User talk:ET72

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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 20:18, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

File:Arms of Poole.svg

File:Arms of Poole.svg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

2A02:A466:F20E:1:9081:BE8:D3E2:6431 06:12, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Argument Against Deletion

This is a misunderstanding of the functions of heraldry, as said above the section of the blazon relevant to the dolphin reads "a Dolphin naiant embowed Argent langued Gules", which gives no instruction on the depiction of the dolphin. John Brooke-Little, in the 1973 edition of Boutell's Heraldry, clearly states that the depiction of charges in arms (he uses a lion rampant as an example but it was a general comment) is to a great extent "a matter for the artist to decide".

Beyond this, the 1976 and 1948 grants were augmentations of an existing coat of arms, so the shield itself has remained exactly the same since before 1563, just has received additions at various times. Fashions in heraldry change and the way in which the College of Arms might paint a coat of arms at different times obviously differs - had the crest been granted in the 19th century then the shield would likely have been painted with an elaborate gilt edging and in a shape wholly impractical to use in battle, because that was the heraldic fashion of the time, but it would be mad now to insist that a coat of arms continue to be drawn in that style. It's also not as is if the grant depicts a real dolphin, and while slightly more realistic it's still far from devoid of heraldic features. I have seen the arms of Poole emblazoned with a great variety of dolphins, each to varying degrees of realism. There's a plaque at Poole Grammar School from 1966 which depicts the most heraldic dolphin I have ever seen, yet the emblazonment used by the school as a logo from the 1930s through to probably the '90s shows a much more realistic dolphin, demonstrating differing use of the arms even before the 1976 augmentation. Heraldry is not a static art and is made beautiful and kept alive by the opportunity for interpretation which the blazon provides. This sort of petty argument is an attempt to stagnate heraldry in an emblazonment from the 1970s.

My version of the Poole arms, which are importantly free to use as Wikimedia assets, are absolutely correct to the blazon. It is an incorrect application of heraldry to insist that what has for a time been standard practice in the emblazoning of a coat of arms (such as the naturalistic dolphin seen since 1976) is a necessary. In the spirit of the Wikimedia heraldry project my version of the arms should be kept as the primary one, and the emblazonment used by the former council should be a separate image in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ET72 (talk • contribs) 09:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Greeting Message

Hello dear heraldist colleague, I hope you are very well. The reason of this message is to put myself at your disposal to carry out joint heraldic works for wikimedia. I have seen the wonderful effort and work you have done and I want to encourage you to continue to do so together. Sincerely, Faqu 17 MAY 2022 22:48

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags

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singling out from other peoples work for a helm of a peer

Hi @ET72 I have noticed in the past you have singeld out some of sodacan's work I was wondering can you extract the helm of a peer from this coat of arms please and upload it.

File:Coat98839.png

the reason been is there is no good version of a helm for a peer on wikipedia ArchangelMichael2691 (talk) 06:03, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello, the file you've linked is a .png not a .svg so elements cannot be extracted from it, however if you find a .svg file with that helm in you should be able to extract it using a program such as Inkscape (which is free). There is also an isolated peer's helm on Wikimedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peer_helmet_in_heraldry.svg ET72 (talk) 13:31, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Queen of France coa

Hi, can u do this coa? Let me know! Marck Giannini (talk) 17:33, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Manchester University C of A

The purple colour on the coat of arms you produced for Wikipedia is so very unlike the one used by the institution that it does not really represent it in any meaningful way, could this be improved? The yellow, while better, is not particularly accurate either. I feel that the previous version, for all its ungainly proportions, is more useful, precisely because the colours are accurately portrayed. Urselius (talk) 08:01, 8 May 2024 (UTC)