User talk:Erikven96

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File:2015 Tatiana Gelfand.jpg

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Yours sincerely, Ies (talk) 06:03, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Tatiana Gelfand.jpg

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 21:10, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Roger, I am brand new to Wikipedia and I am having a very hard time figuring out how this thing works from this side. So the picture was taken by Tatiana herself in her studio, and was given to me to be used in the article I am trying to create about her. (she's a theatrical and film director/playwright) This may not be the original pic, but this is what she gave me. The resolution is 640x640 and this is the only version I have, and I think it's perfectly enough for this particular purpose. If this is a problem I am sure she has other pics that are higher res. I thought Wikipedia was for anyone to work with, who can use a computer. I have no programming experience and I don't even understand most of the language used here. Like even though I understand the individual words, I have no idea what "attributed to the subject without mention of a timer" actually means. The text I copy/pasted into the description field was what I thought to be a copyright release text which popped up when I looked at this message thread earlier yesterday. In my desperate attempt to make sense of any of this I thought that it was the text I was required to put in the description field to save it from being deleted. So far it hasn't been deleted, which made me think it worked. I was trying to read the help files and the tutorials but when I didn't understand even the first two sentences, I have decided to go by trial and error, which is very frustrating and time consuming. I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.

Thank you for your comment, and if you have any advice on how I can make the vigilant protectors of Wikipedia believe that I am not infringing on anyone sacred birthrights, I'd love to hear it.

Erik Ven

Timer (whatever that means): 6:45am, on a sunny Friday in a Starbucks in Las Vegas --Erikven96 (talk) 14:12, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

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File:4838176 640x640.jpg

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De728631 (talk) 02:56, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Please do not reupload this image. We need permission by email coming directly from the copyright holder. This is most likely the original photographer and not Tatiana Gelfand, because copyright usually does not belong to the subject portrayed in a photo. Please see COM:OTRS on instructions how to send a permission by email. De728631 (talk) 03:00, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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RESPONSE to the message above----

Thank you for your message. Please note - In the past hour, Tatiana Gelfand - who is both depicted in and is the owner of the image - since it is a self-portait - has sent a release through the Interactive Release Generator to the email permissions-commons@wikimedia.org along with this image. This image is now in the Creative Commons Public Domain.

Please let me know if there is any further action that she or I need to take to have this image approved to the wiki article.

Thank you. --Erikven96 (talk) 03:25, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for reply. Once the permission email has been approved by our volunteers, the image will be restored. Due to a massive backlog, this may take up to 100 days though. De728631 (talk) 03:32, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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4nn1l2 (talk) 08:49, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Okay, so this is the fifth time this is happening even though we are carefully following your instructions:

I've been told to have the owner of the image (Tatiana Gelfand) issue a release through the Wikimedia OTRS release generator. She did exactly so on 7/6 and I have informed you of this here: "Thank you for your message. Please note - In the past hour, Tatiana Gelfand - who is both depicted in and is the owner of the image - since it is a self-portait - has sent a release through the Interactive Release Generator to the email permissions-commons@wikimedia.org along with this image. This image is now in the Creative Commons Public Domain.

Please let me know if there is any further action that she or I need to take to have this image approved to the wiki article.

Thank you. --Erikven96 (talk) 03:25, 6 July 2018 (UTC)"

Despite this, one of your full time picture deleters Responded this and deleted the picture nevertheless:

"Thank you for reply. Once the permission email has been approved by our volunteers, the image will be restored. Due to a massive backlog, this may take up to 100 days though. De728631 (talk) 03:32, 6 July 2018 (UTC)"

Then we Tatiana have received this message:

"Dear Tatiana Gelfand,

Thank you for your permission to use media files on Wikimedia Commons.

In order for us to process your contribution, we need to know the specific name or URL of the page on Wikimedia Commons to which you have uploaded it, or the user name used to upload.

If you have NOT yet uploaded, please continue to upload the file(s) and let us know when done.

Yours sincerely, Arthur Crombez"

Since at the time of this latest message the image was already deleted, following Arthur Crombez' advice I uploaded the image, and Tatiana sent him teh URL. Now you're again threatening to delete it.

I was wondering if this is the standard operating procedure here, or is there some kind of screwup going on on either side.

I am trying to comply but this is very frustrating and discouraging.

Please advise what kind of other hoops we need to jump through before you guys finally get settled and believe that no malicious world order threatening copyright infringement conspiracy is going on here.

Thank you

Erik --Erikven96 (talk) 14:59, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Even if the file is deleted, you still got the file name as can be seen in the red links above: File:4838176 640x640.jpg. And it is in fact our standard procedure that we delete images with an insufficient permission until our volunteer email department has given a clearance. Please do not upload this again. It will be restored once the permission has been settled. We are all volunteers here (no full-time personnel at all), so things may take some time. Apart from that, we get loads of images with fake licenses uploaded by impostors each day, so we need to assure that the copyright and licence is verified. This not a trivial matter but a legal requirement which in the end helps photographers to secure their rights. De728631 (talk) 15:56, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

OKay, but if one volunteer (Arthur Crombez) tells us to "In order for us to process your contribution, we need to know the specific name or URL of the page on Wikimedia Commons to which you have uploaded it, or the user name used to upload. If you have NOT yet uploaded, please continue to upload the file(s) and let us know when done." and the other one (you) is telling us "Please do not upload this again." who should we listen to? Thanks --Erikven96 (talk) 16:13, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood Arthur's sentence. He wrote: "If you have NOT yet uploaded the file..." That means "If you never uploaded it before, please do so now." But had uploaded the same image before twice, so that's why this advice was not valid any more. De728631 (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2018 (UTC)