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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful informations about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

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Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, Kazimier Lachnovič!
Tip: Add categories to your files
Tip: Add categories to your files

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Deprecated License[edit]

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There seems to be a problem regarding the description and/or licensing of this particular file. It has been found that you've added in the image's description only a Template that's not a license and although it provides useful information about the image, it's not a valid license. Could you please resolve this problem, adding the license in the image linked above? You can edit the description page and change the text. Uploading a new version of the file does not change the description of the file. This page may give you more hints on which license to choose. Thank you.

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File source is not properly indicated: File:Беларусы._Biełarusy._Belarusians.png[edit]

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Justass (talk) 22:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Трэба дадаць спасылкі на файлы, зь якіх створаны каляж. Wizardist (talk) 22:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Дзякуй! Зараз як раз іх зьбіраю. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 22:10, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, thank you for providing the source for images you used in collage. But some of them are nor {{PD-old}} nor covered by {{PD-BY-exempt}}. http://www.belarus.by/rel_image/1098 is from belarus.by website where all content is marked as copyrighted. http://vsu.by:8081/web_index/news/yakub_kolas/index.html is from the middle of last century and come from the website marked as © 2007 Бiблiятэка ВДУ. Файл:Olga-Korbut.jpg is uploaded to ru wiki under fair use rationale, Commons does allow fair use. Please replace or remove them. Thank you --Justass (talk) 22:22, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for explanation, I replaced all questionable files. Is everything ok now? --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 22:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thank you --Justass (talk) 22:41, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


File source is not properly indicated: File:Map Of Menskaja Voblasc.svg[edit]

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Evalowyn (talk) 15:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This engraving was created by unknown author in 17th century. It's obvious {{PD-old}}. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 16:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just give the URL of the source. It would be enough. No one wants this image to be deleted as well. Wizardist (talk) 00:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
На жаль, яно перастала працаваць. Калі выдаляць - нічога страшнага, усё адно я імя трохі пераблытаў (гэта насамрэч Войцех-Адальбэрт Радзівіл). Як сайт той запрацуе - загружу пад новым імём або папрашу перанесьці існую выяву. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 00:59, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Выяву можаш і сам перанесьці. :) Wizardist (talk) 01:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Здаецца, усё ж не магу сам (прынамсі такога пунтка ў мэню ня бачна), звычайна зьвяртаюся па гэта да EugeneZelenko. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 01:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Пасьля зоркі ідзе стрэлка, наводзіш на яе і там выкідное мэню. Voila. Wizardist (talk) 20:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Для выяваў (File:) у маім мэню толькі пункты: Global usage - Find categories - Log - Purge - en. Мабыць, у цябе больш правоў. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 22:06, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Józef Sapieha[edit]

To oczywisty błąd w Wilanowie. To dziecinny portret Józefa Sapiehy (1737-1792). Zofia Zielińska w haśle w Polskim Słowniku Biograficznym pisze o dziecinnych portretach pędzla Mirysa. pozdrawiam Mathiasrex (talk) 08:01, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This file is being used in w:Livonian War, which is up for featured article nomination. The reviewers require a thorough source for images - to prevent copyright problems and the like - and I was wondering if you could provide this on the file page? Things like where the information came from and the map data; if these aren't in the public domain or under a suitable licence then this could be problematic. What does "NN" mean? Thanks. Grandiose (talk) 16:23, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added more precisely file description and suppose that now all should be correct. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 21:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Напалеон Орда[edit]

Вітаю. Заўважыў, што вы пэрманэнтна дадаеце новыя файлы ў катэгорыю. Выдатна, але я тут зь нядаўняе пары вырашыў разгрэсьці завалы, у якіх усё адно патрэбны файл знайсьці было немагчыма, ды пачаў разносіць малюнкі ў падкатэгорыі паводле населеных пунктаў. Дык было б добра, каб вы правяралі, ці ня створаная ўжо катэгорыя па тым населеным пункце, малюнкі якога вы зьбіраецеся запампаваць, і калі так, то дадаваць файлы менавіта ў тую падкатэгорыю. Да таго ж можа стацца, што такі файл тамака ўжо існуе. :)

Ну а па-другое, якім чынам вы пераймяноўваеце файлы, цікава? ;) --Renessaince (talk) 19:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Вітаньне і дзякуй за ўпарадкаваньне катэгорыяў, бо ў асноўнай, сапраўды, назіраецца пэўная перагружанасьць. Буду надалей імкнуцца да больш дэталёвай катэгарызацыі. Што датычыцца зьмяненьня назваў файлаў, то існуе адмысловая старонка Commons:Requests for rights#Filemover, дзе трэба зьмясьціць запыт (можна паводле аналёгіі зь іншымі) на правы Filemover'а. Здаецца, у вас ужо дастаткова рэдагаваньняў. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 14:41, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Выдатна, калі дапаможаце ва ўпарадкаваньні. А ў такім разе як лічыце, ці варта яшчэ стварыць катэгорыі-пасярэднікі (паміж асноўнай і катэгорыямі паводле н. п.) для малюнкаў Орды паводле краінаў? То бок усе сучасныя беларускія населеныя пункты дадаць у катэгорыю Category:Paintings of Belarus by Napoleon Orda‎ і да т. п.? Таму што ўжо цяпер падкатэгорыяў 69, і гэта яшчэ далёка не мяжа. --Renessaince (talk) 14:58, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
На маю думку, шмат падкатэгорыяў - гэта ня так страшна, як шмат выяваў :) Усё ж, дзякуючы ўпарадкаванасьці назваў, арыентавацца ў такім выпадку значна прасьцей. Таму глядзіце самі, ці варта ствараць катэгорыі-пасярэднікі для краінаў. Засмучвае хіба той факт, што ў часы стварэньня работаў сучасных граніцаў не існавала. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 15:14, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Кайзэраўскія фота беларускіх мястэчак[edit]

Не жадаеце заняцца запампоўкай? Мяне пакуль хапіла толькі на Пружану, і толькі на першую старонку. --Renessaince (talk) 07:46, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Дзякуй за спасылку. У мяне тут такая пазыцыя: запампоўка гэта, вядома, добра, аднак яшчэ лепей, каб запампаванае адразу ж ішло ў артыкулы, бо з уласнага назіраньня - рэдкі паспаліты чытач ідзе у commons па дадатковыя файлы. Дарэчы, на наступных старонках памянёнага рэсурсу шмат якія паштоўкі зь першай паўтараюцца, таму ў будучыні можна будзе ўсё хуценька загрузіць. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 18:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Так, гэта ўсё зразумела. Адно толькі блага, што гэта онлайн-аўкцыён, а яны, як вядома, маюць асаблівасьць сканчацца ці быць выкупленыя… --Renessaince (talk) 06:05, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Як варыянт, найбольш цікавыя паштоўкі можна сьцягнуць сабе на дыск. Але мне падалося, што менавіта на тым аўкцыёне, у адрозьненьні ад allegro.pl, яны захоўваюцца даволі працяглы час. У кожным разе, я імкнуся ставіцца да ўсяго гэтага па-філязофскі: не пасьпеў - значыць, іншым разам пашчасьціць :) --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 13:28, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Alaksandar Zasłaŭski. Аляксандар Заслаўскі.jpg[edit]

Мої шанування! Завантажений вами файл насправді є портретом данціґського міщанина з відомого сайту. --Bulka UA (talk) 22:43, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Вітаю! Шкода, але це дійсно не Заславський. Виправив назву файлу, опис та посилання. Дякую, що написали. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 23:12, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Color and brightness correction[edit]

И верно, цвет портретов изменился, но перемены связаны не с тем, что позировали покойники, а с тем, что белый цвет стал белым вместо желтого, увы, но это общее свойство старых картин (они желтеют, и чем старше - тем желтее), кроме того большинство сканирующих систем искажают цвета, что тоже следует учитывать. "Естественный" загар не изображался на картинах - персонажей писали с выбеленными, т.е. красивыми лицами. Корректура цвета производилась типовая (без обрезания гистограммы, что не приводило к потере графической информации) в результате которой выравнивался черный цвет (он утрачивал оттенки и становился черным), а также белый цвет, который утрачивал желтизну (т.е. дефицит синего и частично зеленого цвета), см. File:Hanna Prušynskaja (Kamaroŭskaja). Ганна Прушынская (Камароўская).jpg, File:Stanisłaŭ Prušynski. Станіслаў Прушынскі (XVIII).jpg. Но это исторические портреты. Но есть исторические марины и пейзажи, см. File:Trafalgar1.jpg, File:Santodomingo.jpg, на которых (если Вы посмотрите их прежние неисправленные версии) тоже все было желтым, лазурное море и синее небо были бурыми. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 17:01, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Разумеется, что Ваши дополнительные усилия по коррекции цветовой гаммы я могу только приветствовать. Что касается "омолаживания" - прежняя, неомоложенная версия продолжает оставаться доступной в истории файла. Естественно, что некоторые цветовые эффекты могут и должны быть, увы, результатом разности настоек мониторов. Но, подчеркиваю, я гистограмму не обрезал, потому ни один оттенок не был потерян, а потому всегда возможна дальнейшая коррекция. А вот вопрос о том, на сколько корректно улучшать цифровое изображение - это серьезный вопрос. Для себя я решил его так: изображения лучшего качества имеют большую познавательную, иллюстративную и потому энциклопедическую ценность. Ведь посмотрите, сколько цифровых преобразований было произведено над File:Miensk. Менск (XIX, II).jpg? Я вот со своей стороны попытался решить непростую задачку устранения муара - и, честно говоря, принял решение оставить этот муар на своем месте (преобразовав, естественно, из цветного в grayscale). Но существующий вариант также приемлем. Кстати, только сейчас вспомнил, что недели две назад в качестве избранного на Коммонз было номинировано изображение Джоконды, с которого были убраны все трещинки (что, согласитесь, еще большее "омоложение", не так ли?). Bogomolov.PL (talk) 19:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Да, и еще вопрос: есть вот такое изображение 1700x2961 pix есть ли смысл грузить его как альтернативу File:Janusz Radziwiłł (1612–1655).jpg? Bogomolov.PL (talk) 19:40, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Да, я не мог не заметить то, что недостатки письма стали заметнее, но (если следовать этой логике), то чем хуже качество файла, то тем меньше заметны дефекты картины (трещины, засветы, тени, недостатки художественного письма). И о гамма-коррекции: разумеется ее приходится делать для каждой спектральной полосы отдельно, но уже после отсечения пустых участков гистограммы (слева и справа). Bogomolov.PL (talk) 19:45, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Да я тоже предполагал, что многопиксельная версия хуже той, что была Вами загружена как ее альтернатива. Но я хотел, чтобы Вы подтвердили мое мнение - я попытался что-то сделать с многопиксельной версией и пришел к выводу, что вариант без изначального муара (продукта сканирования полиграфической репродукции) все же предпочтительнее.
      • Что касается [1] - то это не "удачная цветокоррекция", а полное ее отсутствие. Изображение темное, тени не читаются. И оно, естественно, "желтое". Понимаю, что гепатитные лица, руки, воротники, платки, документы, паруса, облака и пр. являются привычными, однако такая цветовая гамма, увы, не позволяет судить о том, каков был цвет одеяний, драпировок и пр. Именно информативность таких изображений минимальна, как мне думается. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 21:06, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • Да нет же никакого "эталона белизны лиц": просто расширяется гистограмма на весь диапазон - и только-то. То есть максимальные значения гистограммы устанавливаются на 255, а минимальные на 0 в каждой спектральной полосе. В результате белесый цвет лиц проявляется сам (как облаков на пейзажах). Тут не ставится задача "выбелить лица" - результат в свое время меня самого удивил, хотя в ряде случаев лица все равно не белые. Гамма-коррекция производилась для того, чтобы повысить яркость теней, проявить детали в тенях изображения. Но делалось это осторожно, так как усиление яркости могло бы спровоцировать исчезновение деталей в светлой части гистограммы.
        • Что касается недавно отреставрированного портрета, пример которого Вы приводите. Белыми на нем являются лебедь в гербе, а не лицо. Но лицо розовато-телесного цвета, а не желтое. Только не следует путать гистограммные преобразования с реставрацией, не стоит обижать художников-реставраторов и сравнивать их с ремесленниками от гистограмм. Если же все же говорить о гистограмме - то там максимальные значения приходятся на самые яркие части картины, но это не лицо, а герб. Только эти самые яркие части и могут быть белыми, не так ли? Теперь о том цвете, который Вы считаете белым на исходнике File:Kryštap Radzivił. Крыштап Радзівіл.jpg - увы, но это обман тренированного мозга, это не белый, а желтый цвет (посмотрите в любом графическом редакторе, который позволяет читать спектральные коды пикселей), но который мозг велит воспринимать как "практически белый" только потому, что мозг ожидает для этой детали изображения именно белого цвета (я о плюмаже, естественно). Но еще раз повторю - настройки монитора могут тут влиять на восприятие. Единственное, что скажу, это то, что т.н. скорректрованный вариант не менее белый, чем исходный. А по мне так и более белый. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 22:38, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • Я пользуюсь программой IRas/C, но это сугубо профессиональная американская программа у меня с работы. В обыденной жизни ее не встретить.
          • Что касается Фотошопа - при обрезании гистограммы правильнее всего отдельно собрать гистограмму с самого темного участка изображения (пусть и не очень большого) и обрезать до самого темного, также поступить и с белым - надо выбирать самый яркий участок картинки. При этом следует учитывать, что, скажем, ярко красное епископское одеяние или какой-нибудь бант в своей спектральной зоне может быть самым ярким. На одном из изображений я собирал гистограмму с ярких рефлексов на декорации булавы. При этом всегда надо проверять по лицу - чтобы не появились монотонные участки на лице - это делает его неинформативным и плоским. Вообще появление монотонных участков на изображении должно настораживать - значит что-то не то было сделано.
          • Теперь о Вашем первом опыте - "разумеется, что Ваши дополнительные усилия по коррекции цветовой гаммы я могу только приветствовать", я уже Вам об этом говорил. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 05:31, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
            • Вернулся с дачи весь в аллергии. Я не в Фотошопе работаю, потому по фотошопу я не спец. Но в тех программах, в которых я работаю, есть возможность получить гистограмму произвольной области изображения (как обойти это ограничение в Фотошопе - может надо тщательнее его изучить, а может достаточно скопировать интересующий участок в отдельный слой и взять гистограмму для него, а по ней определить точные границы динамического диапазона для основного изображения).
            • Относительно "потери информации" - потеря (разрушение) информации происходит при неверном обрезании гистограммы (выборе динамического диапазона таким, что часть оттенков в самой яркой части и в самой темной части изображения утрачиваются и заменяются соответственно 255 или 0). Изменение "среднего" значения, которое и задает кривизну передаточной функции (а по умолчанию она просто линейная) - процесс более творческий и как следствие - не всегда объективный (в частности из-за свойств конкретного монитора, на котором Вы или я наблюдаем результат), но по настоящему следует признать, что творческая процедура восстановления колорита без нелинейных преобразований обойтись не может. Но возьмете ли Вы на себя такую смелость? Вам решать.
            • Я уже вполне ясно выразил свое отношение - если Вами созданный вариант лучше, то, естественно, его и следует загрузить. Мы же для людей стараемся, а не для удовлетворения каких-то личных амбиций. Я (да и все мы) моue только приветствовать конструктивную помощь. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 15:26, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
              • Sure. Мне на днях даже приходилось ревертировать чрезмерные цветокоррекции. Вы, естественно, в полном праве поступать аналогичным образом, либо предлагать собственные цветокоррекции взамен сделанных мною. Вы сами, полагаю, решите то, где следует ревертировать, где улучшить. (Вот одна из последних моих загрузок File:Eldar Gasimov 2011 cropped.jpg - цветокоррекция была совершенно необходима. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 14:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Гарадзец[edit]

Усё-ткі не даюць мне спакою вось гэтыя выявы: File:Haradziec-pałac.jpg і File:Haradziec. Гарадзец (J. I. Krašeŭski, XIX).jpg пяра, так бы мовіць, «рыцара пяра». Ці вы ўпэўненыя на ўсе 100%, што на іх сапраўды выяўлены палац у вёсцы Кобрынскага раёну? Ня ведаю, ці бываў там Крашэўскі… А вось у вёсцы на Валыні ён некалькі рокаў мешкаў у гасьцёх і тамака ж вянчаўся. Не памятаю дзе, але пры жаданьні можна адшукаць у інтэрнэце згадкі, што гэтыя выявы ўсё ж напісаныя з палацу ва ўкраінскай вёсцы. А яшчэ раней сустракаў, здаецца, нават іхнюю атрыбуцыю да маёнтку Крашэўскага ў Гарадку, але тады адкінуў быў гэтую вэрсію як памылковую. Цяпер жа ўжо перакананасьці наконт Кобрыншчыны паменшала. --Renessaince (talk) 16:08, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Цяпер ня ўпэўнены. Увогуле, зьвесткі пра тое, што гэта наш палескі Гарадзец я ад пачатку ўзяў адсюль і адсюль. Трэба высьвятляць. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 09:25, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Здесь явно много того, что может Вас заинтересовать. Bogomolov.PL (talk) 22:38, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Спасибо, действительно очень хороший источник. Пользовался, пока было время. Сейчас там вроде технические работы — может, после их завершения еще что-нибудь интересное выложат... --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 14:23, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Фото каплицы, подписанное как "Лахва", скорее всего, изображает каплицу в Кожан-Городке[edit]

Фото каплицы, подписанное как "Лахва", скорее всего, изображает каплицу в Кожан-Городке.

Старое фото каплицы в "Википедии": http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C5%81achva._%D0%9B%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%B2%D0%B0_(S._Bochnig,_XX).jpg

Фото 2007 г. на "Глобусе Беларуси": http://globus.tut.by/kozhan-gor/roadch_gallery.htm (Если внешние ссылки запрещены местными правилами, зайдите, пожалуйста, на сайт "Глобус Беларуси", в разделе "Брестская область" выберите "Кожан-Горожок", пролистайте соотв. страницу до "часовня придорожная" и нажмите на ссылку "Фотогалерея".)

Вероятно, то же самое относится и ко второй каплице: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C5%81achva._%D0%9B%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%B2%D0%B0_(S._Bochnig,_1929).jpg На "Глобусе Беларуси" см. в Кожан-Городке "часовня правосл. св. Симеона Столпника".

Действительно, первая часовня очень похожа. Но привязку к Лахве дает сама Fototeka Instytutu Historii Sztuki UJ (http://www.fototeka.ihs.uj.edu.pl/navigart/navigart/select?id=search&content=%C5%81achwa). В любом случае, спасибо за информацию. Было бы неплохо проработать вопрос и наверняка определить локализацию снимков. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 19:44, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Trocki zamak. Троцкі замак (J. Marszewski, 1866).jpg[edit]

Hi, can you please explain why are you uploading files from different sources in some strange names? It would be fair to use English version if not the original (as named in the webpage), e.g. why a painting of a Lithuanian Castle from Polish website should be named in be-tarask? BurgererSF (talk) 16:40, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Belarusian is one of the Wikipedia's languages and Troki castle (which wasn't "Trakai castle" in 19th century, at least in official) is an important part of Belarusian history. So, there is nothing strange in usage this language. And Commons is a multilingual project, so there's no reason to favor English over other languages. In addition there are no mentions about any desirable connection between file name and current file source, which could be changed in future. So, please, stop changing the language of the file names and deleting its titles in Belarusian. By the way you could upload another version of the file under the name chosen by yourself. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 19:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Вікі любить Землю, 1–31 травня / Wiki Loves Earth, May 1–31, 2014[edit]

Вітаємо!

З 1 по 31 травня 2014 буде проходити конкурс «Вікі любить Землю», метою якого є фотографування пам'яток природи. Цього року конкурс став міжнародним. Зі списками пам'яток природи України можна ознайомитися тут. Приєднуйтеся!

Більше інформації про конкурс читати тут. – Оргкомітет «Вікі любить Землю» (in english) 20:55, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


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Actually there is no sound prove that this image is copyvio, so usage of quick deletion template is incorrect. The author of www.rpp.nm.ru places own watermark on every image, even obvious PD-old-100 (i.e. here). --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 18:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)--Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 18:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Абраз Маці Божай Барунскай[edit]

У Маці Божай Барунскай Дзіця павінна быць на левай руцэ. --JerzyKundrat (talk) 10:21, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Паправіў. Дзякую за ўдакладненьне. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 18:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)--Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 18:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Autor zdjęć// аператар[edit]

Добры дзень

Ён выкарыстоўваецца мілорд фатаграфіі з блога http://zadarnowo.blogspot.com Гэта фота: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kobry%C5%84,_Bazylanskaja._%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BD%D1%8C,_%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F.jpg

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блог http://zadarnowo.blogspot.com/2012/03/zdjecia-sprzed-ii-wojny-swiatowej.html

1) Гэта прыватныя фота. Я не памятаю, што ён прасіў Госпада, ці могуць яны быць даступныя пад вольнай ліцэнзіяй на Wikimedia Common.

2) Ён даў Госпаду свой адрас блога ў якасці крыніцы малюнкаў. Але ён пісаў, што аператар невядомы. Гэтыя фатаграфіі зрабіў мой дзед Іосіф Zadarnowski. У кожнай фатаграфіі надпіс.

Калі ласка, запоўніце дадзеныя выявы аб імя аўтара - Іосіфа Zadarnowskiego, нарадзіўся ў 1914 годзе. Калі ласка, папытаеце дазволу, калі вы хочаце падзяліцца сваімі фатаграфіямі ў Вікіпедыі. Я магу зрабіць гэта ў адзіночку.

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Dzień Dobry. Czy Pani mógłbym pisać w języku polskim? Niestety automatyczne tłumacz znacznie zmienił sens. Rozumiem polsku znacznie lepiej niż piszę w nim. Przede wszystkim chciałbym przeprosić za załadowanie tych zdjęć. Wygląda na to, że Pani ma wszystkie prawa autorskie do nich. Dodałem informacje o autorze zdjęć i blogu. Teraz, jeśli Pani chce, mógłbym prosić o usunięcie tych zdjęć lub jeśli Pani zgadza się, że jest możliwe, aby zmienić licencję na jeden z pl:Licencje Creative Commons.
Just in case in English. Could you please write in Polish? Unfortunately automatic translator changed the meaning significantly. I understand Polish much better than I write in it. First of all I would like to apologize for uploading these photos. It looks like you have all copyright on them. I added information about author of photos and your blog. Now if you wish I could ask for removing of these photos or if you agree it is possible to change the license on any of pl:Licencje Creative Commons.
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Рагачоўскі замак[edit]

Вітаю. Калі be:Замак каралевы Боныbe:Рагачоўскі замак, тады варта разьдзяліць і катэгорыю ВікіСховішча? --Renessaince (talk) 19:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Вітаю. У Архітэктура Беларусі: Энцыклапедычны даведнік. — Менск: БелЭн, 1993. — 620 с.: іл. — ISBN 5-85700-078-5., сапраўды, два асобныя артыкулы: Рагачоўскі замак і Рагачоўскі палац. Аднак у ЭВКЛ перадрукавалі толькі артыкул Рагачоўскі замак. Таксама мяне трохі засмучвае, што паводле артыкула, пасярод Рагачоўскага замка стаяў мураваны палац. Думаю, можна падзяліць катэгорыі, прынамсі пакуль ня знойдуцца крыніцы, якія б аспрэчвалі такі падзел. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 12:45, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Пожалуйста, уточните источник файла File:Navahradak, Vilenskaja. Наваградак, Віленская (J. Bułhak, 1910).jpg. Сейчас там указано чьё-то имя ("Michał Rumiancaŭ"), что в качестве источника выглядит не вполне корректным. Насколько я знаю, это фото взято вот из этого издания, а значит автор и датировка требуют уточнения. --Kaganer (talk) 22:44, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Брал фотографию из блога данного человека. Теперь данный блог, по-видимому, не существует. В любом случае уточнил источники текущей и предыдущей версии файла. Что касается приведенного немецкого издания, то в нем присутсвует много фотографий, взятых из открытых к тому времени (опубликованных) источников. В том числе и авторства Яна Булгака. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 09:58, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Не вопрос. Когда берем из блога, нужно указывать ссылку, просто имени недостаточно. Что до немецкого издания - опять же, не спорю, но это конкретное фото взято именно из этого издания (и именно из этой оцифровки, судя по совпадению мелких дефектов). Я увидел вторую ссылку (спасибо за уточнение!) но там про датировку сказано "не позднее 1939 г.", а у Вас в названии фото "1910", а в карточке - "ранее 1911" ? Но этого быть не может никак, так как, насколько я понимаю, все видовые фото Булгака сделаны уж никак не ранее 1911 года (а скорее всего даже и позднее).--Kaganer (talk) 13:19, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Вот еще более надежный источник [2], где указано, что фото сделано до 1911 г. (сразу не вспомнил, т.к. дело было 4 года назад). По поводу ссылок на блоги: иногда просто не успеваю их проставлять, да и живут многие ссылки не больше года. Поэтому иногда указание названия проекта или архива (коллекции) какого-либо конкретного человека может быть ничем не хуже для того, кто хочет докопаться до оригинала файла. В любом случае согласен, что чем больше информации в описании - тем лучше. Но к сожалению, у меня на такую детализацию не всегда хватает времени. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 15:45, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Про ссылки на блоги - я даже не про доступ к оригиналу (хоть я и за, всеми руками). Просто за точность атрибуции - если блог, так и нужно написать "блог такого-то". Потому что просто имя с фамилией могут означать самые разные вещи. --Kaganer (talk) 17:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Про источник датировки обсуждаемого фото - ну да, так лучше. Я сначала смотрел только в русскую версию биографии, и из нее понял так, что он начал заниматься фотографией чуть ли не в 1911 году. А на самом деле, конечно, раньше. А вот кстати - то, что одна из фотографий отзеркалена, нас совсем не смущает? --Kaganer (talk) 17:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Два снимка с похожего ракурса: File:Navahradak, Vilenskaja. Наваградак, Віленская (1905).jpg и File:Navahradak, Vilenskaja. Наваградак, Віленская (T. Boretti, 1900).jpg (кстати говоря, тот самый случай, когда привязка названий файлов к улице помогает легко найти похожие ракурсы). А вот "увеличение" левого фрагмента с замком: File:Navahradzki zamak. Наваградзкі замак (1920).jpg. На переднем плане (правее) - башня Щитовка, далее (левее) - башня Костельная. Они хорошо различимы и на отзеркаленном фото. Таким образом, в книге ошибка. К сожалению, таких ошибок немало даже в авторитетных источниках, в том числе и с датировкой, и с подписями. Порой приходится целые "расследования" проводить, чтобы более-менее докопаться до истины. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 18:03, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Это был намек на то, что и на указания по датировке в этой книге тоже опираться если и можно, то с какими-то оговорками. --Kaganer (talk) 22:05, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Про названия файлов[edit]

Пожалуйста, никогда не делайте таким вот образом:

То есть не следует делать настолько похожие имена файлов, добавляя бессмысленные точки и пробелы. Обычно можно дать уникальное описательное название, но даже если это серия, относящяяся к одному объекту, то всегда можно это явно обозначить, дав в явном виде нумерацию:

Здесь есть ещё один момент. Если датировка файла неизвестна, то неправильно указывать в названии конкретный год. Это путает тех, кто ленится заглядывать в описание или вообще не знает, как это сделать.--Kaganer (talk) 23:23, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Не против нумерации и развернутой датировки (где это смотрится гармонично, как в приведенном примере), хоть на мой вгляд, и существующий вариант не противоречит текущим правилам. Однако по возможности постараюсь учесть данную рекомендацию при загрузке новых файлов. Также не буду против исправления точек и пробелов на номера в уже существующих файлах. К сожалению, по моим подсчетам количество таких файлов уже перевалило за тысячу. Только при этом прошу оставлять основное название без изменения: привязка к названиям улиц, местности и прочим урбанонимам (т.е. фактически адресная привязка) вполне имеет право на существование и не подпадает под действующие критерии. Благодарю за упорядочение категории с историческими изображениями Новогрудка. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 09:41, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Если на фото явно выделяется один основной объект, имеющий общеупотребительное название (как дом воеводы), то разумно и уместно указывать именно его, а не абстрактный перекресток. Вообще, названия файлов (где изображен конкретный дом) в виде указания только улиц (да еще с повтором на нескольких языках) крайне неудобны для дальнейшего использования. Я не буду за это биться, но лично я считаю их не отвечающими рекомендации давать файлам "описательное" название. Само дублирование на нескольких языках также считаю излишним (почему на этих, а не на других?). Всё это должно быть в карточке описания и в категориях. Совершенно нормально именовать файлы максимально лаконично - в данном примере, достаточно было бы "File:Наваградак, Кляштар дамініканак (Ян Булгак, 1930-39)", или то-же самое по-польски, если так удобнее.--Kaganer (talk) 13:26, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
А вот выносить в название фотографий названия улиц (если только на фото не общий вид данной улицы или перекрестка) - совершенно не нужно и ничем не оправдано. Привязка к улицам (даже упраздненным) должна идти через категории.--Kaganer (talk) 13:31, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
В любом названии есть нюансы: например, объект может за довольно короткий промежуток времени неоднократно менять свое предназначение. Вообще, указание адреса (пусть даже в виде перекрестка или улицы) вполне имеет право на существование, т.к. тоже описывает изображение. А вот уже какой вариант лучше/нейтральнее, то POV в Commons не действует, видимо, как раз таки чтобы избегать "битв" с переносами файлов. Что касается языка, то он в моих названиях на самом деле один - белорусский, что также вполне имеет право на существование, т.к. изображения относятся к Беларуси, истории Беларуси, этнической территории белорусов и т.п. Просто в белорусском языке (как и, к примеру, в сербском) есть две графические системы - латиница и кириллица. Использование обеих систем как минимум упрощает поиск изображений на белорусском языке (особенно через поисковые системы) и также не противоречит ограничениям (название занимает не более 240 бит). Продвижение белорусского языка в том числе и таким образом мотивирует меня загружать больше файлов, что способствует развитию проекта в целом. На мой вгляд, все вполне гармонично и не противоречит правилам проекта. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 16:01, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Я же написал, что не буду за это бороться (только лишние точки и пробелы уберу) ;)
Но хочу всё-таки заметить вот что. Названия файлов - это всегда результат некоторого технического соглашения: главное, чтобы название достаточно точно отвечало объекту, оно не должно быть всеобъемлющим. Для удобства дальнейшего использования в статьях, названия должны быть максимально короткими, не теряя при этом описательности. А всю красивую многоязычность и/или сочетание различных систем письма, и/или богатую историю объекта можно и нужно помещать в многоязычное описание (файлов и категорий), что для задач поиска подходит ничем не хуже (ибо описания отлично индексируются). Но когда множество файлов названы практически одинаково, а по факту изображены на них совершенно разные объекты - это неудобно. Это я как пользователь пишу. Давайте представим, что такие файлы собраны в галерею в какой-то статье, и вот мы смотрим на этот код в режиме редактирования, и пытаемся понять, где там что. Да, это не фатально, можно пережить - но ради чего? Наверняка еще кому-то это покажется неудобным, и он тоже решит переименовать что-то, увидит всю серию и придёт сюда в обсуждение с теми же вопросами ;). И так раз за разом... --Kaganer (talk) 16:58, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Вот и хорошо, что борьбы не будет. Лучше больше потрачу времени на загрузку и поиск "новых" старых изображений. Думаю проект от этого только выиграет.
Возможно, но пока что за 8 лет такой вопрос возник впервые. Именование изображений - это на самом деле нетривиальная задача. Нюансов достаточно много и каждый конкретный случай следует рассматривать индивидуально. В конце концов любое название всегда можно просто скопировать в статью. Те же китайские иероглифы, арабская вязь или какой-либо другой экзотический для Европы алфавит даже в случае передачи довольно лаконичного имени совершенно неинформативен для европейского пользователя. Те же названия на кириллице - не понятны и даже более того - не различимы, к примеру, для англоязычного пользователя. Таким образом, удаление из имени латиницы снижает различимость для пользователей языками с латинским алфавитом, удаление кириллицы - ухудшает эффективность поиска на широко распространенной кириллице (проверено опытным путем, что названия файлов индексируется поисковиками лучше, чем описания - результаты выводятся выше). Вот если длина имени превышает допустимую - тогда да, следует чем-то жертвовать. В общем, ни в коем случае не претендую на абсолютную истину, но мне кажется, что сообщество не зря ограничилось довольно небольших набором критериев для переименования файлов. И если имя напрямую не подпадает под эти критерии, то на мой взгляд, лучше потратить время на улучшение тех же описаний, категоризацию или просто загрузку новых файлов под более красивыми и лаконичными именами. Сейчас количество изображений одного и того же объекта стремится к бесконечности, поэтому обойтись без нумерации в скобках все равно не удастся) --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 18:41, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Я для себя когда-то решил вопрос уникальности имён файлов следующим образом - я считаю, что в названии должен быть отражён "хронотоп" ("что-где-когда") и атрибуция (авторство). Обычно этого достаточно в большинстве случаев для достижения уникальности имён файлов с изображением одного и того же объекта (что-нибудь из вышеперечисленного да отличается). --Kaganer (talk) 22:03, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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こんにちわ。意味ですかご説明お願いします。この学校の投稿は出典追加にした方が追加しました!この日を2回もよろしいでしょうかご説明いたします後直ぐに飛ぶようになったため日本語を消去を使ってみないと思うのですかご説明お願いします後直ぐについてしまった呪文がいいでしょうか?と思われるかもしれませんが追加してもよろしいでしょうか?--60.139.47.212 14:22, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Thank you for uploading File:Barysaŭ, Biarezina. Барысаў, Бярэзіна (S. Prokudin-Gorsky, 1911).jpg.

I notice there are two versions with some differences. Obviously, the second version is a higher resolution scan. (Hence the upload summary that says "quality"?)

But there are other changes. The first upload shows colour artifacts where things moved between the three colour exposures. (e.g. the leaves on the trees)

The second image does not have these artifacts. Does this mean it has been retouched or edited?

Thanks,

Ubcule (talk) 19:16, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You are right. The current version is restorated original photo. All colour artifacts were removed during digital restoration. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 19:24, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the info.
Did you make the changes yourself, or did someone else?
The colour artifacts were an integral part of the original image. So although the changes are an improvement aesthetically, it should still be marked as a modified or retouched version.
I think it makes sense to have both the original version and the retouched version available under different filenames.
All the best,
Ubcule (talk) 20:11, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, it was Ходаковский Константин and Ходаковский Владимир (from file description). It makes sense. So I uploaded the original version under another name. But I don't know an appropriate template to mark modified version. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 20:40, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You can use the {{Modified}} template to show an image has been modified. The only problem is that it doesn't appear to support more than one language...(?)
I renamed the images to make clearer which one's the original, but I'd guess that's enough. I don't have a problem with the modified version now that it's clearly marked.
Thanks for the uploads! Ubcule (talk) 22:40, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Edit; I wasn't clear above, but I already added {{Modified}} to the modified version. Ubcule (talk) 23:05, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thank you. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 08:14, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unfair approach[edit]

Hello, I am finding your activities here harmful and unfair in some aspects. Despite being active in international environment (Commons), you are uploading files from Polish, Lithuanian and other websites under Belarusian filename and Belarussian description ‘’’only’’’. Of course I can understand that those files are connected to Belarus in some way, however it would be fair to copy original description and file source. It would be great if you could revise your approach. EhhhhhAGAGJKYJ (talk) 09:16, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, EhhhhhAGAGJKYJ. First, "harmful" is not relevant to what Commons really is. You have no rights to call my contribution harmful. Moreover I upload files not only under Belarusian names (i.e. [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9] etc.). Second, in my opinion "unfair" is to ignore Belarusian language uploading files relevant to Belarus, its people and history. But I don't call other uploaders contribution "hamrful". Anyway, I'll consider your asking in my new uploads or updating existing. But unfortunately I don't have much time to revise my existing contribution. So everybody could add any description or other details in any language. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 12:40, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Padśville, Kamienny Voz. Падсьвільле, Каменны Воз[edit]

(1921-39) - dlaczego taka data? To wprowadza w błąd. Ona NIC nie znaczy--keriM ([[User talk:Kerim44|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 09:08, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Taka data potrzebna żeby pokazać, co to zdjęcie datuje się na czas II RP. A jaka data będzie słusznej? --Kazimier Lachnovič ([[User talk:Kazimier Lachnovič#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 09:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

II RP powstała w 1918 i trwała do 1939. Data powstania koszar to czas na pewno PO 1924. W 1924 powstał Korpus Ochrony Pogranicza. Koszary mogły powstać w 1925? 1926? Nie wiem dokładnie--keriM ([[User talk:Kerim44|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 13:11, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Moze napisz w nawiasie właśnie (II RP)--keriM ([[User talk:Kerim44|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 13:14, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Dziękuję za dokładniejszy rok. Lata to lepsza informacja do wskazania. --Kazimier Lachnovič ([[User talk:Kazimier Lachnovič#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 14:24, 22 June 2018 (UTC)--Kazimier Lachnovič ([[User talk:Kazimier Lachnovič#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 14:24, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you...[edit]

... for all those great uploads of old postcards. I really enjoy to watch them. While going through i enrich them with transcriptions of the contained German texts. Hope that i will be able to watch them all. ;-) Just wanted to ask for a little improvement. Could you please either use a separate section for the license using == {{int:license-header}} == or to move it like here. Thank you again, --Arnd ([[User talk:Aschroet|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 17:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! It will be easier for me to copy == {{int:license-header}} == in the uploading form, so from now I will use a separate section for all my new uploads. Thank you for your contribution and good luck ;). --Kazimier Lachnovič ([[User talk:Kazimier Lachnovič#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 13:07, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, please use regular DRs unless there is a copyright violation. Also do not blank the image description page. Jcb ([[User talk:Jcb|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 02:13, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

kvr.kpd.lt[edit]

Можа ведаеце, але на сайце kvr.kpd.lt ёсць планы розных віленскіх будынкаў 19 ст., напрыклад, Rūmų kompleksas, vad. Chodkevičių --Чаховіч Уладзіслаў ([[User talk:Чаховіч Уладзіслаў|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 09:24, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Дзякую за інфармацыю. Раней на пляны неяк не зьвярнуў увагі. --Kazimier Lachnovič ([[User talk:Kazimier Lachnovič#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 10:11, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Autotranslate --Majora (talk) 21:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Yours sincerely, Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:56, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ping All listed files have the corresponding license tag {{PD-old-70}}, so I really don't see any allowed reason in {{No license}} and going to remove it. --Kazimier Lachnovič ([[User talk:Kazimier Lachnovič#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 15:04, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. Sometimes the software lists files as unlicensed even when they are not. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:41, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. No problem. --Kazimier Lachnovič ([[User talk:Kazimier Lachnovič#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 17:44, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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