User talk:Christopher Longo

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G8 images[edit]

This has been posted near your deletion request; but frankly, I don't quite understand what would be considered amongst the conventional actions which are seen in circumstances like this one. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 00:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RESPONSE

These official photos were made available for downloading by the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA), and the link on each page quite plainly demonstrates. MOFA requested advance registration. The registration form clearly indicated that the downloaded photos were for Wikipedia use, and MOFA approved it.

It is not inconsequential that these photos have been posted as part of the article which is featured on the main page of the English Wikipedia today -- "In the news" (January 8, 2008). A not-inconsiderable amount of work went into pre-planning, downloading, and then creating a context in which these images are presented.

Christopher Longo's one-line complaint, such as it is, articulates no specific objections to which a competent response can be directed. Whatever it is which vexes him may seem obvious to him or to someone else; but frankly, I don't understand. Perhaps if the problem were explained more fully in different words, I would be able to reply or explain or engage in argument in some way ....

I'm also wondering this: Why doesn't the casual complaint-maker bear any burden of proof or persuasion in this venue?

In contrast, the information provided along with the upload would seem at least minimally straightforward and complete. Without more, this appears to be an unhelpful exercise in that the too-terse complaint provides no foundation for the kind of dialogue which would help anyone understand how to avert similar misunderstandings in the future.

As you may know, the en:34th G8 summit will produce one further day of official photos. With this "dispute" (or whatever-it-is) unresolved, I'm reluctant to invest the further time involved in uploading additional images which will enhance the usefulness of article about this event.

When the summit was concluded, my plan had been to upload relevant MOFA images to accompany articles about the four Tokyo International Conference on African Development and the en:Hideyo Noguchi Africa Prize which was first conferred in June 2008.

en:Hideyo Noguchi Africa Prize
- en:Brian Greenwood, UK -- 2008 Noguchi laureate
- en:Miriam Were, Kenya -- 2008 Noguchi laureate

Most of the additional images would have come from MOFA; but I suppose in due course, I would have sought additional images from the en:London School of Tropical Medicine and from the en:University of Nairobi or the Kenyan government. I would want to avoid the necessity for defending these additional digitized images from similarly difficult-to-parse and difficult-to-evaluate deletion threats. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 00:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC) A week ago, some question arose about the copyright status of a number of G8 summit photos which had been uploaded from the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA). The following images had been tagged for deletion:[reply]

Fukuda arriving at New Chitose Airport, July 6th - [1]
G8+8 Outreach Working Session, July 7th - [2]
G8+8 Outreach Working Lunch, July 7th - [3]
Tanabata, G8 leaders in a group, July 7th - [4]
G8 Working Lunch, July 8th - [5]
G8 Afternoon Working Session, July 8th - [6]

Follow-up[edit]

As you may recall, I responded to this perceived problem with alacrity, but I did so in a somewhat confused manner. Despite the awkward qualities of the e-letter I sent to MOFA, that attempt did engender a relatively prompt response. I hope it is not premature for me to believe that the necessary permission or release of whatever-it-is has now been satisfactorily documented?

As construed from the perspective of the Japanese government, a MOFA secretariat official has now confirmed that there was nothing improper in what I have already done. Is something else still needed? My limited experience at Wikicommons causes me to wonder if the imprecise words might not be inadequate? If the proffered paragraph is deemed sufficient, what next? I'm not sure what to do about removing those warning notices on the description page which accompanied each image?

I have already posted an update at Commons:Deletion requests/G8 images; but there may be something else I should have done? Will you please help me identify any further steps I need to take? --Ooperhoofd (talk) 15:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Permission confirmed by MOFA

from g8summit-press@mofa.go.jp

to [Ooperhoofd's e-address deleted]

date Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:33 AM

subject Re: 34th G8 Summit -- official photos, permission for use in Wikipedia context

mailed-by mofa.go.jp

Reply

Mr. ... [Ooperhoofd],

Thank you very much for your e-mail. There is no problem you use summit photos in Wikipedia as you do now, which "author" and "permission" are put down on each photo. We do not set an online set of statements concerning the prospective use of summit photos.

Regards,

Secretariat for the G8 Summit

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

重要度 : 普通発信元 : - <Ooperhoofd's e-address deleted> 日付 : 2008/07/10 06:13:23

宛先 : g8summit-press

件名 : 34th G8 Summit -- official photos, permission for use in Wikipedia context

==> Regarding the letter sent to MOFA -- see HERE for copy of full text.

Further follow-up:

As suggested by Bidgee, I re-visited en:Wikipedia:OTRS; and I did send e-mail follow-up to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 17:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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