User talk:Gkml

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Hello! You had written: "No source that it is Gondi". I see some sources: [1], [2], [3]. Maybe they are not very reliable, but they exist... I'm not against such renaming: but it is a serious movement. We should be completely sure it is wrong identification, not only suspect it. Wieralee (talk) 17:43, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wieralee,
Since yesterday, the file has been renamed by Ruthven who found evidence that it was Mazarin : please see this talk page.
Nevertheless, the mistake was that of the person who initially included the file in the Commons and simultaneously asserted that this was « Cardinal de Retz » without any evidence. After that, many French sites used the wikipedia Commons to illustrate their page when speaking of Retz. Thus, such sources were not reliable.
This problem would have been easier to solve if the initial contributor had indicated that this was Cardinal Karol Wojtyla for example (!).
Best regards. --Gkml (talk) 12:48, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]