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Yours sincerely, LGA talkedits 03:21, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Re: File:Fort Henry-Laslovarga (87).JPG[edit]

Hi. Love your photos. I just thought I'd let you know that I have changed the description for this photo since it does not show Fort Henry. It's actually a photo of Fort Frederick, which is located at the south end of Point Frederick (where the Royal Military College of Canada is situated). Fort Henry is to the east of Point Frederick across Navy Bay. Cheers.---B Crawford (talk) 19:45, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Part Yugo template.jpg[edit]

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Zoupan (talk) 23:06, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Serbian_folk_costume[edit]

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Zoupan (talk) 09:33, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2015 Pan American Games[edit]

Your disclaimer "The use of such (this) photographs for advertising or any other commercial purpose, in any medium or in any manner whatsoever, is expressly prohibited by TO2015 unless the prior written consent of TO2015 is acquired" means that your pictures are actually under a CC-BY-NC license (and not suitable for Wikipedia). Målfarlig! (talk) 19:05, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually that is CC-BY-NC 4 Non Commercial. You are free to:
  • Share — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format
  • Adapt — remix, transform, and build upon the material - The licensor cannot revoke these freedoms as long as you follow the license terms.
Under the following terms:
  • Attribution — You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.
  • Non Commercial — You may not use the material for commercial purposes.

This mean that Wikipedia, and Commons too, can use it without any problem and this sentence which I added are just general warnings for those who has idea to made a poster, use it commercially and so on, part of the picture which can be against TO2015 licensing, because pictures are from that event, can not do it (or to say "O I didn't know it). This is for purpose of savings headache for commons and myself. That is all.----László (talk) 23:29, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply – I love your photos and I hope very much we can use them, but I'm quite sure you can't upload pictures here with any sort of non-commercial licence. You will need to drop the disclaimer or they will quickly get taken down. Målfarlig! (talk) 11:53, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, looks ok----László (talk) 20:51, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Football at the 2015 Pan American Games – Women's tournament[edit]

User:Laslovarga has uploaded some great photos to Category:Football at the 2015 Pan American Games – Women's tournament. Unfortunately although they are uploaded with a CC-SA-4.0 license they also have the disclaimer "The use of such (this) photographs for advertising or any other commercial purpose, in any medium or in any manner whatsoever, is expressly prohibited by TO2015 unless the prior written consent of TO2015 is acquired". I asked László here if he could clear up the apparent contradiction. I am not sure whether his disclaimer is ineffective, or whether the free use license is invalid. I hope it's the former (photos are really good) but suspect it's the latter! Please advise, yours etc. Målfarlig! (talk) 19:22, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please, see Commons:Non-copyright_restrictions#.22House_rules.22 and Commons:Copyright_rules_by_subject_matter#Museum_and_interior_photography. Ruslik (talk) 19:30, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So... the licenses are okay then? Great, thanks Målfarlig! (talk) 19:38, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, basically the licenses are ok. Ruslik (talk) 19:45, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with Ruslik, I think these files will have to be deleted unless Laslovarga is willing to remove the non-commercial restriction from his uploads. I, of course, agree that Commons is not a party to the contract between TO2015 and Laslovarga that requires him to limit his uses of these photos to non-commercial uses, so if he had chosen to ignore his agreement with TO2015 and chosen to not include the additional NC restriction we could accept these files. However, his addition of the restriction to the files is not compatible with the CC-BY-SA-4.0 licenses he has assigned to these files. We routinely delete files with this sort of additional restriction in the description (e.g. we delete files with CC licenses that the author places "for use on wikipedia only" in the description, etc.). —RP88 (talk) 21:57, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi guys; Thanks for honest opinion and sugestions. If you decided to delete these files that is ok with me. If not great! I think that there is also room for our licencing improvement and made Wikimedia Commons easier place for making contributions. Anyway cheers for all. Thanks----László (talk) 13:02, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I do not see where Laslovarga imposed any additional restrictions on the use of these files? I have read several times and I found none. Please, point me to exact words where Laslovarga as the copyright owner bans non-commercial use of these photos. Ruslik (talk) 13:25, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The statement on the file pages may still be inaccurate. It implies that 3rd-parties are somehow restricted from using the photos commercially, but I'm not sure that there are any grounds for thinking that. "The use of such (this) photographs for advertising or any other commercial purpose, in any medium or in any manner whatsoever, is expressly prohibited by TO2015 unless the prior written consent of TO2015 is acquired." If there is special legislation that would allow this claim to be enforced in a particular country, then it should be mentioned, otherwise I'd say the claim can just be deleted. --ghouston (talk) 22:35, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think these words were reproduced from the ticket. Ruslik (talk) 20:11, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi; No, those words are not from ticket. Also I have great pictures from other Pan American Games sport events as volleyball, handball, beach valleyboll, gimnastics and so on which I am villing to publish, release and share under CC, but I am waiting for decesion of you guys what is going to happen with these already uploaded pictures. Thanks----László (talk) 14:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Laslovarga, is it your intention to restrict these photos of yours to non-commercial uses? If not, can you comfortably say "I, as the copyright holder to these photos, am willing to authorize third-parties to use these photos for commercial purposes"? Because if you can't can't say that, then you shouldn't place a CC-BY-SA-4.0 license on your photos. —RP88 (talk) 15:07, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
To be "free", copyright cannot be used to restrict commercial use of the photos. If you agree to a CC-BY or CC-BY-SA license, then you are okaying the commercial use of the photos (provided you are named as the author and the license acknowledged, and if the latter license then derivative works must be licensed the same way). "Commercial use" does not mean in the sense publicity rights of any of the pictured people of course (those rights still apply in full), but if they say make a calendar using your photos, that would be OK. So, the question is what does that phrase mean. If you are making that a condition of the copyright, then that is a modified CC-BY-SA license, and is not free. If that was a part of your photographer's contract with TO2015, then technically it is OK, but you may be opening yourself up to contractual issues if someone else makes use of the photo (since only you are a party to that contract, and you made such use possible). You cannot enforce those terms on others unless you use your rights as copyright owner, which would then make that clause part of the copyright license, and make it non-free. That is why folks here would be more comfortable simply removing the clause altogether; if you are not comfortable with that, then we may indeed have a copyright issue. Now... I'm not sure if TO2015 inherently has some publicity rights over the event, and the clause is simply reminding people of that. Or if athletes need to sign over some of their own publicity rights in connection with the event to TO2015, and the clause is reminding folks of that. It's not clear what "commercial use" means... if that is copyright commercial use, it's not OK, but if it is {{Personality rights}} "commercial use" or trademark "commercial use" then we can host the images. Those uses are more when you make money based off a person's reputation or likeness (particular in advertising contexts), and may well be what they are referring to. If so, those restrictions are inherent even if someone in the stands took a picture, and simply adding the personality rights tag as a reminder is enough. If on the other hand this is something based on a contract you signed, and you are trying to impose those same terms on others, then it's an issue here. We'd love to have the photos -- they look terrific -- but we must be very careful about the copyright. We should not expose re-users to any situations beyond which would normally exist. Carl Lindberg (talk) 15:22, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
After all these explanations I think that is the best that all my pictures from Pan American Games set where ever is disclaimer, we just delete. I am sorry if I cause some confusion but I can not release, because of contract agreement, pictures under commercial use license. Previously, where only copyright holder was me, I released great number of pictures and many are used in different websites commercial and noncommercial, even Britannica and some museums, and I was perfectly ok with that. Thank you for effort and patient and please delete those picture. Sorry again.----László (talk) 03:23, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry (for our sake), but perfectly understandable ;-) Yes, it would be quite legal for Wikimedia / Wikipedia to use those photos, as our use is not commercial. But we are also trying to provide content usable in a great many other situations -- that is what "free" is. It is a self-imposed policy, but one that is at the very foundation of Wikimedia. That is why we do not accept the CC-BY-NC licenses (which you probably could do). Quite understandably, it is often hard for professional photographers to post images here, for reasons like that. Glad we came to the right result for you... along with protecting re-users, the last thing we want is for anyone to get into trouble over uploading images and trying to help the project ;-) Thanks for taking the time to answer here, and work it through. Carl Lindberg (talk) 04:36, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks for your excellent contributions, but as you've requested I've nominated these photos for deletion. I nominated them for deletion by subcategory, so there are five DRs:
—RP88 (talk) 02:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Affected:

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Yours sincerely, —RP88 (talk) 02:02, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

File:2015 Pan American Games, Mexico vs Columbia - Laslovarga (90).JPG[edit]

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Affected:

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Affected:

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Yours sincerely, —RP88 (talk) 02:20, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Football at the 2015 Pan American Games – Women's tournament[edit]

Thanks for taking the time to contribute to the discussion at Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Category:Football_at_the_2015_Pan_American_Games_.E2.80.93_Women.27s_tournament. As you've requested (and as you can see above), I've nominated the photos with the non-commercial restriction for deletion. I did however, want to leave you a note saying that I appreciate your contributions to Commons. —RP88 (talk) 02:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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