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廣九直通車 (talk) 08:36, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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您好,請你看我發現你寫的「光華號」條目被合併,而提出合併討論的時間是4月20日,那一天正好是提名人在維基共享資源這裡對DR2700展開編輯戰。然而,我翻查光華號的編輯歷史,其實那條目早在2014年就建立了,你看:[1]。2014年至現在,算起來也將近十年,十年期間是無人疑問,但提名人的行事作風卻是無視維基百科光華號所寫,反而他自己宣稱說:「DR2700就是給光華號使用的車型」。

我不確定他是否因為編輯戰才跑去維基百科提出合併討論,但我知道我建立Kuanghwa_Express分類就是根據「光華號」條目。當時發生編輯戰的原因,就是那位提名人相信他自己查到的資料,可是維基百科「光華號」條目所寫的,其實並不是像他這麼說。因為光華號是載客服務時期 (1966年至1979年) 才出現,而且條目也有強調,光華號於1979年停駛後,只有在特定活動才會重新掛牌,這些在維基共享資源是有照片可以佐證的。遺憾的是,提名人始終堅持「DR2700等於是光華號」想法,所以我想找你指教。

我想請教的問題是:

  1. 如果按照提名人的想法來看,不管DR2700是否只在1966年至1979年期間營運使用,只要是該車的車款自1966年購買來台,即使是1979年停駛,在還沒被報廢之前,它的一生都是屬於光華號,這是對的嗎?
  2. 維基共享資源建立的DR2700分類是網羅所有以DR2700為編號的各種鐵路車廂與列車,當然也包含工程維修車 ( 例如這種 ),那麼請問光華號是否有僅限於客車?換個問題,DR2700被挪為工程車使用,這也能算光華號嗎?

以上二個問題,其實是與維基共享資源有關,因為它的答案牽動著DR2700Kuanghwa_Express之間的歸類問題。

儘管對方引用台灣後山鐵道風華一書,但憑他信口說他看過書中是怎麼寫,實際上全文是寫怎麼樣,其實我們並不知道,有沒有可能被他斷章取義,我們也不確定,所以我不敢貿然迎合他。因此我只能選擇維基百科,至少它是攤在陽光下,大家都能看得到,隨時可以接受檢驗,有問題也能在陽光下提出,只不過維基百科沒人反映,除了提名人他一個人跑來維基共享資源質疑,也不知道他是不是來找碴的。--125.230.68.104 11:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


我有後山鐵道風華。但我在半夜兩點翻遍了我家書庫還是間找不到,先說說個人意見。
光華號是車種名,DR2700是車輛型式,這兩個是不一樣的。就像自強號這個category,我覺得只要是與自強號有關的媒體資料都可放入,例如EMUs100,200,300,3000;TEMUs1000,2000;DRs2800,2900,3000,3100,這些車輛用於行駛自強號的時候,都可以放進去。但是今天如果出現一張DR3000型在屏東線行駛區間車時的相片,我覺得不是很適合;反過來說,這張照片就很適合放在DR2900/3000 的category,或是「台鐵柴聯車」。坦白說我實在看不懂那個爭執的邏輯。
我認為「光華號」的category,可以把1966-1979年的DR2700相片放進去,但1979年7月15日以後的DR2700不再以光華號之名行駛,除非是特別列車有headmark的相片,否則不應歸入「光華號」。另一方面,「光華號」的category,也可以放進LDR2300/2400行駛的光華號照片。
基本上是很簡單的邏輯集合問題。我是認為這問題不是在鄭仁崇怎麼寫。有諸多資料顯示台鐵的光華號包括西幹線DR2700行駛的班車,以及台東線由LDRs2300/2400行駛的班車。DR2700不等於光華號,光華號也不等於DR2700。
再說條目。關於台東線光華號與西幹線光華號合併的問題,我也沒多少意見;因為台東線當年也有行駛柴對快跟普通車,這兩個車種都沒獨立出來,所以把台東線光華號跟西幹線的光華號合併成一個條目,我覺得也是合理的。
但是DR2700那邊我就有不少意見,其實文筆我覺得並不好(這見仁見智;我是老人,不喜歡那些拖泥帶水的文字,也不喜歡那些跟題目無關的東西。我在討論有提到,希望將關於第一段柴油客車的簡史,移到其他條目)。查歷史可以看到,DR2700跟光華號條目雖然都不是我創的,但是在黎明期我參與很多。不過呢,舊的研究也不一定都是正確的,新的研究也許可以發現以前的不明之處並加以改正,這點我倒是沒有意見;不過把相片幾乎都換成現在靜態保存時的相片,有點像是把條目寫成個人著作,也不尊重以前曾經為這個題目出過不少力的人(DR2700條歷史中目的第位個編輯者Encino,如果我沒記錯的話,1990年代就是各BBS鐵道版的著名車輛研究專家)。不過既然已經變成了優良條目,現在又有不知道打哪來的在搞編輯戰,我就算了。我的青春跟時間不應該浪費在維基百科上。

Jaymyang (talk) 18:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


發現這裡有「後山鐵道風華」的全文。
1. 如果按照提名人的想法來看,不管DR2700是否只在1966年至1979年期間營運使用,只要是該車的車款自1966年購買來台,即使是1979年停駛,在還沒被報廢之前,它的一生都是屬於光華號,這是對的嗎?
我認為DR2700不等於光華號。光華號早就被台鐵取消了,但是車子還在,聽到很多人都叫他白鐵仔。不過的確在1980年代初期還有一些記者將北部區間柴對快發生的事故,直接用「光華號」代稱DR2700。
2.維基共享資源建立的DR2700分類是網羅所有以DR2700為編號的各種鐵路車廂與列車,當然也包含工程維修車 ( 例如這種 ),那麼請問光華號是否有僅限於客車?換個問題,DR2700被挪為工程車使用,這也能算光華號嗎?
改為工程車的車輛,應視為DR2700的改型或是衍生車種(個人傾向於歸為改型),不算光華號。
以上Jaymyang (talk) 04:11, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]