User talk:Editor5807/Archive 3

Update

The Citaros left for GNE on Tuesday, in return for four DAF SB120/Wright Cadets for Bluestar. The Solos for the Binstead roadworks are still meant to be on the 4/38. The 4 has stopped interworking to/from route 8 for the roadworks.

I was over the other day, and happened to go through Gurnard and Northwood. The bus stops in Gurnard, Northwood and Cowes still have both 30 and 32 showing on the bus stop flags - which I thought was surprising as all the 29 ones around Havenstreet (except one which must have been missed) have been changed to remove the mention of the 29 (I wonder whether the Wootton ones have been changed...). Anyway, even more surprising is that the bus timetables at the stops still show route 30. It is up to date, as it's just the 1200 journey that runs via Rew Street and can go to Newport - despite the fact it was meant to have been renumbered 32 (that's the the SV and Wightbus timetable leaflets show). This leaves two questions:

1. What has gone wrong? Big lack of communications.
2. Does the bus depart with the number 30 on the front? (if it actually has a route number showing...)

It also means there is a chance to photograph the bus stops in Northwood still showing "30". I've photographed all the ones around Cowes and Gurnard, but never made Northwood sadly. Anyway, if you are in rather specific location of Wyatts Lane, then the stops there still have 30 on them!! Not sure about Oxford Street, as I didn't go along there, but it's probably unchanged. I know it's a bit off the beaten track, but I'd thought I'd tell you just in case. Actually the Oxford Street one is only a short distance from the route 1 bus stops on the main road. I hope to get a photo of the 27 along there one day. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:06, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I believe the bus does come into Newport with "30" on the front. I saw it the other day and thought it was a bit unusual but unfortunately wasn't in a position to get a photo at the time. I was in Wootton a few weeks ago and as far as I'm aware the bus stops in Wootton have been changed to blank Wightbus flags (at least the one in New Road has anyway) Thanks for the info about bus stops around Northwood and I'll take a look if I have chance soon. Infact I think there is even a Southern Vectis bus stop in Hunnyhill with the number 30 still on it, although it looks like this has been exposed due to a sticker being peeled off that was supposed to be covering it up!

Additionally and slightly off topic but I thought you might like to know that your image of 195 was used by the Labour Party on their leaflets delivered to all houses in Chale Niton and Whitwell for the by-election happening there on the 11th as part of a pledge by the Labour candidate to work for better bus services in the area. Editor5807^speak 22:26, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, would be good to get photographs of both Northwood and that stop. The Hunnyhill one must be quite old, presumably both the 28 and blank sticker have come off? I thought the Wootton ones would probably have been done. I need to go round there and look at the bus stops names, as I'm not sure the Traveline names are the same as the ones at the bottom of each timetable at the stop. If Wightbus get closed it will at least mean SV-standard info at all stops!

Interesting to know about my image being used, do you have a copy?! Fellow Wikipedian Quackdave had one of his images of an Arriva bus in Liverpool get published down here in Surrey! I've made VentnorBlog once I think: http://ventnorblog.com/2009/12/08/pixley-hill-decision-no-road-safety-audit-over-bus-7-route/ My personal favourite is that File:First Hampshire & Dorset 69398 2.JPG has made the Red Funnel website at http://www.redfunnel.co.uk/travel-connections/bus They haven't given me any acknowledgement but I don't really care. I do wonder why they chose a picture of a bus with rather prominent branding for the "zip" service - which is very Portsmouthy as you'll know. You'd have thought a Southampton image would have been a better choice! I just put your username in Google and your images are in quite a few places too, http://www.iknow-hampshire.co.uk/ especially so!

Have you survived the floods?! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:07, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

There's loads of them! Even a council report. I'm surprised at what a Google search can throw up! http://www.cherwell.gov.uk/media/pdf/p/7/P3Eco_Ltd_Report_Pt1.pdf Arriva436^{talk/contribs}

It's always nice to see images being used elsewhere off Wikimedia, which I suppose is the advantage on Commons from a more restrictive license on Flickr. With the flooding, I have managed to get a few photos around Ryde today of the tunnel at Ryde Esplanade still underwater, sandbags outside shops and houses and the boating lake over-flowing with water being pumped into the sea. Unfortunately yesterday I was working (outside!!) and then had to head over to Portsmouth in the afternoon so didn't manage any photos around the island with the weather at it's worst, although I did manage to get a photo of the rail replacement buses being run by Southern Vectis for Island Line at Ryde. Although looking at the weather for tomorrow, I may have a second chance!! Editor5807^speak 19:23, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Metadata

Just to confirm, is the Metadata on your camera set to exactly the right time? It's just that File:Wilts & Dorset 3155 R155 NPR 4.JPG is bemusing me, as the X7 is meant to leave Southampton on the hour, and the metadata says it arrived at the stop at xx47 - and I can't imagine the bus arriving on the stop that early. I'm thinking it was running very late, perhaps earlier a bus broke down, which would explain a Stonehenge bus being used. Nice pics of the flooding by the way, if you have any more, do you reckon there's enough for a category? Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:06, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I've just double-checked, the metadata on my camera is exactly right. I thought it must be as I often use it as a guide to the time when I'm out and about, and it was only the other week when I changed it to set it back an hour when the clocks changed, and I'd have noticed if it was wildly out. Also I was due to meet someone outside WestQuay at 17:00 but arrived early from the RedJet I caught so decided to kill the time by taking some photos. I'm guessing the X7 was running late as it wasn't there until 17:00 when it should have left if it was early, and as you said would explain why the Stonehenge Tour bus was being used. I had no idea it was an uncommon occurance at the time so I'm pleased I took a photo! Thanks for the photos of the flooding. Creating a category for it all sounds sensible as I do have a few more. I was thinking about it at the time but couldn't really decide on what to call it. Something like "Category:November 2010 flooding on the Isle of Wight" maybe? Editor5807^speak 23:37, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Cool, must have been running really late then, though for some reason that doesn't surprise me that much, don't know why, it just doesn't! Nice idea to take the photos, especially with the Bluestar buses wearing their poppies again. The suggested flooding name does sound good, but perhaps re-wording it to match "Snowfall of January 2010 on the Isle of Wight" might be better. Not sure really! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Wightbus demise and other stuff

You've probably already read it, but just in case... http://ventnorblog.com/2010/11/29/budget-cuts-wight-bus-proposed-to-stop-but-some-funding-available/ Quite sad really, though I have to say I won't miss Mercedes minibuses running on routes instead of actual buses! That's to say routes like the 27 even survive... Still, it might not happen in the end.

The two Citaros have left and are in service at GNE: http://www.nebpgne.fpic.co.uk/p68256030.html, http://www.nebpgne.fpic.co.uk/p68256012.html. Might be harder to get further images of these compared to the ones that went to Bluestar...!

The other Wilts & Dorset Optare Solo is now in use on the island, it should be on route 38. The one you've photographed on the 4 should be on the 4 mainly, but has made the 25.

Finally, I was wondering whether you have any photos of the temporary walkway at Ryde pier? Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 21:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

It is a shame about Wightbus although I thought it might happen when they announced a while ago that it's future was under consideration, especially now Southern Vectis have all the school services. Lots to get photographed before next year! Some of the more rural areas could be harder to get to though.

I've seen the Solos around a few times and do have a couple of pictures to upload. Funily enough I've just uploaded File:Wilts & Dorset 2631 S631 JRU and 2632 S632 JRU.JPG showing them both together in Newport which I was quite pleased about. Luckily route 38 was running a little behind time in addition to having a lot of waiting passengers at Newport allowing the 25 to go past.

I've got a number of photos of the temporary walkway plus all the repair work with the pier being almost completely stripped back so I'll try to get those up soon, as well as the work being done at the pier head on expanding the car park. Editor5807^speak 00:02, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

The once a day buses will be hard to get. The Dial-a-Ride will need getting too, I think hanging around at the main points should do the trick.

Good you've got photos of the walkway. It looks a bit dodgy to walk up - if waves were coming over the railway tracks when it all flooded it must have been quite scary walking up it! I imagine you have snow pics now as well?!! At least they propose stopping it from 31 August 2010 which gives the whole of summer to get photos, though I think it might be best to start ASAP. At least route 32 has got a photo in just about every conceivable place except Northwood!! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 19:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

I have got some snow photos I'd like to upload. Unfortunately they'll be similar locations to February 2009 and January 2010 as once the bus stops there's only a limited distance I can go on foot! But this time I got around Whitwell, Ventnor Road and Whitwell Road into Ventnor, then onto upper Ventnor and finally Wroxall with some of views from the Downs which should be quite nice. I was thinking maybe images should be named as "File:(place) snow December 2010.JPG" as well with an increasing number of snow photos of the island...

I was thinking the same about Wightbus that it'll be best to start as early as possible and avoid a last minute panic. I'll probably do the easier access ones like route 39 and other urban locations during the Winter and save the rural ones for the Spring/Summer when I don't mind walking or waiting around for longer! Editor5807^speak 20:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. I've started to make a new table, at User:Arriva436/Bus changes 1, detailing what we have and haven't got. Feel free to add to it, and make any corrections to what I've done so far. I've included every point on the SV network map, plus specific points in towns (i.e. Ryde Bus Stn/Cross Street), so it does look a bit bad in that we haven't done a lot, when in fact we've have done maybe a bit more (i.e. we have a photo in Ryde. Anyway, hopefully it will all be done soon. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 20:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

OK that looks great and it gives a good idea of what we still have to do. Although I'm guessing its a mistake to have Rookley listed under route 2 and Merston under route 3? As well as route 39 it could also be good to list the Sandown Bay, Downs and Needles Tours. Unfortunately I've been quite busy at the moment but should have some spare time by the end of next week (hence my lack of edits) to get some good photos done. Editor5807^speak 00:01, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Good news

SV have announced their next service changes - and for the first time, it doesn't involve us having to take any photos! Not so good is that route 5 is going to only every 20 minutes, which is worse than pre-Go-Ahead if I recall correctly. I don't think Wightbus are changing anything...? Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 19:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'd seen the new timetables posted on the website and at least it's not all doom and gloom this time! Editor5807^speak 00:01, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Bad news

...Er, yeah, well the cuts. Do you think photos of the tourist information centres would be a good idea? They're all to be closed by this March so it's quite urgent. Also the other things being closed, like Waterside Pool at Ryde etc. We've got photos of the Floating Bridge signs saying foot passengers go free, so that's OK. I think it might be an idea (not urgently) to take photos of libraries if either of us pass one, in case anything happens to them. We could do the same with public toilets as well lol! And Wightbus is definitely going to end now. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:15, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

OK that sounds like a sensible idea. It shouldn't be too difficult to get photos of the tourist information centres so there's not too much to worry about there. I have some photos of Waterside Pool from last Summer and still some of the flooding we had in November with overflowing water being pumped into the sea which I still have to upload. I'll get any libraries/public toilets as I go past them and try to get as much of Wightbus as I can before the end of August. Looks like we've got a lot of work to do! Editor5807^speak 00:01, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

TICs should be fine, as should libraries. It would be nice to get libraries anyway, so we may as well do them. The IOW Council site says there's libraries at:

• Bembridge
• Brighstone
• Cowes
• East Cowes
• Freshwater
• Newport
• Niton
• Ryde
• Sandown
• Shanklin
• Ventnor

We've already got Bembridge, Cowes and Niton, so the only smaller library more difficult to get to is Brighstone, so it's fine in that department.

And the TICs are at Cowes, Newport, Ryde, Sandown, Shanklin and Yarmouth, which should be pretty easy, and we've got Newport, and hopefully I can get Cowes next week. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 20:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Just seen your latest photos, good as always. The Solo reminds me, one is due to stay now and run the 25 (in SV livery), allowing still unfinished 507 to become part of the bus fleet eventually. On a totally unrelated matter again, I think you might need to re-upload File:Stagecoach Hampshire 13620 NDZ 3020 2.JPG, as I've been keeping an eye on it, and the thumbnail is still corrupt. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 21:11, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, and thanks for alerting me to that problem with the thumbnail. I'm not sure why it happened, but there seemed to be a problem at the time as I noticed it happen to a number of other images, that one just hasn't sorted itself out for some reason. I'll try re-uploading it soon to see if it makes a difference. It seems to have taken ages to get 507 ready! But it should be interesting with the Solo, thanks for letting me know. Editor5807^speak 00:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

It has taken ages, goodness knows when they'll finish it! I know they had to use some of the sister buses that have gone elsewhere in Go South Coast to cut new panels for it, becuase no one knew what size was needed... Cowes TIC is now photographed. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 19:34, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Xmas lights tour

I'm just wondering whether you got a photo of this year's tour? If not, then not to worry, though they still run until 31st December. I note this year there's less departures, it only goes from Newport on certain days and Ryde on certain days.

Also, as I'm sure you're aware, it's been announced which libraries are closing, and also the list of public loos that are being closed. I am going to hopefully get some of these next time I'm on the island, though they seem to want to close everything by March so it's not a very large timescale sadly. I'd imagine they won't demolish toilet buildings so it should be alright to take them on an ad hoc basis, and part of a general scene, i.e. St Helens Green.

Nice photos by the way, I always love snow photos! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 20:39, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

I haven't been around at the right time to get a photo of the lights tour this year, I'm afraid. I hadn't noticed it was separate days that the tour departed from Newport and Ryde either.

I'll try to help out and get toilets, libraries and tourist information centres as I pass them as well so hopefully most of it will be done on time leaving only Wightbus which will probably be harder to get. I've just uploaded some Waterside Pool photos I took in June, and although I had no idea it would be closing when I took them, I'm glad I did as it's probably better to have photos of it being used with the pedalos out. And thanks, I've still got a few more photos to upload of the snow in December, although not many more, including some of SV buses covered in snow! Merry Christmas, Editor5807^speak 00:56, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

All sounds good, I look forwards to seeing more photos. Do you still have the photos of the Citaro on the 8, I've been talking about 479 and 480 with Ultra7 and it's reminded me. By the way, if you're wondering why I've been removing Category:Buses on the Isle of Wight photographed in 2010 (among others) from loads of images, it's becuase the categories such as Bustival 2010 and SV and IOW Festival 2010 are now subcategories of Category:Buses on the Isle of Wight photographed in 2010 and Category:Buses in the United Kingdom photographed in (month) 2010.

The details of which categories are affected are on my user talk page, I've not finished it all yet. You might want to read through some of the discussion with Ultra7 to see what's going on.

What do you think of the "Buses on IOW photo'ed in 2010" cat? I think that, seeing as there's more IOW images than there are all the others put together, it would be an idea to keep it. However, I realise that the other cats that mixed photo year and location, such as photographed in London in 2010 and Leeds in 2010 have been taken apart, so it leaves an exception keeping the island one. Plus also, the island images could still do with being put into the monthly categories? Your thoughts on this would be good! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 15:36, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try to upload the photo of the Citaro on route 8 soon. From 2011 I'm hoping to better organise the photos I've got still to upload so that they all get uploaded in the order I've taken them in which will hopefully save the mess of files I've got at the moment waiting to go up but haven't had the time to do.

I've been keeping up with the discussion between you and Ultra7 on your talk page and agree with most of what's been said. In terms of buses photographed on the Isle of Wight, since I've noticed the Categories by month in the United Kingdom, I've been uploading my bus one's from the island to there. So File:Wightbus 5862 HW54 DCE 8.JPG is at "Buses in the United Kingdom photographed in September 2010". I don't know if I should continue to do this for the other island bus images I've got to upload? I suppose all the files in "Buses on the Isle of Wight photographed in 2010" could eventually be moved into the buses by month in the United Kingdom category, particularly if a bot was involved... Happy new year anyway, Editor5807^speak 18:59, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Right, I've been thinking about this. I have now removed Category:Buses on the Isle of Wight photographed in 2010 from all of the files in the subcategories, so that's done and there's no over categorisation. I think for the moment we should continue putting our IOW bus images into "Category:Buses on the Isle of Wight photographed in 2010", pending a decision with what to do with that category. I would put them into the new monthly categories as well though, that's good.

I've also asked about a bot sorting out the main cats into the monthly ones, and if it works then I'll get them to do the IOW in 2010 one as well, but no one's replied to it yet.

Sounds good about uploading the files in the right order, I try my best so that the 2, 3, 4.JPG on the file names is in the right order but sometimes it simply doesn't work out! How many images from 2010 have you got from 2010 left to upload out of interest, are you nearly done or what?

I've been looking at your recent uploads as always, the President mishap ones are particularly interesting. Did you see the bump actually happen? It is a tight turn that. I've noticed some of the recently uploaded photos say they were taken in June 2006, which is a bit random...! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 14:03, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

That sounds good to me. I've been putting all the 2010 ones in one place so nothing gets left behind and it's easier to see how much more I've got to go. Whilst I've not completely finished that yet I'd imagine there's still about 300 images left from 2010, so while there's still a number to go, they all show a good variety of places around the island, and some around Portsmouth. Although unfortunately over the next few days I'll be very busy, so won't be very active probably until the end of the week...

As for the metadata, it was a problem while I was temporarily borrowing a camera while mine was repaired. I only noticed it after I'd taken a lot of photos. While I was uploading the latest ones I didn't actually notice, I'm affraid but I will go back to correct the date.

I did see the bus crash, but unfortunately didn't have my camera out till afterwards as it was the last thing I was expecting to happen. Another bus was going in the opposite direction was stopped at the traffic lights along St James Street meaning 196 had even less room to get round the corner... Editor5807^speak 20:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good, we do have quite a lot of variety of island places now, it's well covered. I dread to think how many images I've got, I'm still on 2009! Re the metadata, when it's wrong on my images I put a note next to the date. Obviously it's not compulsory, but when I see files where the date and metadata don't match I'm never sure which to believe, so I think telling the reader the metadata is wrong is helpful. You do need to use {{Date|2011|01|09}} though which is a pain.

I thought that would be the case, the driver must have been making sure the offside wasn't hitting the other bus, and missed how close the nearside was getting. Ooops! Did you pick up the indicator as a souvenir, I would have! (I've got some of a Countryliner Dart's front after an accident in the snow many years ago). Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 20:41, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Bustival 2011

Bustival this year will be held on Sunday 17th April 2011 apparently. Unfortunately I can't make it, so I was wondering whether you will definitely be able to go this year? Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 15:58, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I should think I'll almost certainly be able to go this year. Now I know I'm probably the only Commons contributer going to be there I'll make extra effort to be free as we've got 2009 and 2010 it would be nice to have 2011 as well. Thanks for letting me know, though. Editor5807^speak 19:59, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, that would be good, as I too was thinking it would be nice to not miss 2011. We'll see closer the time I suppose if anything changes. Nice Wightbus photo down at the Quay by the way, I didn't know they did that. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Just to confirm it is the 17th: http://www.islandbuses.info/bustival_page.shtml I was a little worried what I'd heard might be wrong and you might have gone to Havenstreet on the wrong day - but it's OK now!! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 21:55, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I saw the link a while ago on SV's website actually. I was guessing they'd be running the shuttles anyway like they had before, because there's no other way I could get to Havenstreet on a Sunday! Editor5807^speak 22:44, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Route 2 extension

Apparently it will be extended back to Ryde, but via Oakfield, from April. http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/delight-as-bus-service-extended-36755.aspx. Which means those bus stops in Sandown, Brading, Tesco and Ryde need doing all over again, to caputure them *without* the 2 on them, before it gets added back!! I'm hoping to come over next month, so that's something to add to the list. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:16, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Old stuff

You might have noticed some of my edits. I have come across a few files you've moved, but are still on your user page lists as the old file name. I changed two, but thought I'd better not do any more without asking you. Others I have found so far are:

Redirects:

• File:Southern Vectis road train.JPG

I have also found some more files with incorrect metadata. These are:

Wrong metadata:

• File:Whitwell Church.JPG
• File:Hovercraft leaving Ryde.JPG
• File:Hovertravel fleet at Ryde.JPG
• File:Large sign for The Needles Tour.JPG?
• File:Whitwell Chapel.JPG - There's two versions of this, presumably the original (which incidentally has died and won't open), was April 2008, but the current version could be anything.
• File:The Wight Mouse in Chale.JPG
• File:Water pump on Kemming Road in Whitwell.JPG

Also, I thought you might want to move this one: File:Southern Vectis Bristol VRT open top bus.JPG?

Hope this helps, Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 18:19, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I've been away these past few days with no access to a computer but didn't get chance to put a notice up before I left, which is why I've been inactive. Anyway, I'm back now. Thanks for correcting the file names, I'd been meaning to but hadn't got round to it yet. As for files with the wrong metadata, those ones you've pointed out have made me realise, the metadata is definitely 1 day, 0 months and 2 years ahead of its time, so I'll correct all those that need doing with the exact date. I know for definite the Whitwell Church photo was uploaded the day it was taken. What should be a complete list of the affected files are here. I was going to just list them here until I found so many! As there's now a record of them I'll just strike them out as I go to make sure nothing gets missed off. I plan to re-name a lot of them as well. I was still fairly new to Commons at this stage and didn't really know what I was doing when I named them initially... Editor5807^speak 00:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Cool. That's very good that we've got the exact dates down. I'll keep an eye out in case anything gets missed. I too have tones of stuff from when I was new to commons I need to sort out, but I've got so much new stuff it takes over! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 23:07, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

• File:Isle of Wight Randonee in Whitwell.JPG. You might have noticed I've changed the links on this file page, and was talking about creating a redirect on en Wiki. Well I was about to, but it turns out there already is one. Isle of Wight Randonee does redirect to Isle of Wight Randonée. It was the link was spelt incorrectly with only one "n" - as is the file name. I thought you might want to move the file. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

OK thank you. I've just moved it. Editor5807^speak 22:45, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

NBS office

I'm sure you've heard about the whole SV/tourist information thing, but I've was reading one article and it reminded me that SV are refurbishing the waiting room at Newport bus station. Have they started yet, and if not do you think photos would be a good idea? Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 20:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

When I first heard about it I thought it might be a good idea, so I'm pretty sure I may have one somewhere. Although if not I could take another one. Also while I've got your attention, the IWCP also reported about money from B&Q being spent to extend the life of the number 39 bus route until the end of the Summer. (http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/bandampq-money-will-pay-for-bus-service-37067.aspx) I'd actually assumed Wightbus services were being run as they are until the end of August, but this article suggests differently. I was wondering if you knew if any other Wightbus routes were also set to finish by the end of March? If so I'll try to prioritise getting those done over other routes. So far I've actually got routes 20 and 39 covered pretty well, so they shouldn't be a problem. Thanks, Editor5807^speak 23:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

OK, I hadn't seen that, and it's a bit worrying!! While the extract from the council report at http://ventnorblog.com/2010/11/29/budget-cuts-wight-bus-proposed-to-stop-but-some-funding-available/ ("It is proposed to cease Wight Bus as from 31 August 2011 (saving £75,000 in 2011/12 and £150,000 in a full year") does say from August, we don't know for sure, so I think we better play safe. I certainly had not thought that Wightbus would start going from March, alongside the other council cuts.

I've updated the User:Arriva436/Bus changes 1 table, only the X10/11 and summer routes are left now. I have left the 20 and 39 for you to fill out, so we know where we stand with those. In terms of the routes, the 20, 39 and 32 are nearly done. I can finish the 32 myself, so don't worry about that.

The Shanklin routes 22 and 24 are coming along, I think Lake Morrisons (for 22, 24 and 8!!) and Perowne Way (for the 22 - the same place I took the photo of the SV 22 would be good I suppose) and Shanklin High Street (for the 24) would be the places to try first, which would cover at least the main points should we not get everything done.

Newport bus station is an obvious one, we've not got photos of any of the 23, 35 or 36 there yet - so they should be easy. 23 is a bit lacking, Alverstone I suppose is the major point not yet covered.

The 30 will be interesting, seeing as we're not entirely sure if it shows 30 or 32 (have you seen anymore arrive in Newport showing 30?). One journey a day will be hard but I'll try and do The Luck/Northwood/Parkhurst when I'm over. Probably won't manage all three though.

The 31 is an issue - as we don't have anything.

The 33 is OK, but we definitely need Havenstreet asap. I've separated the 33A, while it wouldn't be too bad if we say, only have a photo of the 33 at Newport and not the 33A, we haven't actually got any 33As yet so we need those!! (Actually I have got one, but not really anywhere important in terms of the route).

The 35 and 36 are going to be buggers to do without a car, but I've put what I think are the points we should focus on first in the changes table. Please update the table with what you've got, and make any changes/improvements you can see. Hopefully we can get most of it done.

How is it coming along with the libraries/TICs and toilets? Brighstone Library, the 12 and the 36 would be one good trip! I think toilets have dropped down the list priority wise now - they should at least stay there looking pretty much the same as before when they're closed, unlike a withdrawn bus route!!

A week or so before I come over I'm going to have to plan what I'm doing (I also want to see the Wilts & Dorset 56/56A Southampton - Lymington before they change to Bluestar), so I thought I check and make sure that you're not going anywhere in the next few weeks. It would be good if we could have both tables up to date before I come over. Also, you might need to explain to me where some of the toilets are! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 13:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Just thought of the Dial A Ride. I think that as each route goes to Newport, we'd be best to focus on photographing them departing Newport from Town Lane. If we manage that then we could try and get them in other places. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 13:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for updating the table, I've filled in what I've done so far. Although it doesn't look like much, in some places I've got photos of the bus turning into other roads. For example on the 20, I've got one photo of the bus turning from Marlborough Road into Arundel Road, so I suppose it's not the end of the world if I don't get another shot in time of the bus in Arundel Road.

Unfortunately a lot of time I have free at the moment is in the afternoon, when most Wightbus routes stop! The 22, 23, 24 and 33 do still have some services running that late at least, but it does limit the amount of time I have for the other routes.

I have seen the 30 in Newport on a number of occasions with "30" displayed, so I think we shouldn't have a problem with that. Although the timetable does say "continues to Newport if requested by passengers on the bus", so supposedly if no one does, or the bus is empty then we'll miss it! http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/bus-service-could-be-run-by-councils-36870.aspx indicates the Wightbus services around Cowes should be safe until the end of August though.

If I was to make a guess I'd probably say the 20, 31 and 39 would be most at risk from being cut early, although that is just a guess! And it's just based on the fact that most of their operation is close to current services provided by SV. I'd hope routes like the 23, 33, 35 and 36 would be safe for a while longer as cutting them would completely maroon residents in areas like Calbourne, Newchurch and Havenstreet. http://www.iwight.com/council/departments/engineering_services/transport_fleet/Wightbus_Homepage/ states that the current timetable finishes on the 16 April 2011.

I've not really done any more toilets, TICs or libraries so far just more work on Wightbus, so the list is still up to date and I'll keep it up to date as I do more. Editor5807^speak 00:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Cool. If it does cover the two roads pretty well then you could add it as done in the table. We do have a 30 in Newport, back when it actually ran towards Cowes, so that should be OK. Even if the bus is empty and heads back to the depot, it probably would go through Parkhurst and St Mary's with 30 still showing so that should be OK.

I'll keep an eye out on the tables. I'll I think I'll have to plan out what I'm going to try and see while I'm over so I don't waste any time! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 19:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Panic!

Just noticed these on VOSA:

20 withdrawn	PH0005845/16 - ISLE OF WIGHT COUNCIL, TRANSPORT MANAGER, ENTERPRISE HOUSE, MONKS BROOK, NEWPORT, PO30 5WB Cancellation Accepted: Operating between RYDE Elmfield and RYDE Elmfield given service number 20 effective from 16-Apr-2011.
23 new timetable	PH0005845/62 - ISLE OF WIGHT COUNCIL, TRANSPORT MANAGER, ENTERPRISE HOUSE, MONKS BROOK, NEWPORT, PO30 5WB Variation Accepted: Operating between Newport South Street and Shanklin Carter Avenue given service number 23 effective from 18-Apr-2011. To amend Timetable.
24 new timetable	PH0005845/65 - ISLE OF WIGHT COUNCIL, TRANSPORT MANAGER, ENTERPRISE HOUSE, MONKS BROOK, NEWPORT, PO30 5WB Variation Accepted: Operating between Yaverland and Shanklin Esplanade given service number 24 effective from 18-Apr-2011. To amend Timetable.
32 new timetable	PH0005845/63 - ISLE OF WIGHT COUNCIL, TRANSPORT MANAGER, ENTERPRISE HOUSE, MONKS BROOK, NEWPORT, PO30 5WB Variation Accepted: Operating between Cowes Co-op and Cowes Co-op given service number 32 effective from 18-Apr-2011. To amend Timetable.
33 new timetable	PH0005845/55 - ISLE OF WIGHT COUNCIL, TRANSPORT MANAGER, ENTERPRISE HOUSE, MONKS BROOK, NEWPORT, PO30 5WB Variation Accepted: Operating between Newport Bus Station and Ryde Esplanade given service number 33 effective from 18-Apr-2011. To amend Timetable.

That's all, but I suppose there could be more tomorrow. It does (unsurprisingly) match nicely the end date of the last Wightbus timetable. I suppose it does give us an idea of what to prioritise, unless more changes actually are given tomorrow. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 19:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

OK, so I'm guessing if nothing changes by tomorrow the only route that will be changing and need photographing before the end of August will be route 20? If that is the case it shouldn't be too bad as a lot of it has now been done. I'll prioritise it over the other routes and focus on the others once the 20 has been finished. At least operating around Ryde it's much easier for me to get to when I do have some free time. Editor5807^speak 21:26, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'm leaving tomorrow, so if you could make sure the tables are up to date so I can print them off I'd appreciate it! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, everything's up to date already. Unfortunately I've been pretty busy so have had little time to get more done, but hope to start again this week, mainly on route 20. Hope you enjoy your visit, Editor5807^speak 22:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I have now found a PC! I managed some stuff, sadly the weather was terrible, and I did just have some bad luck. In terms of the buses, I got the 36 at Newport, and went chasing the 35 and got it at Calbourne, Yarmouth and then Newtown. I could have got more (there was someone waiting at Boldnor (incidentally the only person who got off on the morning inward journey to Yarmouth)) - but as I wasn't driving it seemed a bit much to keep stopping everywhere! I got the 30 and 32 in Northwood, and the 30 down by the luck in Gurnard. It was using the Beaver 3 which was surprising. I couldn't get Egpyt Hill as the road was closed, so had to make do of a shot of it on diversion instead! Got the toilets at St Helens, but my plan to do Bembridge failed - well, I don't know where "The Point" is or the Harold Wilson Centre, I did manage Lane End and the High Street. Unfortunately when I got to Steyne Road there was some sort of young kid's sport activity going on at the youth club, and they were running about by the toilets, so obviously taking a camera out would have been a very foolish thing to do - so I didn't. I failed with the Ventnor Dial a bus too. I did however get photos to do with the libraries being closed due to the strike. I noticed there's a lot of Wightbus flags for the 20 on the leg to from Seaview which I was surprised about. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:07, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

OK well what you've done sounds good to me. To be honest I'm not sure where the Harold Lewis Centre or The Point is either, so I may have to do a bit more investigating there. I've made some minor progress in getting the 30 at St James Square (again the Beaver 3) and the 31 at Ventnor Boots. I've got some good coverage of the protests (both the march and the demonstration outside County Hall) which could go nicely with all the photos of buildings being closed. I think routes like the 35 and 36 will be a lot easier to do during the Summer. Although I won't have a car to drive I don't mind walking further or waiting for longer as long as it's not raining! I should also have a lot more free time, but what you've got anyway sounds good. Editor5807^speak 00:43, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Cool, that sounds good. I was hoping you'd have some pics of the march. I forgot to say, I've managed to photograph former SV 012, 718, 736, 739 and 744 in various places which I'm pleased about. Also managed 402 which (along with 401-4) is now red and blue (not blue and red!) like the others. I did see two of the others but no photos sadly, hardly the end of the world though. In fact I noticed the other day we have photos of the entire batch 401-413 on Commons! Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 21:05, 26 February 2011 (UTC)