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Hope you have had a wonderful holiday! — Daeva Trạc (talk) 02:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. 😄 --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Het allerbeste voor 2024

Happy New Year

Hi Donald Trung,
Very best wishes for 2024

Dank voor al je bijdragen
Lotje (talk) 06:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Bedankt. 😄 --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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源義信 (talk) 02:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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Bla bla bla

Tao nhắc cho mày lần cuối, nếu muốn thích tỏ ra ta đây anh hùng thì nói cho đàng hoàng, đừng giở trò bỉ ổi núp wiki để phá công việc của người khác. Đéo sõi tiếng việt đòi tẩy xóa hai chữ annam thì tốt nhất mày nên tự tử. Tao không muốn bới ra hàng nghìn lỗi của mày thì thôi, đừng phá tao kẻo tao đéo để mày yên đâu con ạ. Muốn chơi kiểu gì tao chơi kiểu đó với mày, loại vô tổ quốc rẻ tiền. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hhahoaldg2 (talk • contribs) 18:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Ngáp. 🙂🙂🙂 --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:37, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Yap yap yap

thằng chó bệnh hoạn, ôm toàn kiến thức lởm khởm rẻ tiền nghĩ mình ngon. Annam thì xóa cho bằng được, lúc người ta khuyên tử tế thì đi báo cáo quản trị xóa sạch. Địt mẹ loại bẩn tính, chính mày mới phá hoại chứ đéo phải ông nội mày. Loại hèn hạ bẩn thỉu!

  • Tiếng Việt đéo sõi đòi đi dạy đời cho người học từ bé, địt mẹ kiến thức lởm khởm cả rổ nghĩ mình hơn người. Loại ăn cắp phản phúc hèn hạ. Có giỏi nói chuyện đàng hoàng xem nào, hay lại giở trò báo cáo khóa không cho người ta nói rồi tự cho mình ngon?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hhahoaldg2 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

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This guy thinks he's funny

He added "{{Sockpuppet|Đăng Đàn Cung}}" here. See: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/843715790 🤣🤣🤣 --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Unsolicited advice

I would not see a non-admin add a suspected sockpuppet tag on someone's userpage (even if the suspicion is 200% true). Please avoid what you did here and leave that task to admins. ─ The Aafī (talk) 19:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

TheAafi, ah, I wasn't aware that adding those tags is an admin-only task. Especially since it's a clear duck 🦆. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Evaluating a lot of things seems a difficult task (at this moment). What I observe is that this editor is surely not new, and has significant overlaps. I have warned them and would leave the block request for other experienced admins. ─ The Aafī (talk) 19:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
TheAafi, understandable, typically I ignore "Musée Annam" socks until they get disruptive. Usually they just do minor actions like adding odd categories like "Symbols of XXX District" where they will include random images of random symbols that aren't actually symbols of said district. More often than not their edits are just minor nuisances and I like the fact that "Musée Annam" likes uploading images of symbols and old newspapers that are otherwise hard to find, but oftentimes he also uploads poorly sourced images of fictional flags that he claims are "100% (one-hundred percent) legitimate".
The only reason I reported him this time was because of the canonical hats category which just seemed odd to me, his categorisation style is highly idiosyncratic, which isn't always an issue, but oftentimes he will completely re-organise random categories for no discernable reason. I personally don't mind his abusive language and you don't have to censor him as it's just expressions of anger from a powerless man, my main issue is with him completely re-organising and disharmonising categories to the point where it will take a lot of work to clean up. I do need to fact check his uploads, like his "Flag of the Hoa people", oftentimes he actually finds correct information, but I need to verify this because he has uploaded a lot of misinformation before. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey…

Why did you remove this file from this category? Regards, RodRabelo7 (talk) 23:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

RodRabelo7, my bad, I was cleaning some files categorised by a vandal and I might've overcorrected it. I will check them out later. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
No problem. Thanks for answering! RodRabelo7 (talk) 17:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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A photograph that may contain Minister Vương Tứ Đại (王賜大)

KITLV 85885

Hi, Donald Trung,

I've been searching since you asked me earlier if I'd seen a portrait of Minister Vương Tứ Đại (王賜大). I've made some new findings in these days and I'm sharing them with you here.

Here is a photo (KITLV 85885) taken during the visit of Andries Cornelis Dirk de Graeff to French Indochina. As you can see, most of the people in the photos are mandarins we know very well. From left: Tôn Thất Hân, Nguyễn Hữu Bài, Bửu Liêm, Phạm Liệu, Thái Văn Toản, (?), and Bửu Thạch. Here is the key: who is the second from the right?

As you might have realised, apart from the Regent Tôn Thất Hân, the Duke of Hoài-Ân Bửu Liêm, and the person we don't know, all the others were ministers at the time (1930). At this point, we find that three of the seven Ministers (if the President of Ton-Nhon is also regarded as a Minister) were not present in this photo: Võ Liêm (武濂), Minister of Rites, Vương Tứ Đại (王賜大), Minister of Public Works and Tôn Thất Đàn (尊室檀), Minister of Justice. We've already seen portraits of Võ Liêm ([1]) and Tôn Thất Đàn ([2]).

KITLV 11787

Here is another group photograph (KITLV 11787) of the same event. As you can see, Tôn Thất Đàn was not in either of these two photos (Đàn is an old man with a long beard, thus a recognisable image). What about Võ Liêm? In KTLV 11787, He's third from the right in the second row, wearing glasses. And the unknown man wearing glasses in KITLV 85885 is standing behind Mr Nguyen Huu Bai in this photo, not wearing glasses (Note the shape of his face, don't confuse him with Mr Vo Liem).

By now, I could judge that the unknown man in both photos, is very likely to be the Minister of Public Works we have been looking for - Mr Vương Tứ Đại (王賜大).

Btw, Another photo you uploaded, taken in 1932, also shows such a man who looks similar to him standing with other ministers. 1932 源義信 (talk) 11:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

源義信, wow, great research. Thank you for notifying me about these developments. 😀😀😀 — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi, Donald Trung,
Finally I found a photograph of His excellency Vương Tứ Đại:

It's cropped from a group photograph we have seen before. This time I found a higher resolution version (although there is a white vertical line), with the sheet of the list of names in the photo!!!
And comparing to this photo, I think the man in the photos I sent you above is indeed him. 源義信 (talk) 14:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
源義信, wow, thank you. Your skills are amazing. 🤩🤩🤩 I've added it to my draft, but I'm not planning on working on the Nguyễn Dynasty until I'm done with cash coins, numismatics, and a number of other projects. But I'm glad that you've been able to identify this minister. — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 16:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Lỗ bộ (鹵簿) truyền thống Việt. - trích từ sách Les symboles, les emblèmes et les accessoires du culte chez les Annamites.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Vote on the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter is now open. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll now through 2 February 2024. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.

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--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

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Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (Reminder).

the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter is now open. Community members may cast their vote and provide comments about the charter via SecurePoll now through 2 February 2024. Those of you who voiced your opinions during the development of the UCoC Enforcement Guidelines will find this process familiar.

The current version of the U4C Charter is on Meta-wiki with translations available.

Read the charter, go vote and share this note with others in your community. I can confidently say the U4C Building Committee looks forward to your participation.

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 22:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

AAVH is back, but...

Hi Donald Trung,

Today I found that the website of AAVH is working again. However, as was the case last year, all the previous post pages (i.e., the separate description pages for each photograph) are not available. And photographs with smaller numbers (AP+number) were in poor quality like this:

bad quality

The search function is still working, so I can get the title and the first few words of the description, like: https://www.aavh.org/?s=AP0646 源義信 (talk) 07:41, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

源義信, wow, that's sad. Maybe we should contact the association and ask what's going on. I am a bit busy in real life at the moment, but I could ask when I have the time. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:25, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

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