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Aschendorf
Hi Donald Trung, I was there several times where you took the photos in Aschendorf, even today. However, I can't remember the locations of two of your images: File:Clothing recycling containers, Aschendorf (2017).jpg and File:Road signs located at a roundabout, Aschendorf (2017) 01.jpg. Could you please give me a hint (street name and/or coordinates)? Btw. did you try the Vlaamse Friet here? They're great! Greetings, -- Ies (talk) 16:26, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Ies: Yes, I did try the Flemish fries (Dutch: Vlaamse frieten) though the people selling it were Groningers and also spoke Gronings. File:Clothing recycling containers, Aschendorf (2017).jpg was located behind the Combi, from what Microsoft Bing Maps tells me they're located at the Rheder Straße (English: Rhederstreet), though it was behind the Combi so I wouldn't know if it's a part of the Rheder Straße or the Zu den Wallwiesen. Concerning File:Road signs located at a roundabout, Aschendorf (2017) 01.jpg I was honestly too busy to give it a more distinctive name but from what I can tell it's located at the crossing between Zu den Emsauen and the Rheder Straße (again, courtesy of Microsoft Bing Maps).
- Personally I would prefer it that my cell.-phone also saves the coordinates, but for some unfortunate reason it sometimes records them and often doesn't which is really annoying as I really like it when my pictures 📷 are properly geotagged. If you have any more questions then feel free to ask them. 😉 (I always use both, note sure which operating system you have but from my side the latter looks better, but with some people it looks flat and colourless.)
- Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:27, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
- P.S. (Post Script)
- I’m not as familiar with the freedom of panorama laws of Germany as I am with those of the Socialist Republic of Viet Nam and the Kingdom of the Netherlands 👑 so if anything breaks the laws then please 🙏🏻 flag them appropriately. Though I’ll be sure to read up on Commons:FOP for Germany the next time I’ll take my bicycle 🚲 there. 😅
- Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:28, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
The closest coordinates I could pinpoint using Microsoft Bing Maps...
Windows Maps
© 2017 Microsoft Corporation, © 2017 HERE
An den Bleicherkolken 10, 26871 Papenburg
53.048923, 7.324519
View location in Windows Maps | View location in Bing Maps
Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱.
© 2017 Microsoft Corporation, © 2017 HERE
Zu den Emsauen 8, 26871 Papenburg
53.049156, 7.327514
View location in Windows Maps | View location in Bing Maps
I have tried pinpointing them down to the (near) exact coordinates this is for the road signs and this is for the clothing recycling container (behind the Combi). For a good measure 📏 I left the “share” data addresses from above here too, I'm not sure if I could manually add geotags here in Wikimedia Commons or if that can only be transferred from my cell.-phone’s metadata.
Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:29, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
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How my archives used to look.
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Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 15:38, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
NUEBO. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 15:38, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Archive maximum limit test.
KINDLY DO NOT REMOVE THIS AS I ADDED THIS TO TESR IF THE ARCHIVER BOT WILL PROPERLY RECOGNISE THE 50K LIMIT I SET ANS IF IT ARCHIVES WITH THE PARAMETERS I SET.
This is an experimental page 📃 for seeing what infoboxes would look the best for importing illustrations of Vietnamese cash coins from Eduardo Toda y Güell's Annam and its minor currency 💲.
--Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:59, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Infoboxes
These are drafts for improvements for the information box templates.
Original information templates
Toda No. 1 太平興寶
Description |
English: No. 1. (Barker: 1.6-1.16)
Obverse: 太平興寶 Thai-binh-hung-bao. Reverse: The character 丁 Dinh, the name of the Dynasty. |
Date | |
Source | Annam and its minor currency (Art-Hanoi) |
Author | Eduardo Toda y Güell |
Toda No. 2 太平興寶
Description |
English: No. 2. (Barker: 1.17-1.19)
Obverse: same as before. Reverse: plain. Coins made by the king 先皇 TIEN-HOANG. White copper. Note: Though the reign title was 太平, all coins actually bear the legend 大平興寶 instead of 太平興寶 as it was stated in the original Toda's book. The former 黎 Le Dynasty. - 981-1010. General LE-HOAN ascended the throne under the name of 天福 THIEN-PHUOC, and, following the policy initiated by his predecessor, secured peace on the frontiers by successful wars against China and Ciampa. His son and successor, called LONG-VIET, was murdered by his brother 臥朝 NGOA-TRIEU, three days after he had come to power. This prince, whose conduct was extremely cruel and bad, soon afterwards proclaimed himself king and committed every kind of excess and crime, inventing new tortures and ruining the country in every way. With his death the LE Dynasty came to an end. |
Date | |
Source | Annam and its minor currency (Art-Hanoi) |
Author | Eduardo Toda y Güell |
Toda No. 3 天福鎮寶
Description |
English: No. 3. (Barker: 2.1-2.7)
Obverse: 天福鎮寶 Thien-phuc-tran-bao, or provincial coin of Thien-phuoc. At that time, as some fifty years before in China, the provinces of Annam were called 鎮 TRAN. Reverse: The character 黎 LE, the name of the Dynasty. |
Date | |
Source | Annam and its minor currency (Art-Hanoi) |
Author | Eduardo Toda y Güell |
Toda No. 4 黎
Description |
English: No. 4. (Barker: none)
Obverse: Only the character 黎 LE in the lower part of the square hole. Reverse: plain. The above two coins were cast in the 5th moon of the 5th year of 大行 DAI-HANH (986). They were made principally of white copper, and are rather smaller than the ordinary Chinese cash. |
Date | |
Source | Annam and its minor currency (Art-Hanoi) |
Author | Eduardo Toda y Güell |
Second draft
Toda No. 2 太平興寶
Or possibly change the title to:
Toda No. 2
As this might be easier to upload.
Description |
English: "No. 2. (Barker: 1.17-1.19)
Obverse: same as before.
Reverse: plain. Coins made by the king 先皇 TIEN-HOANG. White copper.
Note: Though the reign title was 太平, all coins actually bear the legend 大平興寶 instead of 太平興寶 as it was stated in the original Toda's book.
The former 黎 Le Dynasty. - 981-1010.
General LE-HOAN ascended the throne under the name of 天福 THIEN-PHUOC, and, following the policy initiated by his predecessor, secured peace on the frontiers by successful wars against China and Ciampa.
His son and successor, called LONG-VIET, was murdered by his brother 臥朝 NGOA-TRIEU, three days after he had come to power. This prince, whose conduct was extremely cruel and bad, soon afterwards proclaimed himself king and committed every kind of excess and crime, inventing new tortures and ruining the country in every way. With his death the LE Dynasty came to an end." - Eduardo Today y Güell, Annam and its minor currency
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Date | (Shanghai) |
Source | Annam and its minor currency (hosted on Art-Hanoi) |
Author | Eduardo Toda y Güell (it is possible that these illustrations were made by his wife) |
It might be better to attribute Sema for hosting as the website's domain could be owned by a completely different owner in a decade, also the illustrations were first published in Toda's Annam and its minor currency so even if his wife made these illustrations they might've still been his copyrighted material as he was the first to publish them.
Also it might be important to note that this book 📖 was first published in Shanghai, Qing Dynasty as Hispanic copyright © laws would prohibit these illustrations and the content from this book to be hosted on Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:58, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
How the batch request looked on December 6th, 2017
I Keep this here as a reference point to later improve the request.
I would like to request these bots to fetch all images and their related text from Ed Toda’s Annam and its minor currency, I really would like to do this myself only I have very little experience uploading files from public domain, and I have extremely little free time at hand and the images almost number in 300. 😅 Now I really wouldn't request this here if I thought that I had many other options so here it goes...
Sent from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱.
I plan on using all of these in the Wikipedia article “Vietnamese cash”, so I do have an immediate usage for them. I hope that these ideas 💡 are plausible. 🙇🏻
- Source to upload from:
Ed. Toda.’s Annam and its minor currency hosted on Art-Hanoi, a website operated by Sema (known on Wikipedia as @Pyvanet~commonswiki: ).
- Do the media URLs follow a pattern?
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21(, and technically ALL coins here).
Do not copy after 21 as page 22 is originally created by Sema himself, though Sema did create the Wikipedia article I wish to add these to, and he did wish to upload them himself he eventually gave up on doing it as too many of his files of more recent South-Vietnamese banknotes got deleted, I would request these separately from him but a ticket 🎟 would have to be fetched, and it should be more clearly discriminated as more recent currencies may violate Vietnamese copyright ©.
- Does the site have an API?
Not that I’m aware of.
- What else could ease uploading? (is the site valid XHTML, do they use a WCM…?)
- Did you contact the site owner?
Yes, I did though the other images would have to be uploaded by himself, these however are the images of Ed. Toda and are mere scans thus do not go over the threshold of originality, and are in public domain.
Note 📝: The owner really does want his content here but quit here after some of his images got deleted due to Vietnamese copyright © laws.
For context: this page describes the scans in detail and is entitled “Read this first”.
- Describe the works to be uploaded in detail (audio files, images by …):
The files are all images (scans) from Eduardo Toda’s 1882 book 📚 “Annam and its minor currency”, the authoritive English-language “classic” on Vietnamese cash coins prior to its publication going in full detail on the history, and circumstances (both economically wth resource management as well cultural with various “religious” (read: Superstitious) reasoning behind the content of the alloys), the descriptions of the coins should also be uploaded (further below), all of these files are hand-drawn Vietnamese (Annamese/Annamite) cash coins, though they are somewhat factually inaccurate due to them only following a single Chinese calligraphic style. They are all images from the same book and number exactly at --- images.
How the files should be organised:
The files themselves should all be named “Toda Nr.[number]” and then if possible their inscription in Chinese characters. The description below the files could be like exempli gratia title = “Toda No. 1. 太平興寶“ description is “Quote: “ (Barker: 1.6-1.16) Obverse: 太平興寶 Thai-binh-hung-bao. Reverse: The character 丁 Dinh, the name of the Dynasty.” - Ed Toda, Annam and its minor currency, 1882” Maybe again with a link 🔗 to the appropriate page. It should copy all the text until the next image, it should not any text before that chapter’s first image. Even long text should be copied as these illustrations mostly rely on their context.
With “the appropriate page” I mean that if it were ploaded from “http://art-hanoi.com/toda/15.html” then that specific link 🔗 should be listed as “the source”.
Where white-spaces exist between paragraphs “
” could (or should) be added.
The files should be made in a new category called “Category:Illustrations from Annam and its minor currency by Ed Toda” which in itself falls under “Category:Coins of Vietnam”, and “Category:Eduard Toda”.
- Which license tag(s) should be applied?
The license that should be applied is “
The author died in 1941, so this work is in the public domain in its country of origin and other countries and areas where the copyright term is the author's life plus 80 years or fewer. This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1929. | |
This file has been identified as being free of known restrictions under copyright law, including all related and neighboring rights. |
” as the book was published in Shanghai (though the writer is Hispanic ABD/and if it were published in Spain the copyright © would still be valid until 2022, but it completely falls outside of this in both Chinese, and U.S. American law).
Each file should contain at the author “Eduardo Toda y Güell (though Dr. R. Allan Barker, “the Qui-Gon Jinn of Vietnamese cash coins” hypothesises that Toda’s wife drew them)” (I put a part in there as I'm a joker 🃏), or on a more serious note “Eduardo Toda y Güell (though Dr. R. Allan Barker hypothesises that Toda’s wife drew them)” as the authorship isn't 100% known, while the source should list their appropriate page at “Art-Hanoi” a website operated by Sema (known on Wikipedia as @Pyvanet~commonswiki: ) for appropriate attribution.
- Is there a template that could be used on the file description pages? Do you think a special template should be created?
"Template:PD-scan"
Donald Trung (talk) 13:17, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
How and where I would use these images on Wikipedia
For how I would use these images please see w:nl:Gebruiker:Donald Trung/Lijst van Vietnamese kèpèngs (geïdentificeerde munten) where I plan on adding an illustration next to the mentioned coin where applicable, and users can see more information ℹ on the coins by clicking on the images, and next to the Toda illustrations I would add an actual photograph of the coin (if they are available on Wikimedia Commons, which most unfortunately aren't). --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 11:32, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Why this book (and its illustrations) are (still) important
The text itself is public domain and according to the Numismatic Bibliomania Society this book is still considered to be the main English language reference when dealing with Vietnamese cash coins.
“The E-Sylum: Volume 9, Number 47, November 19, 2006, Article 13. ONLINE BOOK: ANNAM AND ITS MINOR CURRENCY BY ED. TODA”
“Regarding last week's featured website (art-hanoi.com/collection), Dave Kellogg writes: "I know of a related website that I could not reach through the link above. It is an on-line copy of Ed Toda's book (1882) on ancient Annamese (Vietnamese) cash coins. It contains an interesting coin identifier feature which is a huge help for those of us who are marginally illiterate with Chinese characters. Here it is: coin identifier"
This book 📖 is still used a lot for novice Annamese (Vietnamese) cash coin collectors. The webite where I want to upload these images from operated by Sema (or Pyvanet~commonswiki) is the only online host I could find for this book 📖, of someone wants to know the coding of the website I’m sure that they could ask him. My experiences with him have been positive so far so I think that if the batch scripter wants the necessary code to script on then they could easily ask Sema.
“[The book is titled ANNAM AND ITS MINOR CURRENCY. From the web page: "This book written over 100 years ago still remains the main reference for all collectors of Vietnamese cash coins." -Editor]”
Annam and its minor currency 💲 has been used as the main English language reference for over a century, and I’m sure that these illustrations will be very useful for this subject. Even if the images won't immediately be used on Wikipedia it would still be of great educational value for Wikimedia Commons to host them.
“Dave adds: "That web page statement, "remains the main reference", is a bit of an exaggeration. That would have been true a couple of years ago if it said, "in English". There are some French references with an excellent reputation. Then, in 2004 Barker published Part 1 of what will undoubtedly become the definitive English reference. Nevertheless, Toda's on-line copy is still really helpful, and readers should know of it. Perhaps, it is still the main reference in that more people have access to it."
- © Wayne Homren, Editor”
So this book 📖 is no longer the main English language reference, but unlike Barker’s this is in public domain. There are indeed a lot of French language books 📚 that are superior to Toda’s Annam and its minor currency, however I do not have any (online) access to those, nor do I know which one of those are in the public domain. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Examples
An example of all coins from the first page would be like this:
Toda No. 1 太平興寶
Description |
English: No. 1. (Barker: 1.6-1.16)
Obverse: 太平興寶 Thai-binh-hung-bao. Reverse: The character 丁 Dinh, the name of the Dynasty. |
Date | |
Source | Annam and its minor currency (Art-Hanoi) |
Author | Eduardo Toda y Güell |
Toda No. 2 太平興寶
Description |
English: No. 2. (Barker: 1.17-1.19)
Obverse: same as before. Reverse: plain. Coins made by the king 先皇 TIEN-HOANG. White copper. Note: Though the reign title was 太平, all coins actually bear the legend 大平興寶 instead of 太平興寶 as it was stated in the original Toda's book. The former 黎 Le Dynasty. - 981-1010. General LE-HOAN ascended the throne under the name of 天福 THIEN-PHUOC, and, following the policy initiated by his predecessor, secured peace on the frontiers by successful wars against China and Ciampa. His son and successor, called LONG-VIET, was murdered by his brother 臥朝 NGOA-TRIEU, three days after he had come to power. This prince, whose conduct was extremely cruel and bad, soon afterwards proclaimed himself king and committed every kind of excess and crime, inventing new tortures and ruining the country in every way. With his death the LE Dynasty came to an end. |
Date | |
Source | Annam and its minor currency (Art-Hanoi) |
Author | Eduardo Toda y Güell |
Toda No. 3 天福鎮寶
Description |
English: No. 3. (Barker: 2.1-2.7)
Obverse: 天福鎮寶 Thien-phuc-tran-bao, or provincial coin of Thien-phuoc. At that time, as some fifty years before in China, the provinces of Annam were called 鎮 TRAN. Reverse: The character 黎 LE, the name of the Dynasty. |
Date | |
Source | Annam and its minor currency (Art-Hanoi) |
Author | Eduardo Toda y Güell |
Toda No. 4 黎
Description |
English: No. 4. (Barker: none)
Obverse: Only the character 黎 LE in the lower part of the square hole. Reverse: plain. The above two coins were cast in the 5th moon of the 5th year of 大行 DAI-HANH (986). They were made principally of white copper, and are rather smaller than the ordinary Chinese cash. |
Date | |
Source | Annam and its minor currency (Art-Hanoi) |
Author | Eduardo Toda y Güell |
I hope that these examples are clear enough for any potential scripters, if asked I will try to make them more “upload-friendly”. 😉.
Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:42, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
Opinions
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--Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:58, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Notes 📝
These are general notes about the batch request and issues I might have to address later.
- I personally think of creating a sub-category of Category:Coins of Vietnam by creating "Category:Illustrations by Eduardo Toda y Güell" or "Category:Illustrations from Annam and its minor currency". The largest problem with naming this category is the fact that the name doesn't allure to their factual inaccuracies.
- The license tag might have to note that the authorship of these illustrations from Annam and its minor currency are unknown.
- The request I wrote might've been chaotically drafted so I might have to re-write it later.
- The aforementioned category might or might not also be subsidiary to Category:Coins of French Indochina.
- The usefulness of possible hoax images should be debated, but the coins that are likely "fantasies" (as in exclusively described in Eduardo Toda y Güell's Annam and its minor currency) should be noted as such, I might have to do this manually post-upload(s).
- Near identical images should probably best be ordered by their Toda numbers (e.g. Toda No.3, Toda No.4, Toda No.5, Toda No.6, Toda No.7, Toda No.8, Toda No.9, Etc.).
- Maybe I should add dynasty-specific or chapter-specific categories post-upload.
- Toda numbers could be incorrectly numbered so the first ten (20) images should probably be organised as "Toda No. 0X" rather than "Toda No. X", though it might be easier to do this manually after the batch is completed.
--Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:58, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
In order to test the 50k limit I add this here as "filler text".
On 21:23 29 D. 11 M. 2017 A. I sent this (electronic) letter to Dr. R. Allen Barker requesting him to upload images of cash 💰 coins to Wikimedia Commons, if you by any chance came across this page and own Vietnamese cash coins yourself then please go to Category:Coins of Vietnam and Category:Coins of French Indochina and look for the cash coins that are currently missing. If you own of those then feel free to upload a picture 📷 of it. 😉 --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 10:04, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Dobating your work to Wikimedia Commons
“Dear Dr. Ba{r}ker,
Hello I am a fellow coin collector who shares an interest in the numismatic history of the Orient. To help make knowledge of the history of Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean Ryukyuan, and Japanese cash coins more freely available to everyone I started writing and expanding articles on Wikipedia that cover these subjects, after that I started uploading pictures of the cash coins I own to Wikimedia Commons. Most unfortunately I do not own as many cash coins as are featured in your wonderful books so I request that if you would find the time that you would upload pictures of your coins to Wikimedia Commons (and the images of rubbings if possible) so they can be freely shared with the world and used on Wikipedia to help illustrate these subjects.
Yours faithfully, Donald Trung Quoc Don”
If you want more images to be added to Wikimedia Commons that can help illustrate things better than what we currently have then maybe you should e-mail 📧 people with similar requests too.
Sent 📩 from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 11:19, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
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Moi Quistnix,
Ik spreek met een LSV om te kunnen coördineren hoe hij weer terug naar Wikipedia kan komen sinds hij al jaren geblokkeerd is, mijn contact met hem is off-wiki (zoals ik bijvoorbeeld met de Taiwanese sokpopkoning op Facebook bevriend ben), maar hier is iets raars, op één van de wiki’s waar hij bewerkt is er een foto van jou, ik ga dit hier niet linken vanwege privacy redenen maar als je het wil zien stuur mij dan off-wiki een bericht en indien je het weg wil stuur ik de “LSV” een verzoek om dit te doen. Het lijkt mij nogal raar dat dingen die hier niet openbaar zijn daar dat wel zijn. Ik ben tussentijds wel in gaan zien waarom hij hier al jaren niet mag bijdragen.
Disclaimer: Ik steun het gedrag of het “doxxen” van deze LSV niet, ik notificeer je hier alleen over indien je dit niet eerder wist, ik zou het ook niet van mijzelf willen dat er een foto 📷 van mij op een andere website rond zou gaan, maar misschien heb jij hier geen problemen mee.
P.S. Ik schrijf het hier omdat dit mogelijk teveel aandacht op de nlwiki zou krijgen en dat het streisanteffect kan hebben. Ik heb al een e-mail naar Wikimedia hierover een tijd geleden gestuurd maar heb nog geen reactie gekregen.
Sent from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 10:11, 12 December 2017 (UTC)