User talk:Chinakpradhan/Archive 4

Perseverance (Mars 2020) Analyst’s Notebook

Hi, Chinakpradhan! I added the formatted links to this source both to the w:Timeline of Mars 2020 article and its Talk page. I recommend to make friends )) with this source to get the detailed description of activities for every day of the mission out of there. The database is updated once in a half-year; next revision is expected by this November. Cherurbino (talk) 08:42, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

I use it for the pds team works for msr campaign from two weeks. @Cherurbino Chinakpradhan (talk) 08:46, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

I love the data release initial report on sample tubes to be collected for mars sample return mission at https://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu/missions/mars2020/returned_sample_science.htm , but there's some error as montdenier and montagnac samples seals has same seal no., that is, SN170 and Malay sample seal has seal no. SN53 with not idea if 53 is just 053 or 153 or 253. I emailed them and no answer.

If you have some contacts please tell the correct values @Cherurbino Chinakpradhan (talk) 08:50, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

request

i knew this unexpected will happen File:LICIACube view of DART impact.gif remove this please even the frames in gif have asi lisence that is not allowed @Huntster. and i recalled the pdf for msr campaign logo Chinakpradhan (talk) 03:51, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello Chinakpradhan,

This image was added by me, so I think I should comment. I was under the impression that the image was free, as a NASA publication, analogous to File:ArgoMoon_Spacecraft.png. That file has "NASA/Italian Space Agency" as the author, and "This file is in the public domain in the United States because it was solely created by NASA" as the reason why it is in the public domain. There are more examples like it. The license given in my GIF frames was added by me. If ASI doesn't allow images published on NASA's website to be shared on Wikipedia then so be it; in that case I agree with the deletion. But I wonder why it only applies to some images and not others?

In case the problem is solved by mentioning ASI in the license, that has been done. Renerpho (talk) 04:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

see this its Credit:ASI/NASA we were comfortable if it was Credit:NASA/ASI. in this way its asi propertiary @Renerpho. same happens if an astronaut (not spacecraft) uploaded images under lisence Credit:ESA(or JAXA)/NASA Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:08, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

i also wanted but if you read my talk page huntster has said not allowed as we have no ASI lisence like nasa pd lisense we use everytime so told him to delete Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:11, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

though you added lisense or not base or source image has lisence https://www.asi.it/2022/10/nasa-presenta-gli-ultimi-aggiornamenti-della-missione-dart/ Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:13, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I do understand that the image was created by ASI and NASA. What I don't understand is the difference, as to why the ArgoMoon image from https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/argomoon_and_liciacube_ops.pdf (credit in the file: Italian Space Agency, Argotec srl), published on NASA's website, is in the public domain (credited to "NASA/Italian Space Agency"), but the LICIACube animation that NASA has published is not. As I said, if that's how we handle it then so be it, I just don't understand why. Renerpho (talk) 04:18, 12 October 2022 (UTC) As to why I wouldn't have used the standard NASA license, I didn't want to put my edit of the animation in the PD. Renerpho (talk) 04:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

thats what we wikimedians especially @Huntster didnt understand. we can say that since liciacube images are not entitled as NASA/Italian Space Agency by nasa(i mean nasa didnt reproduce it), we cannot use it.@Renerpho maybe it is because they already have draco and hst/jwst images under their belt. they didnt wanted to have liciacube Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:25, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

even see this tweet they gave liciacube image but link opens to hubble image. nasa teaches us thus to be cautious @Renerpho Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:27, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Their previous tweet linked to the LICIACube image. Looks like they got the links mixed up. Renerpho (talk) 04:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

yes and the image for nasa have lisence like NASA/APL/UMD Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:40, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

@Renerpho, where is the license "NASA/Italian Space Agency" stated in the source for the ArgoMoon image? It isn't. Whomever uploaded it assumed that was the license, likely because the conference paper was published on NASA.gov. This is a fallacy. Mere publication on NASA.gov does not remove copyright. As a rule of thumb, unless an image credit explicitly start with "NASA/" or "NASA/", etc, then it is cannot be assumed as U.S. public domain. I've nominated this image for deletion. As for the LICIAcube image, because I'm now involved in this discussion I will not delete it, but yes, it should be deleted. ASI images are copyrighted by default, and LICIAcube is a wholly Italian mission afaik. — Huntster (t @ c) 04:34, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

thanks for nomination i was also thinking of some sort of those things. i feel no lose when 2007 roscosmos logo can be deleted this fault is a baby in front of that. Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:38, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Huntster. I had assumed the other image was OK. If it is a copy-vio as well then my confusion is gone, and I agree with having my image deleted. Sad. Renerpho (talk) 04:39, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

@Renerpho, yeah, until some evidence becomes available otherwise, any LICIACube image, and frankly any image from ASI, must be considered copyrighted. — Huntster (t @ c) 04:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster see the credit line:

Credit:NASA/Johns Hopkins APL/Astronomical Institute of the Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic/Lowell Observatory/JPL/Las Cumbres Observatory/Las Campanas Observatory/European Southern Observatory Danish (1.54-m) telescope/University of Edinburgh/The Open University/Universidad Católica de la Santísima Concepción/Seoul National Observatory/Universidad de Antofagasta/Universität Hamburg/Northern Arizona University Chinakpradhan (talk) 05:04, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Lmao, I did see that. Honestly, I wouldn't touch that particular item, but it's probably okay. Just too weird for my taste. — Huntster (t @ c) 05:50, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

yes it uploaded however by me Chinakpradhan (talk) 05:52, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

no problem look for nasa thing next time and there still scope you can upload nasa things from here https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-dart-imagery-shows-changed-orbit-of-target-asteroid Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

File:Expedition 58 unofficial crew poster.jpg is this ok??@Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 10:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

I see no reason why it would not be, as it is an official NASA publication and there are no obvious copyrighted elements. However, I see it's pretty pixelated. Would you mind if I gave the conversion a try? — Huntster (t @ c) 14:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

no problem @Huntster. try out my conversion pixel in ms office paint 3d was 355*460 pixels so before i saved the conversion, increased it. mother image of exp 58 is the image in that page that was overridden with addition of logo on top left and nasa and Space Flight Awareness (SFA) Program watermarks pasted from exp 59 mother image. Chinakpradhan (talk) 15:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Slowly learning how to use Photoshop. Much more complex than what I'm used to, but pretty darn powerful. — Huntster (t @ c) 15:25, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster its surreal Chinakpradhan (talk) 16:27, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

ah wait a minute @Huntster. the nasa meatball must be on the right of full form not above Chinakpradhan (talk) 16:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately that's not possible, given the very light background to the left. Either the text is below or its removed entirely. Also, it's NASA's style guide, and we're not really under any obligation to adhere to it. — Huntster (t @ c) 16:38, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok then no problem @Huntster. Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:11, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Can you check out these categories Category:Tianwen-1 and Category:Zhurong rover @Huntster. I suspect some to be copyright violation like File:Tianwen-1 lander on Mars.jpg. Chinakpradhan (talk) 08:25, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

I will say that I don't have a great understanding of copyright laws in China, or CNSA's licensing of material. I'll have a look as time permits, but I won't promise much.

That said, why do you believe that image in particular to be a copyright violation? It's source paper is licensed under cc-by-4.0, and specifically states "The images or other third party material in this article are included in the article’s Creative Commons licence, unless indicated otherwise in a credit line to the material." — Huntster (t @ c) 13:55, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

oh then let me ask someone on this? once i published a cnsa image but was removed as copyright violation. @HuntsterChinakpradhan (talk) 14:13, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

It could be a situation like ESA where they selectively release images under a free license. I'm uncertain. — Huntster (t @ c) 19:07, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 03:08, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Just can you suggest a website where png is completely converted to svg without any loss in text and quality??@Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 18:21, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

I honestly cannot recommend any of them I've tried so far. Perhaps the best free ones are https://www.pngtosvg.com/ and https://theonlineconverter.com/convert-png-to-svg, but even their "best" is not really great. I've probably tried a couple dozen online editors and none of them are very good, even with fairly simple graphics. If you want to go with a paid option, https://vectormagic.com/ actually does a pretty darn good job, but isn't cheap. — Huntster (t @ c) 21:12, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster maybe there's some problem here at File:Space station size comparison.svg, please fix it. Chinakpradhan (talk) 09:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

i searched and found https://www.aconvert.com/image/ which is good and free but output is preview-less. Chinakpradhan (talk) 10:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

I've reverted to the last good version of that image. Acovert, and several other sites that yield "perfect" conversions, are actually fake. They do not convert the image into an actual vector format, but merely wrap the raster image in an SVG shell. That's why the file size is so small in your new uploads compared to the previous uploads. If you open the Aconvert file in Notepad, you'll see a long string of random characters preceded by "data:image/png;base64", which is what it looks like when an image is merely wrapped.

If you're looking to get the image updated, I recommend talking to the folks at Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop. — Huntster (t @ c) 19:40, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster Or Huntster can I simply make a image in png and give it to a wiki person to convert to svg. Chinakpradhan (talk) 01:25, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Yes, if you make a png and ask for help converting it at the Illustration Workshop, that would probably be easiest. — Huntster (t @ c) 03:47, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster There are huge no of flaws in current comparison for Tiagong station so some recommended this design this Design can I put it in that pic as he provided me with framework. I have actually roughly made it in the last version of you look except moving the solar panels to s ok des. So can I use it??? Chinakpradhan (talk) 01:31, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

If that individual gives you permission under the stated license, then sure. But not until and unless they do. — Huntster (t @ c) 03:47, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

MOTD Notification

⭐ A file you uploaded is on the main page! ⭐ File:DART AnimatedSequence-2020 from launch to impact along with separation of LICIACube.webm, that you uploaded, is on the main page today. Thank you for your contributions to this project.

//EatchaBot (talk) 00:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for allowing me to get this privilege. I will continue to help this wiki for media files like this Chinakpradhan (talk) 03:06, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

protection against vandalism

@Huntster i saw en:Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/DART asteroid redirection impact. nice it is recognized and i have nominated it for media of the day file.

BTW, this was not the reason to call you here. thing is, i wanted to know how to stop vandalism of my talk page see my talk page history once. i got 23 notifications and i thought of doing something big thing that was wrong but it turned out to be just a shit of vanalism. Chinakpradhan (talk) 03:40, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it's always nice to see an image you uploaded is recognized. Regarding the vandals, there's not really a way to stop it entirely. There are malicious people in the world, unfortunately. Yes, the page could be protected from IP editors, but that is frowned upon except in extreme cases. If this vandalism gets worse, I'll consider doing that. — Huntster (t @ c) 05:00, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

ok and its we uploaded (you corrected the transcode problem) @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 07:08, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster not again!! I don't know how they target this page I have linked my Wikipedia profile on my twitter bio. But it never gets affected, nor its talk page nor my Wikimedia profile page. I thought some one reverted this but it turns out malicious again. Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:43, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

I totally agree with your words on where protection is given and that we can't stop vandalists. But it will good if I can get Commons:SEMI for 1 months as they see that this page is not able to be edited by them. They will shift there focus and later no more vandalism Chinakpradhan (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

 Done, that's reasonable.

Also, regarding File:X-37B concludes mission (221111-F-XX000-0004).jpg, this was unfortunately inappropriately included in the recent OTV-6 releases. It's actually a Boeing photo, as seen at https://www.spaceforce.mil/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2002295322/. With your permission, I'd like to simply remove the file, otherwise I'll have to send it through the deletion process. — Huntster (t @ c) 18:12, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

You see both are from different angles making me think 2 photographers were side by side see that the service module visibility in both the images. @HuntsterChinakpradhan (talk) 03:37, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Possible, but the other issue is that one image was purportedly taken on 5 June 2020, and this new image taken...November 12? I also guarantee you that the OTV-6 vehicle was not taken from runway and immediately mounted vertical for encapsulation. My point is that the new image is highly suspicious. — Huntster (t @ c) 06:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

to clear suspicion involve someone to know on this matter whether both are different and by different authors or boeing released one (BRO) is a crop of non boeing released one (NBRO). i saw the marking on the top of service module of NBRO matches the markings at bottom of BRO telling BRO was a crop of NBRO. that would be better. once resolved delete or keep depending on conclusion.@Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 06:33, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

And thank you I bet the vandalism will vanish now Chinakpradhan (talk) 03:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

nominated File:Kalam 100.jpg (from here) and File:Skyroot New Logo.jpg for deletion. not sure if the logo is current or modified form, allowed on wikimedia commons under {{pd-textlogo}} lisence. @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 06:06, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster we cherish that SLS launched. But see the effort laid on a wikipedian by this for updating. Chinakpradhan (talk) 11:49, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

You've certainly done a lot! Good job. — Huntster (t @ c) 15:54, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

thank you Chinakpradhan (talk) 16:05, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

was possible if all wikis has people like me keen to updating. I invested 9 hours. 1st hour I was literally confused for every sat orbit. Even at the last I realised CuSP is a new solar probe @Huntster. But i feel sorry for omotenashi its only lander and is giving tumbling signals hope like capstone it revives Chinakpradhan (talk) 16:11, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

NASA did say during the press conference that at least one of the smallsats may not have enough power to complete its mission due to the delays in launch, so Omotenashi may have been that victim. Not sure as I've not been following the smallsat story in any way. — Huntster (t @ c) 16:14, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

afaik, @Huntster omotenashi was allowed to recharge batteries Chinakpradhan (talk) 16:30, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

something else Chinakpradhan (talk) 16:30, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

looks like i did something wrong as per given transcripts please correct it @Huntster Chinakpradhan (talk) 04:57, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Correct. Timed Text must follow a very specific format. See TimedText:Cosmic_Dust_Rings_Spotted_by_NASA's_James_Webb_Space_Telescope.webm.en.srt for an example. Honestly, when the captions are merely sound effects, I wouldn't worry about uploading a TT for Commons. — Huntster (t @ c) 14:20, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

what?? @HuntsterChinakpradhan (talk) 09:52, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, it's really unfortunate. But blame can squarely be laid at the mess that is Psyche's software problems delaying the mission. Given the amount of work done, I hope a future launch availability can be found for Janus, or that they can be retasked for a new target. Like DSCOVR and a few other missions, the spacecraft can at least be put into storage. — Huntster (t @ c) 14:15, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

How long can something be kept in storage?? I remember that Ukranian sich 2-30 and Russian prichal and it's progress m-um (due to nauka launch delays) were in storage the most time. Anything more than that??@HuntsterChinakpradhan (talk) 15:21, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

DSCOVR was in storage for, what, about 15 years? Not sure beyond that. — Huntster (t @ c) 17:56, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 21:09, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

How's this Category:Vikram-S Prarambh all are isro images @Huntster solution for all those images I deleted after launchChinakpradhan (talk) 17:11, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

OMOTENASHI missed moon due to negligible communications. Looking for a secondary mission if contact is resecured. Chinakpradhan (talk) 18:14, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

SAAO University allowed me images uploaded of dart impact by Nicolas Erasmus (SAAO) and Amanda Sickafoose (PSI) through email Chinakpradhan (talk) 06:37, 22 November 2022 (UTC)