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Welcome![edit]

Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Loopy30!

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Thank you for uploading iNaturalist images to Wikimedia Commons![edit]

Hello Loopy, thank you for uploading iNaturalist images to Wikimedia Commons. I noticed you uploaded the medium quality version of File:Alfaroa_mexicana.jpg. I added the full resolution version (you can find this one by hitting the 'original' button on iNaturalist), assuming you meant to upload the highest quality version available.

If there are arguments for uploading the medium version instead, just let me know! Deelthx (talk) 13:19, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Loopy30, are you sure this is Addyme ferrorubella? It looks different from other pictures I find online (different position of the antemedian line, different postmedian line). Best regards --LamBoet (talk) 05:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LamBoet, as I was not the original observer of this insect, then I am not sure of any visual-only identification without the accompanying DNA sequencing results. However, this image was identified by two biology professors as being Addyme ferrorubella. Other images used for comparison in determining this identification can be found here and here. In these images appear a range of variations of the morphology of the antemedian and postmedian lines. Is there a different species name that you could suggest as an alternative identification for the moth in this image? 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 12:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Loopy30, many thanks for your answer! I don't have documentation to suggest an alternative species, but I trust your sources and your second link is convincing indeed. I just created the species category. Have a nice weekend --LamBoet (talk) 19:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrol given[edit]

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LicenseReview[edit]

Would you consider to add {{LicenseReview}} to your uploads from iNaturalist? It gives a second check of its license, see also Commons:License review. Lymantria (talk) 07:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lymantria, as all 545 images that I have uploaded since the start of the year have been sourced from iNaturalist, could the inclusion of this tag be now added to each file by a bot? For future uploads, could adding this template not be embedded as a feature within the Upload Wizard? And is a "License Review" carried out by an "Image Reviewer" for each file newly uploaded by those users who have not yet been granted the "Autopatrolled" user right? Loopy30 (talk) 11:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My bot is running. Image review is only for images from external sources, and most uploads aren't. It is meant just to ensure they are indeed licensed under a free license. Auto-patrol has nothing to do with it. I do many uploads from external sources myself, and my images are reviewed as well. It would be a pity if they would have to be deleted in a couple of years, because the source is gone and check is not possible. Lymantria (talk) 13:53, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I can add the template to new uploads (is this correct?). When you say that your bot is running, does that mean that it is now retroactively adding the template to the 545 files that I previously uploaded, or "reviewing their license", or doing something else? My comment on auto patrol was meant to ask if images uploaded by a user without autopatrol would be automatically reviewed for their license applicability without the addition of the LicenseReview template to the file. 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 14:43, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My bot has added {{LicenseReview}} to your previous uploads from inaturalist. Your adding of the template is okay, I would prefer placement directly following the license template. There is no automatic review for non autopatrol users. Best regards, Lymantria (talk) 16:12, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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That's https://www.inaturalist.org/photos/48809590 --MGA73 (talk) 21:22, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

INaturalist[edit]

Hi! As you know there are many files from INaturalist that is not yet reviewed. If you have time you can help by uploading the original image and requesting a new INaturalistreview. Once the file is reviewed you can revert to the cropped version. --MGA73 (talk) 20:19, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MGA73, which image are you referring to? Loopy30 (talk) 00:21, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! Oh lol.... I thought you could read my mind ;-) I'm talking about the images in Category:iNaturalist images needing human review. Example File:Anolis mariarum.jpg. --MGA73 (talk) 06:25, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again! For files like File:Balaustium leanderi.jpg perhaps you could upload the original file, wait for the bot to review the file and then crop the file? That would save us a lot of time because then we do not have to check the files manually. --MGA73 (talk) 10:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding files from English Wikipedia[edit]

Hello, for moving files originally hosted on English Wikipedia, please refer to Commons:Moving files to Commons, and also consider using one of the tools listed on that page (CommonsHelper can be useful for normal users). This enhances standardization among files. Should you have further questions, please feel free to ask me, thank you.廣九直通車 (talk) 10:52, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes files should not be moved manually. But I think FileImporter (also called FileExporter) is better. It's a great way to move files. It will move the file history.
You can use it by adding it from en:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures on the wiki you wanna move files from. And you can read more about it at mw:Help:Extension:FileImporter. --MGA73 (talk) 10:56, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi 廣九直通車, I didn't know I was moving any files from English Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons at all. Is this something I am unaware of? Loopy30 (talk) 00:45, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

identity[edit]

Hi Loopy - unfortunately, File:Juniperus pingii.jpg is not Juniperus pingii as claimed at inaturalist, but most likely a juvenile-foliage cultivar of J. chinensis, or possibly J. squamata; the leaf structure does not match J. pingii. The location (South Korea) is also well away from the native range of J. pingii (SW China). I am not on inaturalist so can't add an ID comment there; if you are, would you like to add an ID correction there, please? It should also be removed from the wikipedia pages where it is used. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 15:00, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Addenum: I see from the 2nd image at the source, it is a cultivated plant with a label "Juniperus pingii var. wilsonii"; this taxon is now confirmed genetically (Gymnosperm Database) as a variant of J. squamata - MPF (talk) 15:07, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi MPF, I will suggest a new identification on iNaturalist to change it there. Loopy30 (talk) 15:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, thanks! - MPF (talk) 16:01, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
MPF, I have removed the image from the all the Wikipedia pages where it was in use, and added the caveat that it was cultivated (and not wild) to the observation on iNat. However, the identification given on iNat was not a case of mistaken identity, but instead just follows a differing taxonomic classification system, by treating Juniperus squamata var. wilsonii as a synonym for Juniperus pingii var. wilsonii - as does POWO. Loopy30 (talk) 20:18, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Let's hope POWO and inat follow up on the genetic studies by Adams (cited on the Gymnosperm Database page) - MPF (talk) 21:02, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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MGA73 (talk) 15:54, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MGA73, I have sent a message on iNaturalist to the original author to ask if they would change the license back to CC-BY, but have not yet received any reply. Additionally, the following images from the same author are also affected:
  • Osteocephalus planiceps.jpg
  • Lepidoblepharis sanctaemartae.jpg (already deleted)
  • Lepidoblepharis festae.jpg (already deleted)
  • Metriophasma diocles.jpg
  • Lygophis lineatus.jpg (already deleted)
  • Anolis concolor (already deleted)
  • Osteocephalus planiceps

If the original author does not reply, then these images will have to be deleted from Wikimedia Commons. Loopy30 (talk) 16:20, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Hope for a good response soon. --MGA73 (talk) 16:30, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi MGA73, nothing heard from the original author and they were last active on iNat on 20 Aug. Delete away! Loopy30 (talk) 00:17, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 11:49, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source fixed. Loopy30 (talk) 12:59, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

iNaturalist[edit]

Hi! When you upload files from iNaturalist it would be a big help if you would upload the original file and request a licensereview. The bot should review the file within a few minutes. After that you can upload the cropped file. That way we do not have to review the files manually. --MGA73 (talk) 16:40, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MGA73, the iNaturalist image review bot certainly does good work in reviewing the image licenses! - However, when dealing with those exceptions where an original image has been cropped, a manual review by visual comparison will still have to made by a human reviewer. This is because most (if not all) of these altered images would be considered as "radical/substantial crops" or "major re-compositions" of the original images and which should then be re-labeled with new filenames as per COM:CROP. These new files would still have to be (manually) reviewed and would also end up duplicating all the ancillary information from the original image file page. This would not be either an effective workflow or a desired outcome. 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 19:26, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Loopy30! The problem is that we lack active reviewers. If you count the files in Category:License review needed and subcategories you may end up with 30k files. So it can take years before someone review the file. So you risk that the file will be long gone or the license is changed before someone check the file.
It is correct that uploading a new file on top of a reviewed file could need a review. But if someone upload a different photo on top of an file that is reviewed then they can just revert it or nominate it for deletion. Once the original is reviewed then it is always possible to verify the crop.
I know that we often want to keep original images. But i think we can use Commons:Overwriting_existing_files#Secondary_images here. As an alternative you can upload the original and have the bot review that. Then you can make a derivative work and link to the original. That way we have secured the license. --MGA73 (talk) 19:40, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]