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Début de réponse[edit]

Bonjour Madametic,

Je viens de prendre connaissance de votre message et je dois dire que je n'ai pas tout compris. Je vais tenter un début de réponse qui essaiera de clarifier les bases. Si cela n'est pas suffisant (et j'ai bien peur que ce sera le cas) n'hésitez surtout pas à me contacter à nouveau. Si nécessaire je pourrai essayer de vous contacter par un moyen direct.

Si je comprend bien la situation, vous avez importé plusieurs images qui ont été tirée des Archives nationales du Canada, telles que celle-ci. On peut voir que les images sont assez vieilles ce qui signifie qu'elles sont peut-être maintenant dans le domaine public, ce qui permettrait leur publication. Cependant, ce n'est pas parce que des images sont disponibles aux Archives ou qu'elles sont vieilles qu'elles sont nécessairement libres de droits. Pour chaque image, on doit vérifier qu'elle est effectivement libre de droit et en faire la démonstration.

Voici un exemple de ce que vous devez faire pour pouvoir importer une vieille image qui n'a pas été prise par vous sur Commons:

  1. Déterminer l'image à importer et trouver toutes les informations d'identification pertinentes (auteur, date de naissance et de mort de l'auteur, date de première publication, pays où a été créée l'oeuvre et où elle a été publiée, etc.)
  2. Pour les images prises et publiées au Canada, il faut vérifier que les images respectent les conditions du domaine public pour le Canada ET les États-Unis.
    1. Pour le Canada: on peut voir les conditions sur cette page. En gros: 50 ans après la mort de l'auteur s'il est connu ou le plus court entre 75 ans après la production de l'oeuvre (le moment où la photo a été créée) et 50 ans après la première publication (le moment où elle est imrpimée dans une publication comme un livre) si l'auteur est inconnu.
    2. Pour les États-Unis: on peut voir les conditions ici. En gros: n'importe quelle image publiée avant 1923, 95 ans après la mort de l'auteur si l'image est publiée avant 1978 ou 70 ans après la mort de l'auteur si l'image a été publiée après 1978.
  3. Indiquer toutes les informations trouvées pertinentes dans la description de l'image.
  4. Mettre un bandeau de licence approprié généralement {{PD-old-ca}} ou {{PD-old-70}}.

Si vous me fournissez les liens vers l'origine des images que vous avez importées, je pourrais peut-être essayer de faire une modification pour l'une d'elle pour vous donner un exemple. Pour donner un lien web externe dans une page wiki, on utilise la syntaxe suivante [adresse_du_lien description du lien]. Par exemple [http://www.wpqc.ca Wikipédia prend Québec] donne ceci: Wikipédia prend Québec.

J'espère que je vous ai fourni un bon début de réponse et que tout ceci vous sera utile. N'hésitez pas à me poser d'autre questions ici ou sur ma page de discussion. Si vous me fournissez les liens, je vais essayer de vous faire un bon exemple pour vous aider. Finalement, s'il devait arriver que les images soient supprimées, ne le prenez pas personnellement, ce sont des choses qui arrivent. La politique de Commons est complexe et stricte mais elle existe pour protéger les personnes comme vous qui importent des images de se faire poursuivre par les détenteurs des droits d'auteur des images.

Amicalement et au plaisir de travailler avec vous, Letartean (talk) 14:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merci beaucoup, Antoine. Je vais faire les modifications nécessaires. Nous avons un contrat avec la Bibliothèque et Archives nationales Québec pour les photos que j'ai publiées.--Madametic (talk) 15:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Dans ce cas, vous pouvez transmettre une copie de cet accord avec les Archives par Commons:OTRS/fr, et l'indiquer sur les images. J'imagine que si cet accord avec les archives est assez explicite, il ne sera pas du tout problématique de garder les images. J'avoue que je ne suis pas très familier avec ce processus d'OTRS mais je ne pense pas que ce soit compliqué. Si c'est ce que vous voulez faire, je peux utiliser un logiciel pour ajouter le modèle idoine sur toutes les photos, ce qui peut être long si on automatise pas un peu. Amicalement, Letartean (talk) 15:14, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Bonjour,

Je viens de parler avec Simon Villeneuve qui m'a expliqué un peu mieux votre situation et m'a transmis le numéro de téléphone par lequel il vous a contacté. J'espère que les explications données plus haut vous ont un peu aidé et que tout cela vous a permis de cheminer. Si vous avez quelque question que ce soit et que vous sentez je pourrais vous être utile, n'hésitez pas à me contacter. Étant administrateur de Commons et de Wikipédia, je peux faire certaines opérations de maintenance qui ne sont pas disponibles à tous les utilisateurs. De plus, j'ai une assez bonne expérience avec les licences et les applications pédagogiques de Wikipédia. Si vous vouliez un peu d'aide, vous n'avez qu'à laisser une réponse ici ou sur ma page de discussion et je pourrai communiquer avec vous. Au plaisir de vous aider, Letartean (talk) 21:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merci beaucoup pour votre collaboration. Je viens de parler avec un représentant de Société d'histoire d'Amos (une branche de la bibliothèque et archives nationales du Québec). Selon notre contrat, nous pouvons publier les images par diffusion électronique en citant les sources (que j'ai tout eu de façon très détaillée). Cependant, il est revenu sur la licence de diffusion. Il ne veut pas céder les droits des images. Donc, j'ai enlevé toutes les images correspondantes du Wiki Algonquins. Comment puis-je les supprimer de wikimedia commons?--Madametic (talk) 18:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Malheureux... Est-ce que les images sont vieilles? Connaît-on les dates de création ou de publication? Peut-on essayer de les convaincre qu'ils n'ont pas grand chose à perdre et tout à gagner de permettre la diffusion facile d'images anciennes?
Sinon, pour faire la suppression il suffit de faire une demande de suppression. Je vais le faire pour l'instant et vous donner le lien si ça devait avoir à se faire de nouveau. Amicalement, Letartean (talk) 21:22, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Bonjour, je viens de faire la suppression des images. J'espère que vous ne garderez pas un goût amer de cette aventure. AU contraire, j'espère que, avec mon aide si vous en avez besoin, vous réussirez à convaincre les personnes qui sont en mesure de rendre ces images disponibles de le faire. Il s'agit d'images qui ont une très grande valeur historique et qui seraient encore plus utiles si elles étaient publiques. Au plaisir de travailler de nouveau avec vous, amicalement, Letartean (talk) 00:54, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]