sehe ich auf Commons seit einiger Zeit nicht mehr, das gestaltet das Editieren unglaublich mühsam. Ich weiß nicht, wohin sie verschwunden ist, auf anderen Wikis sehe ich sie. Dieses Phänomen ist unabhängig vom Betriebssystem und tritt auf verschiedenen Computern und Betriebsystemen (allerdings nur Windows-Rechner) auf. Es muss irgendwie mit meinen Benutzereinstellungen zusammenhängen, ich finde allerdings die Einstellung nicht, ich habe die erweiterte Bearbeitungsleiste aktiviert. Pd4u (talk) 07:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Falls ich mit meiner Reparatur deine Gegenüberstellung ‘puttgemacht habe, tut es mir leid, du kannst ja alles revertieren; ich wollte das offensichtlich bestehende Darstellungsproblem mit extrem einfachem Code beheben. Bei den Einstellungen blicke ich leider auch nicht voll durch. Jetzt bin ich offiziell von der Pause zurück. --- sarang♥사랑 08:47, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Ist nicht wirklich wichtig, ich glaube, schön langsam verliere ich ohnehin den Überblick. BTW, warum verlinkst du auf deiner Userseite nicht auf den Commons SVG checker, hat das einen bestimmten Grund? Pd4u (talk) 09:36, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Ich habe jetzt die Ursache rausgefunden bzw. wie ich die Edittools wieder kriege: bei den Einstellungen/Helferlein im Unterpunkt Benutzeroberfläche: Bearbeiten und Hochladen die Checkbox bei Alte Edittools anklicken, dann ist die Eingabehilfe wieder da. Pd4u (talk) 15:14, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Symmetry categories

Chiral

Dihedral

Thanks for your participation. Do you know that there are such categories as 6-fold dihedral symmetry and 8-fold dihedral symmetry ? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:40, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes I do but I am not quite sure what the difference of 5-fold rotational symmetry and 5-fold dihedral symmetry is. A short description in every category (in different languages) would be very helpful for me, I think my language issue is greater than I expected Pd4u (talk) 16:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

They both are 5-fold symmetric, but mirror-invariant images have dihedral symmetry, whereas orientation-sensitive are chiral. The opposition between chiral and dihedrally symmetric images was more pronounced before Watchduck ruined Chiral images with rotational symmetry without any vestige of due process. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 16:37, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Leo doesn't help me out with this, google says that spiegelsymmetrisch is mirror-symmetrical, not dihedral. What do you suggest? Pd4u (talk) 17:15, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Could you follow the link I provided and decipher a plain English discussion? Again, such rotationally symmetric images that also have a mirror symmetry axis (passing through the centre of rotation) are dihedrally symmetric. Chiral images (two-dimensional) can’t have a mirror symmetry axis – that’s the difference. BTW, why did you change the mind about File:20Smooth-star-drawing nevit 134.svg? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 22:09, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I realized too late that the category twenty-pointed stars is a subcategory of 20-fold rotational symmetry. Thanks for the explanation, I do not have time just now, I will write more later. Pd4u (talk) 05:41, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

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Affected:

• File:Transparent 26Bytes.gif

Yours sincerely, Stang^★ 15:48, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Seriously? This discussion needs many more bytes than the size of the file. Do you want to delete all files on commons which are not used? Good luck with that... --Pd4u (talk) 23:47, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Category:Animated SVG

Hi! Just wanted to let you know that this category has been moved to Category:Animated SVG files so you'll probably want to update the statistics on your userpage to match. 140.177.205.223 20:21, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the info, I did not expect anyone to read my userpage ;-) --Pd4u (talk) 06:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)