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This Month in Education: August 2021

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--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 14:06, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Sceau du Dê Thám
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Add it here.

Signature (Siggy) to prevent automated archiving. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:42, 21 August 2021 (UTC) .

Swiss Natona token coin to photograph
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--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:22, 22 August 2021 (UTC) .

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15:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Tên gọi “Việt Nam” có từ khi nào?

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 07:30, 31 August 2021 (UTC) .

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC) .

Contact the Museum of the Republic of Vietnam

** ✓ Done. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 22:24, 31 August 2021 (UTC) 

Signature (Siggy) to prevent automated archiving. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:26, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

General purpose import tool

Write a proposal for a general purpose import tool. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Hallo Donald Trung, kan je hiermee iets aanvangen. Ik meende Category:Thiền monks zou een plausibele optie zijn. Thanks. Lotje (talk) 11:27, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Lotje: , noem me Donnie, ik zie geen directe referenties naar Zen (Thiền) Boeddhisme in zijn biografie, er is een tekst achter hem die de uploader ook bij zijn andere werken zet, als dit een zentekst is kan je hem als zenmonnik categoriseren. Ik ga later wel verder onderzoek doen, maar moet eerst slapen. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 22:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Slaap lekker Lotje (talk) 04:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Marxist historical negationism in Vietnam

If you want a good way to identify historical negationism in Vietnam I would direct you to "Historiography in the Soviet Union#Theoretical approaches" "Chinese historiography#Marxism", specifically:

  • Primitive-communism
  • Slave society
  • Feudal society
  • Capitalist society
  • Socialist society
  • The world communist society

The official historical view within the People's Republic of China associates each of these stages with a particular era in Chinese history.

Now project this onto Vietnamese history you get:

The same applies to North Korean historiography, notice how common the term "Phong kiến" (封建) appears in Communist Chinese, Communist Vietnamese, and Communist Korean historiographies, Joseon is called "Triều Tiên Phong kiến Vương triều" (朝鮮封建王朝) in North Korea. Meanwhile go over any South Korean history text book and look for the term "Phong kiến", it's simply much rarer. The problem with Vietnamese historiography is that the Vietnamese communities in France and the United States aren't producing anything that goes against the Socialist narrative, Chinese historiography has Taiwan (for what that is worth with the strong anti-Chinese sentiment in the Taiwanese nationalist movement that often love to adopt Communist Party frameworks to mis-represent what it means to be "Chinese") and Korean historiography has the much more influential and scientifically based South Korean historiography. Most foreign historians won't criticise Socialist Vietnamese historiography because that would mean losing access to Vietnam and its archives, archaeological sites, and other resources and if you're a historian specialised in Vietnam you would have to follow the party line, Overseas Vietnamese might criticise the historiography but the Vietnamese Communist Party can just learn from the Chinese Communist Party in how to control their respective country's diaspora and Little Saigon's can turn into Little Hanoi's in a generation, notice how little critical thought against Chinese historiography comes from the Overseas Chinese. This is also why I don't remove "feudal" and "feudalism" from articles about Chinese and Vietnamese history on Wikipedia, because of the fact that our contemporary mainstream historiography supports its inclusion even if it's actually is just historical revisionism. --Donald Trung (talk) 21:13, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


Copied here to draft later for a text. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 10:06, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

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Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 3

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Yongzheng period imperial edict

"Title" field.
"Source" field.
Source links. LINK 🔗.

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:18, 1 September 2021 (UTC) .

Cộng Đồng Việt Nam Tỵ Nạn Cộng Sản Tại Hòa Lan

Ask them to donate old images and documents to Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:50, 25 August 2021 (UTC)