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PD-Italy trasferito

Ciao. Ho appena fatto il mio primo "trasferimento" da Wikipedia a Commons - File:Juventus FC 1971-72.jpg -, potresti dare un'occhiata per vedere se è tutto a posto con le licenze? Ad es. non so se dovrei togliere la seconda licenza {{PD-1996|Italia|1 gennaio 1996}} relativa agli Stati Uniti («...pubblicata per la prima volta prima del 1978...»), dato che ho preso l'immagine da SportWeek di questa settimana; per il momento l'ho oscurata. Grazie in anticipo per il tuo tempo. --Danyele (talk) 16:59, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

È proprio Milan-Juventus (1-4) del 31 ottobre 1971; quella del tacco di Bettega, per intenderci. Su Magliarossonera.it si vede come la squadra indossasse proprio una maglia a maniche corte - magari ci sarà stata un'ottobrata meneghina :-D -; inoltre basta confrontare il poster dell'Intrepido relativo quella partita (in particolare la posizione dei bracci destri tenuta da Capello e Furino) per avere conferma che si tratta della stessa posa dell'immagine di SportWeek, solo scattata da angolazione diversa. --Danyele (talk) 00:17, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Segnalazione

Ciao, non so se su Commons vige il NUI però ti segnalo utente L737E che non solo ha caricato un contenuto in sospettissimo copyviol ma penso non abbia scelto nemmeno a caso il nick, dato che fa parte di un cluster cross-wiki monoscopo (fortemente ideologizzato politicamente) da cui sono stato attaccato a livello personale in modo molto violento nel corso di una PdC relativa agli argomenti trattati da questo gruppo di utenze (musicisti legati ai cori del partito comunista giapponese). Te lo segnalo per monitoraggio. Ciao e buon lavoro. --L736E (talk) 12:31, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Licenze Nationaal Archief

Ciao. Ho caricato File:Juventus FC - Enschede, 1971 - L. Spinosi, F. Capello, F. Morini.jpg con licenza CC BY 4.0 Internazionale, cioè quella riportata nella scheda su Nationaal Archief. Ho però visto che su Commons esiste il template {{Nationaal Archief}} (che non ho ben capito a cosa serva di preciso) e soprattutto il template-licenza {{Nationaal Archief-license}}, che però vedo riporta la diversa licenza CC BY-SA 3.0 NL. Devo usare esclusivamente questi due template per i file del Nationaal Archief, o cos'altro? --Danyele (talk) 19:23, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

aiuto foto Toponomastica

Ciao, intanto grazie per la tua presenza !!! Abbiamo problemi con le foto caricate da me user:giaccai e user:mpercolini. Queste foto sono in una pagina che ne dichiara la disponibilità in CC BY SA. Cosa possiamo fare? Ciao --Susanna Giaccai (talk) 09:13, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Country" template no more working

Dear Blackcat,

I noticed that the template "Country" is no more working: it always gives the name of the country in English.

You can see a test here: User:Dodeeric/Test.

I see that you added the "Soviet Union" on July 13. I am wondering if that is not the cause of the problem: it is the only country in the list which has no space just before the "}}" at the end.

As it is now:

|SU={{#ifexist: Template:Soviet Union | {{Soviet Union|1={{{lang|}}}|nolink={{{nolink|}}}}} | Soviet Union}}

Maybe it should be (not sure at all):

|SU={{#ifexist: Template:Soviet Union | {{Soviet Union|1={{{lang|}}}|nolink={{{nolink|}}}}} | Soviet Union }}

Can you check as that template is protected.

Thanks,

--Dodeeric (talk) 09:50, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cancellazione di due immagini da commons

Ciao Ti scrivo per chiederti delucidazione in merito alla prossima cancellazione, notificatami da un msg di un admin, di due immagini che avevo caricato.

Le immagini sono le seguenti: Trasformazione Sheen Jeeg.jpg e Himika.jpg.

E sono screenshot effettuati da me direttamente dal video dell'anime. Non sono esperto di wiki e quindi quando le ho caricate ho cliccato sull'opzione "immagine derivata da screenshot" attribuendomene in un certo senso la paternità (in più una delle due è elaborata da me con l'unione di 4 immagini)

Non ti scrivo ovviamente per protestare, ma per capire se e quale possa essere stato il mio errore in maniera da non ripeterlo in futuro

Grazie mille — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theguiss (talk • contribs) 10:21, 03 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Img doppione

Ciao caro, ti segnalo che si può cancellare File:Vizzini in May.jpg, dato che è identica a (e ha un titolo più generico di) File:Vizzini 2009.jpg. --pequod ..Ħƕ 10:25, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Avezzano

Ciao Sergio può essere creato il template:Avezzano per esempio sul modello di questo: Cerveteri?--Marica Massaro (talk) 12:51, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Grazie lo stesso :( chiedo a DenghiùComm --Marica Massaro (talk) 21:34, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oddio ho dato uno sguardo veloce alla tua cronologia mi è sfuggito...Grasssie Sergio, avviso Denghiù :) --Marica Massaro (talk) 07:50, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Immagini

Ho notato Special:ListFiles/Interista1908, in particolare le GIF che immagino tratte da video...non se per le GIF vale come per gli screenshot.--Goletta (talk) 09:50, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright sul volantino di uno sciopero

Leggendomi i vari papielli sul copyright non sono riuscito a capire se posso considerare caricabile su commons la copia di un volantino dattiloscritto di uno sciopero avvenuto più di 75 anni fa. Non sono riuscito ad inquadrarlo né come poster né come advertisement. Io non posseggo il volantino ma molte copie si trovano su internet. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]. Posso caricare una di queste oppure no? --Hypergio (talk) 01:33, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

kit pescara

ciao sergio, scusa il disturbo ma potresti pensarci tu?--Luca•M 13:38, 11 August 2016 (UTC) PS ogni parola è un link diverso.[reply]

grazie mille, manca solo ‎questa.--Luca•M 13:45, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
hanno già fatto, grazie lo stesso.--Luca•M 13:48, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
aggiunti.--Luca•M 13:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to the Medal of Honor categories

Greetings, I noticed recently that you made some changes to some categorization regarding some Medal of Honor recipients and I'm not sure I agree with the move. In one case you seemed to move images from Category:United States Marine Corps Medal of Honor recipients to Category:Recipients of the United States Marine Corps Medal of Honor. The problem with this is not all of them were recipients of the "Marine Corps" medal of honor. Some Marine Corps personnel received the Medal from other branches, such as the Army. So to me, saying that a person is a Marine Corps medal of honor recipient simply means they were a marine that received a Medal of Honor, the way you changed it infers that they all received the Marine Corps Medal and that isn't true.

Additionally, as you can see here there was a naming standard in place for the various service members that is not the case anymore. This also doesn't line up with the way the categories are reflected in the English Wikipedia where most of the Medal of Honor articles reside nor does it align with Wikidata. Not that the latter are such big deals, but I think they all factor in together. Reguyla (talk) 20:40, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Edit

Cosa ti devo dire... Sono profondamente amareggiato, non vedo vie d'uscita. Spero che altri interventi, migliori del mio, producano un rinsavimento. Ma non ci conto troppo. --Castagna (talk) 22:34, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, "non fa niente". Questa deriva "social", che sta mettendo l'aspetto relazionale al di sopra di quello redazionale, è grave. Blocchi con motivazioni false per me non sono accettabili, e ancor meno accettabile è l'acquiescenza comunitaria. Evidentemente Supernino è in linea con l'odierna it.wiki: io, no. --Castagna (talk) 22:08, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Dubito che non abbiano visto. E hanno scelto di non intervenire.--Castagna (talk) 23:32, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Aspetto relazionale? Su tiwikipedia è pieno di gente che se frega ancora semplicemente si fa finta di non vederlo. Mi diverto sempre a linkare la discussioni dove tizio offende qualcuno e corrono in cinque a cambiar argomento. Tutta scena.

Tu eri più innocuo che altro, facevi perdere tempo ai niubbi ma c'era sempre qualcuno a calmierarti. Quando invece il niubbio si trova davanti chi con tante belle parole non gli linka la pagina guida che serve, a quello chi ci pensa? Io parlo con non pochi utenti al mese, in privato o che altro. Di te non gliene frega nulla, non so se sia una bella notizia per il tuo ego o che altro ma davvero, è più "chissene". Anzi ai niubbi essere "protetti" da te dava l'illusione che il sistema funzionasse. Mi ricorda l buonanima Cotton, che trattava sopratutto gli utenti storici un po' bruscamente e fu deflaggato "come esempio" magari pure per questi poveri nubbi a cui tutti a chiacchere hanno a cuore. Ci riderei se fosse vivo. Che poi a parte la sostanza, nemmeno funziona in termini di immagine. Quando lasci passare troppo tempo poi anche "venderlo come un messaggio" (o simile) suona fasullo. Perché prima no? Cioè al niubbio bloccato per una sciocchezza che ritiene di aver avuto un doppio trattamento non è che il tuo blocco adesso lo convince dl contrario, tutt'altro :D Ti ricordi quando al blocco di due mesi molti fecero finta di non averlo visto?

Comunque rimane il fatto che prima "ti creano" (facendoti fare per anni cosa ti pare) e poi "ti distruggono" il tutto senza che per i niubbi e gli utenti in ns0 cambi sostanzialmente nulla. Sono anni che in teoria "fanno pulizia" eppure la percezione è tutt'altro che migliorata. C'è solo un sacco di gente che si dice che è migliorata, ma per chi arriva è un inferno diverso ma sempre inferno. E tu non sei mai stato il diavolo peggiore.

Comunque ti avevo suggerito la scorsa volta di fare il volontario OTRS, almeno adesso avresti più cose utili da fare e stavi più lontano da wiki (cosa che mi costò l'ennsima rampogna pubblica). All'epoca Ruthven non era ancora sysop (qualcuno aveva a cuore che gli it-N fossero solo sysop nel nostro OTRS linguistico, cosa abbastanza inutile) ma sulle immagini avresti aiutato. Mi punzecchiasti in talk e non lo facesti, ma secondo me è un'opportunità persa.

Ciao.--Alexmar983 (talk) 14:54, 21 August 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Copertina di libro

Ciao magister, non ti sembra che questo file sia da cancellare? Grazie. --pequod ..Ħƕ 00:52, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Non c'è problema, tanto se scrivi qui me ne accorgo anche su it.wiki. Ciao e grazie! --pequod ..Ħƕ 10:24, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Amministratore di itWiki

A disposizione. --Hypergio (talk) 05:57, 19 August 2016 (UTC) (se si tratta di una mole imponente di lavoro posso fare stasera... durante il giorno dovrei anche lavorare)[reply]

Per il momento mancano solo Rosso con Diagonali Bianche.png, 600px Azzurro e Bianco (Strisce).png e 600 px Granata con riquadro Bianco.png. Sugli altri puoi già lavorare (cancellare). Li finisco più tardi. --Hypergio (talk) 12:32, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, più tardi controllo tutti i puntano qui. --Hypergio (talk) 14:56, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Altro che lavoro da amministratore... roba da raccogliori di cotone. Comunque, per adesso ti ho ripulito completamente 600px Azzurro Bianco Azzurro Rosso Nero Rosso.png, 600px Azzurro e Bianco (Strisce)2.png e 600 px Granata con riquadro Bianco.png mentre per tutte quelle del primo gruppo sono non più utilizzate da template. Domani valuto se è il caso di chiedere l'intervento di un bot. --Hypergio (talk) 18:37, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
La seconda puntata è finita. La prima no. --Hypergio (talk) 20:45, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Patata del Fucino

Ciao Sergio ho creato la categoria specifica della patata del Fucino ma non saprei come categorizzarla nella ctg "madre". Ho visto la ctg principale ma guardando qui forse andrebbe creata la sottocategoria "Potatoes in the agriculture of Italy" e inserita lì? --Marica Massaro (talk) 13:41, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Va bene grazie Sergio ;) --Marica Massaro (talk) 13:45, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Grazie Sergio ho sistemato la...ctg ;) --Marica Massaro (talk) 13:58, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Duke of Avezzano

Non esistono fonti verificabili (web/cartaceo) su questo "fantomatico" duca: Vittorio Paulo Iezzi!!. Ho rimosso la ctg "Men of Avezzano" non so se andrebbe posto un avviso specifico, sicuramente andrebbero rimosse le altre ctg ("Duke of Italy" e "Abruzzo"). Ho avvisato anche en.wiki dove da qualche giorno è stata creata questa pagina tutta da verificare, ma al momento assolutamente inattendibile. --Marica Massaro (talk) 07:17, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Grazie mille anche per il tuo intervento in en.wiki ;) --Marica Massaro (talk) 07:41, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Stella brutta

Fatto. --Hypergio (talk) 23:20, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

M'era sfuggita. --Hypergio (talk) 20:34, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Non mi sono dimenticato... la sto solo prendendo con calma. --Hypergio (talk) 22:17, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Risposta

Non essendo una questione privata, rispondo nella discussione pubblica.--Arbalete (talk) 00:02, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Uso libero delle opere protette dalla legge sul diritto d'autore art. 70 e sue variazioni

Mi scuso per l'insistenza, ma ho poca confidenza con le modalità di discussione su W.
Ho aperto una discussione anche con Ruthven con lo stesso titolo. Non so se hai letto. Purtroppo io non posso accettare che il Diritto italiano sia subordinato a quello statunitense. Non capisco perchè debba esserci una egemonia di una legislazione su un altra. La legge italiana è chiara: l'uso dell'articolo 70 (citazione) consente la pubblicazione su internet se fatta non a scopo di lucro. Non parla assolutamente degli usi terzi che possano essere fatti in violazione delle leggi. Non ripeto tutto qui, ti pregherei di leggere la discussione e trarne le tue deduzioni che accetterei volentieri.
--Asch58 (talk) 08:30, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:RIC 0476.jpg

L'immagine è stata cancellata (nonostante avessi messo l'indicazione richiesta: https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=223138)

Probabilmente qualcuno ha il dito più veloce degli occhi (la cosa gli è stata fatta notare da qualcun altro nella sua pagina di discussione).

Che mi consiglia il sysop miagolante?

  1. caricare nuovamente il file cancellato con lo stesso nome e tutte le indicazioni del caso
  2. caricare il file cancellato con nome un po' più comprensibile
  3. caricare con nome vecchio e chiedere spostamento a nome più comprensibile.

Thank you for an answer (si dice così, nevvero?)

--Carlomorino (talk) 08:02, 5 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Darja & Co.

Ciao, Sergio. Scusa il disturbo. Ricorderai senz'altro la lunga questione (ancora non conclusa) con Darja82, Doncarloss e tutti i loro amici che amano sommergere wikipedia e commons di indispensabili immagini di ottima qualità... Dopo una pausa di un paio di settimane in cui probabilmente era andato in vacanza (ci fosse rimasto...), è tornato lunedì con l'ennesima reincarnazione, bloccata ieri dopo CU. Siccome però in passato, dopo qualche tempo che erano stati bloccati su it.wiki, ha sempre utilizzato i vecchi sock per caricare le immagini (faticosamente) cancellate su it.wiki qui su commons, andrebbe bloccata anche qui, ma risulta ancora non registrata; si può bloccare lo stesso o occorre attendere la registrazione qui su commons? Ti ringrazio molto. Rispondimi pure qui da te, se ti va--2.32.174.92 19:35, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Serve si registri. Se è una vecchia utenza possibile che il SUL non abbia funzionato. Tieniti sintonizzato su questa pagina, capace che avrò altre cose da dirti. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 20:54, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Si è registrato su it.wiki il 27 luglio ma vi ha fatto i primi edit lunedì. Chissà quanti altri amici ha intenzione di farci conoscere...
Me la sentivo che servisse la registrazione. Grazie. Ho messo la tua pagina fra i miei OS. Buona notte e buon lavoro--2.32.174.92 22:49, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fotografo e parenti

Ciao, volevo scrivere al bar, ma poi mi son detto che avresti comunque risposto te (o al limite Jaqen). Bazzicando nell'OTRS in lingua inglese, ho visto che dicono che si accettano foto fatte da familiari dell'uploader, dai suoi dipendenti o fatte da un altro con la sua macchina fotografica. Ora, mi si è sempre detto che ci voleva l'autorizzazione del fotografo e basta. Posso capire che nel caso dei dipendenti, il copyright appartenga al datore di lavoro, ma per amici e parenti? Ci sono tag per indicare in source autori di questo tipo? Grazie --Ruthven (msg) 08:21, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Normalmente per i parenti si presume buona fede, Ruthven; per gli amici è un po' più tosta, almeno due righe di autorizzazione se non un OTRS vero e proprio... Anche se in questi casi io chiedo sempre al titolare, se lo conosco, di caricare lui personalmente. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 08:26, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ruthven: Se qualcuno fa una foto con la mia macchina fotografica o col mio cellulare è normale che sia io a caricarla (es. File:Wikimedia Conference 2013-04-18 26.JPG o File:Museo Caproni wikigita and editathon - August 2016 - group photo.jpg), e in alcuni casi (es. foto fatta da un passante) non sarebbe nemmeno possibile chiedere a posteriori il permesso a chi l'ha effettivamente fatta. (Non so se ci sia giurisprudenza sul tema, ma sospetto che i diritti sulla foto in un caso genere siano del proprietario della macchina fotografica.)
Per quanto riguarda i familiari: qualche volta mi è capitato di caricare foto fatte da mio padre o mio fratello, perché loro non avevano voglia di farlo. Gli avessi detto che c'era da fare un ticket OTRS probabilmente m'avrebbero detto di dire che l'avevo fatta io. Probabilmente nella policy di OTRS c'è anche la volontà di andare a rompere le scatole alle famiglie :D
In compenso anni fa m'avevano messo in cancellazione una foto che avevo caricato per conto di un'amica e avevo dovuto fare un ticket OTRS.
In ogni caso non mi pare ci siano template appositi per questi casi, direi che l'importante è che si capisca. --Jaqen (talk) 08:50, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jaqen: , in realtà, se tu carichi una foto fatta da un altro con la tua macchina, provare che sia stato effettivamente un altro è una probatio diabolica a meno che non si tratti della classica situazione di tu che ti fai fotografare a fianco di una celebrità con la tua macchina da qualcun altro... -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 08:56, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
PS Potremmo proporre il template {{Miocuggino}} :-)

Bad name

Ciao, desideravo segnalarti tre categorie il cui titolo, in inglese maccheronico, andrebbe corretto:1) Category:Paints of Galleria d'Arte Moderna (Palermo); 2) Category:Paints of Francesco Lojacono at Galleria d'Arte Moderna (Palermo); 3) Category:Portraits of Galleria d'Arte Moderna (Palermo). L'autore dello scempio linguistico è in tutti e tre i casi lo stesso: User:Codas. Visto lo zelo con cui opera, forse bisognerebbe farglielo notare. Ubi Maior... Cordialmente --VanVitello (talk) 21:46, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ditemi l'errore e correggiamo... --User:Codas (talk) 07:04, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Codas: sarebbe piuttosto "Paintings by Francesco Lojacono in Galleria d'Arte Moderna (Palermo)" ad esempio. Un quadro si dice painting, per dire che l'autore è qualcuno si dice by e per dire che le opere sono in un posto si dice in (es: Portraits in Galleria d'Arte Moderna (Palermo)). --Ruthven (msg) 09:17, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, sistemato. Grazie. --Codas (talk) 10:41, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Samuele Piazza: , tutto giusto, ma perché mi avete fatto 'sta discussione all'inizio della pagina? Sono diventato matto per trovarla, perché mi aspetto di trovarla in fondo... -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:21, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Orfanizzazioni

Hypergio, Supernino e Pequod, qui ci sono delle orfanizzazioni per voi, quando avete tempo. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 15:52, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao. Non è chiarissimo il da farsi. Ci sono file senza link entranti, quindi non so il file sostituito e se è orfano. Altra cosa, i file originali vanno sostituiti solo dal ns template o anche dal ns0? --Supernino (talk) 11:51, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ripeto: "Ci sono file senza link entranti" (es.). A me basterebbe che per ogni img aggiungi semplicemente il nome di quella sostituita a fianco e chiarire se la sostituzione pgn->svg la si può/deve fare anche in ns0 o c'è da procedere solo nel ns template. Sostituire automaticamente col template si potrebbe solo se si individua una specifica sintassi da ricercare (tipo uno specifico parametro di template), altrimenti si rischia di generare troppi errori. Dimmi tu. --Supernino (talk) 13:17, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Quali sono quelli senza link entranti, e sì, la sostituzione andrebbe fatta anche in NS0, fermo restando, come detto, che in NS0 non dovrebbero starci e tenuto conto delle implicazioni negative che mi hai esposto sul "bottizzare". -- Ciao. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 13:33, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Te li ho aggiunti in fondo alla lista quelli senza un file png entrante. --Supernino (talk) 16:05, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Spam

Se sei ancora collegato puoi cancellare File:OW662.ogg? Spam. --ValterVB (talk) 18:46, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Subcategories of Category:California vs. Category:Categories of California

Please help clarify the category Categories of California, specifically how it differs (or should differ) from subcategories included in the California category.

The subcategories of Categories of California are mostly subdivided by county, with some subdivided by city and a few by location, so it would seem that naming the category "Categories of California by location" would be MUCH clearer (as there is nothing in the name of the category to clue the Wikimedia user as to the nature of the subcategories contained therein or to distinguish between the subcategories already included in the "California" category).

Having asked above, a "Categories of Foo by location" category could and probably should replace (and include the subcategories of) "Categories of Foo by county", "Categories of Foo by city", "Categories of Foo by region", etc., with "Foo" applying to all the 50 states of the United States, plus a few other similar categories.

An Errant Knight, "categories of XXXX" is useful for giving a consistent mother category to the categories you were creating. you were building a house from the roof :-) -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 21:30, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
PS Let's apart that imho these should be flat, non topical categories where to retrieve all the subcategories that have the topic "state".
Not disputing the need for a category, but still have the question, "How would the Wikimedia user know what subcatgories would be found under 'Categories of California' that would not be found in the 'California' category." As named, the "Categories of California" is TOO vague.An Errant Knight (talk) 21:42, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes appropriate question. The "categories of XXXX" are only those categories that have the state in the topic (thus not categories like "people of Los Angeles", "shops in Denver, Colorado" and so on): only the main topical ones, no matter the hierarchy they have in the mother category of a given state. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 21:44, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
PS Also, Categories of the United States is too vague as it is :-)
Your response is confusing. . . The question is which subcategories would belong in the "California" category and which would belong in the "Categories of California"? Your answer seems to be ALL of the categories which have "California" in the name. If so, then there are NO subcategories left in the "California" category (except possibly the "Categories of California" category). That would mean that there would be no need for one of the two categories. PLEASE clarify. An Errant Knight (talk) 02:56, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Additional related note, your "People of the United States by state" template places "People of California" in BOTH the California and the Categories of California categories. (The other states have the same results.)An Errant Knight (talk) 03:11, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe because you're seeing "categories of California" as a hierarchical category. It should be instead intended as a non topical category (sort of flat). It is an unicum in the Commons categorization because no other countries have subcategories for first-level administrative subdivisons like the states of the United States. That apart, if you want a children category "Categories of California by [topic]", there should be a mother category [Categories of California] and another upper category which collects all the categories for states; otherwise the category "categories of [U.S. state) by topic" would be inconsistent lacking a mother category with the same synthiax.... -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 21:01, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, that makes a lot more sense. (You are absolutely correct in that the United States is definitely unique [a unicum] with respect to its administrative subdivisions.) In seeing how the Categories of Italy is utilized, it makes ever more sense (particularly if the each of the U.S. states is treated more like, but not entirely, as if it were a country). However, even Italy has its "Categories of Italy by location" sub-subcategory. Right now there are very few subcategories would be included in the Categories of California, or any of the other states, although that will probably change. Nevertheless, there will likely never be nearly as many subcategories as do many countries. Thank you for the clarification! An Errant Knight (talk) 01:25, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gennadij Aleksandrovič Galkin

Grazie per le dritte!! Ho creato per errore questa pagina :Gennadij Aleksandrovič Galkin. Me la cancelleresti? Grazie. --Avversario (talk) 19:21, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Categorie doppione

Mi sono imbattuto in due categorie doppione, e non so cosa fare.

La prima è Category:Santa Prassede (Rome), che è ben categorizzata e segue uno schema.

Poi c'è Category:Basilica di Santa Prassede - Roma, che mi sembra "isolata" in quanto è categorizzata...nelle sue sotto-categorie. E' stata creata nel 2016 da un utente che probabilmente non aveva trovata l'altra categoria e non sapeva bene come usarle le categorie (di fatto è isolata).

Come fare ? La seconda contiene uno spropositilione di immagini.--Goletta (talk) 19:34, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Sir i used to run a bot it got removed and i've been blocked many times, can you please protect my page , i help wikimedia to fight vandalism. FatBOT (talk) 15:46, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ancora Darja

Ciao. Come prevedibile non ci possiamo liberare di quell'elemento. Ora sta caricando le solite immagini a raffica già cancellate su it-wiki col sock Lorella800, là bloccato ad agosto. Ti ringrazio--93.147.61.18 15:03, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ti aggiorno: ho richiesto la cancellazione --> Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Darja8282 - Lorella800. Se va a buon porto, magari faccio lo stesso per gli altri sock. Mi sembra assurdo che si blocchino i vandali, ma si conservino i loro file in sospetto copyviol o altro. --Ruthven (msg) 08:10, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
...e se la prende a morte quando viene bloccata ed i contributi cancellati! Detto fra noi: ha seri problemi questa donna. --Ruthven (msg) 10:32, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No! :) Ma una volta, prima di insultarmi, disse che era una donna (mi avesse detto che era un cavallo, vi avrei dato lo stesso peso) --Ruthven (msg) 12:01, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ma in questo caso, usano la tastiera come la nostra amica, malgrado gli zoccoli. --Ruthven (msg) 12:15, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
...e sicuramente è più educata. :) --Ruthven (msg) 12:31, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sei un povero idiota, volgare e maleducato, bloccato per 6 mesi per questo. Dovresti vergognarti di fare comunella e spettegolare con chi è degno di te. Ho letto bene quello che sei e come gli altri ti considerano.--Mamoiada100 (talk) 15:52, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln Square, Bellevue, Washington

Really? It is a building called "Lincoln Square"; it isn't actually a "square"/plaza. - Jmabel ! talk 16:44, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, is a snare due to distraction. In my language (Italian) "piazza" means "Square" and by distraction I categorized that place into squares. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:51, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • That's what I in figured. It's the normal meaning here, too, but this is an exception. We sometimes have buildings named "Square" or "Plaza". And, yes, it's kind of weird even as a native English-speaker. - Jmabel ! talk 17:04, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh yes Jmabel. I have also noted that in your country often the streets don't match the attribute of their type :) Not always avenues are long and straight, which pattern is usually either radial or grid iron, and not always boulevards are concentric, built around a city's centre :-) -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:15, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • In both Seattle (where I live) and New York (where I'm from) "avenue" just means it runs north-south (as against "street" for east-west). "Boulevard" in Seattle mostly means "nicely landscaped and not too steep for a bicycle": most of the streets here with that designation were laid out by the Olmsted firm in the 1890s and 1900s. - Jmabel ! talk 22:48, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Causes of death vs. Deaths by cause (categories)

Hi, Blackcat. I noticed that you moved the Causes of death category to Deaths by cause, and made it a metacat. I just wanted to let you know that since that category contained quite a few files, I have moved those files up to Category:Death, since files don't belong in metacategories. Let me know if you have any concerns about that. THanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:55, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, Auntof6, no problem at all. But, as I was also telling to Jim Woodward, the whole category "Deaths by cause" is a mess, because at a certain point one is no longer able to understand whether it is related either to the causes of someone's death or to the people who died for a given cause. There is also "Dead people by manner of death‎" which sounds likely a duplicate of "Deaths by cause".... there is also inconsistency in the synthiax: one dies "of", "for" or "from" something? My opinion is that we should sit at a table and attempt to fix that situation, and build a consistent tree of metacats and children categories. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 21:57, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it would be good to straighten that out. There is a related discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2015/12/Category:Deaths by cause that might interest you.--Auntof6 (talk) 22:00, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea, Auntof6. I left a comment there, though I must admit that sometimes I feel frustrated because those discussions often last years without reaching a feasable conclusion.... -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 22:20, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category talk:Train stations in the United Kingdom

Have you seen this? There appears to be no consensus for moving from "railway stations" to "train stations", at least not without a fresh discussion. I suggest you start one before proceeding further, unless (I've missed something. Cheers. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:17, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the consensus for this move, please? Lamberhurst (talk) 11:17, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The correct terminology in British English is "Railway station", not "Train station", hence the existing categories are correct. Perhaps a discussion would have been better before clogging my watchlist with reverted changes! Optimist on the run (talk) 13:16, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Optimist on the run, still we have a problem with the consistency of the categories. Correctly we categorize "Association football in England" and "Association football in the United States", not "Football in England" and "Soccer in the United States", I am sure you grasp the paragon. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 13:24, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That proposal seems to have petered out years ago. Without any strong argument to support a change to many (hundreds of) categories we seem to have stayed with 'railway stations'. I, for one, am more than happy with that. Geof Sheppard (talk) 07:19, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Geof, as I said, even with "Rail stations" I won't lose no sleep. I was just worried for the consistency of the categorization. Take for example a fresh Wikicommoner just accustomed to the naming "Train stations in". When they try to categorize a station in the UK through HotCat they write "Train station in ......" and don't find anything. Consistency in categorization means that one doesn't have to imagine that a category has a different name from its mother cat for customary reasons. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:49, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think we should also bear in mind our non-Commonist users, who may be picture editors for journals of some sort. They would expect to be able to use local terminology in order to find things. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:00, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I know Rodhullandemu, but you know better than me that bending too much on that side could lead to a mess. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 10:02, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why "Architecture of Seattle"?

[7] Why would a rail yard be considered "architecture"? - Jmabel ! talk 15:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC) And, similarly, why wouldn't a facility for offloading containers from ships to trucks fall under transport? - Jmabel ! talk 15:39, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

it falls into transport. I copied into "architecture" but is also into transport, unless I made a mistake. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 15:41, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes Jmabel - I removed from "Transport in Seattle" because it already was part of "Port of Seattle" which is child cat of "Transport in Seattle". It was overcategorized. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:10, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you move Category:Springs Preserve?

Why did you move Category:Springs Preserve to Category:Las Vegas Springs Preserve? The place is not Las Vegas Springs Preserve; you will not find that name on their website https://www.springspreserve.org/ , nor will you find it on their membership cards.--Prosfilaes (talk) 13:43, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Photo requests in Rome

Hi! Do you do photo requests in Rome? If so, I would be happy to give you some ideas! WhisperToMe (talk) 04:54, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I have compiled the following list for Fiumicino and Rome:

WhisperToMe (talk) 00:30, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Posso usare questa immagine?

Ciao Blackcat, non sono capace di rispondermi da sola a questa domanda.. (e non ho avuto risposta allo sportello. Ho trovato questa immagine on-line e vorrei usare la parte sinistra con lo stemma delle Isole Curzolane appunto per la voce in questione che sto rifacendo, anche perché non c'è altro materiale ufficiale reperibile che attesti l'esistenza di questa definizione geografica. Posso usare liberamente metà di questa immagine? Grazie! --Betta27 (talk) 14:43, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

...✓ Fatto Grazie, Blackcat.. spero di aver fatto bene.... --Betta27 (talk) 15:08, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted some of your changes

Hi, Blackcat. I noticed that you changed {{Catcat}} to {{Metacat}} on some "people by name" categories. I reverted those changes. When the content of a "by name" category is categories for individual people, that category is not a metacat. In a metacat, the subcats are grouped by a common trait. For example, Category:Hotels by name contains categories grouped by hotels with the same name. The only way a "by name" category for people would be a metacat is if the subcats were things like "People named John Smith".

I know this might be confusing. It's because the "by name" category naming we use for metacats is the same as the English expression used to mean that you're talking about someone by referring to their name. A while back I suggested using different cat naming for these two things, but no one seemed interested.

Let me know if you have any questions about this, and I'm sorry for any inconvenience. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:17, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, could you please leave the translations of the categories names ? You removed this one [8], maybe by mistake ? Regards. Lionel Allorge (talk) 20:24, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate geografiche

Ciao Sergio c'è un problema con le coordinate geografiche in Category:Avezzano, si tratta di una discrepanza. Mi puoi aiutare a risolvere il problema per favore? --Marica Massaro (talk) 18:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

io difficilmente ci sarei riuscita...adesso è perfetto grasssie ;) --Marica Massaro (talk) 11:42, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

cat-a-lot

Hi, I noticed that you used cat-a-lot today. What is the secret to having success with that? I've read the instructions, but I always screw it up and have to fix it all by hand. Is there a trick to it? Thanks, Kalbbes (talk) 23:31, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kalbbes, in fact is a powerful though disruptive tool if not used properly (not because the tool itself, but because it can speed up our mistakes :-) ). My advice is that you start with one or two files or category at time in order to fix easily some errors. Select the files / category you wish to move or copy to a new category. If you select them correctly they will be hightlighted in lime colour. Then on the cat-a-lot panel click on Move or Copy in the same line of the category you wish to move or copy to. If it's been done correctly, the highlight becomes gray and will be a warning reading "Moved / copied to xxxx" where xxx is the new category. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 15:08, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. I've gotten that far. The problem for me is the arrows. I can get the lime colour and I've made sure the category exists to move items into. Then I type in that category in at the top, but inevitably the items end up uncategorised. There is something I'm not understanding. (And I do only attempt small cats, as I'm aware I'll probably have to do them over by hand.) Kalbbes (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I watched your recent contribution lists and it seems to me that you managed to categorize the files correctly though. - SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:06, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes I'd like to make wording changes like you did by cat-a-lot. Like changing "in" to "of" for consistency, but if the cat is too big to do by hand I let it go, but it bothers me! Kalbbes (talk) 18:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Richiesta pulizia

Quel povero essere ha colpito ancora (anche da te, vedo). Puoi ripulirmi la crono per favore? --Ruthven (msg) 16:26, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Grazie! --Ruthven (msg) 16:56, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ci mancherebbe, Ruthven. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:58, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Boroughs in the United States

Let me be clear: stop moving categories. You've just disrupted a large category tree with hundreds of files and hundreds of subcategories, as if it weren't enough to be disrupting an assortment of city trees, as we have recently discussed. If you persist in mass renaming without consensus, you will be blocked without further warning. Nyttend (talk) 22:11, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The category tree is "Cities in", "Villages in", etc.; it applies regardless of the municipality type. Nyttend (talk) 22:15, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do you even understand what a borough is in an American context? Outside of Alaska, it's completely different from a county. Once again: when you don't understand the subject, don't disrupt things by doing mass renamings, and if you persist, you get blocked for general disruption. Nyttend (talk) 22:24, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unusual changes without discussion

You appear to be erasing information and making a lot of nonstandard changes to categories without discussion:

  • Please do not change names like Category:Alumni of the Georgia Institute of Technology to Category:Alumni of Georgia Institute of Technology when the name is normally said with "the" inside phrases. Many names don't have "the" on the parent category because having "The" at the beginning would make most of the categories start with "T", but omitting it is awkward in the middle of a phrase when that name normally uses "the" when in noun form. This is sometimes subtle and arbitrary in English: Some names clearly are "the" in common English, some are not so clear, and some do not use "the". (And they usually don't use "the" when used as an adjective in English, which might make it more confusing to determine in context.)
  • Please do not erase descriptions without reason as you did at Category:James R. Thompson (engineer). These descriptions help people decide whether files are part of that topic.
  • Please do not erase descriptions for no apparent reason in disambiguation pages: Descriptions are there so that users can distinguish which topic is which, including determining if a person or other topic isn't for any of the existing categories. I don't know why anyone would ever erase the other common names for people or items on a disambiguation page.
  • Please do not create strange DEFAULTSORT lines like "Thompson, Jamesr" instead of "Thompson, James R." — Neither Commons nor English Wikipedia has ever alphabetized that way; I don't think Italian Wikipedia does it that way either.
  • Please do not make big changes without edit summaries. "Fix" is especially unhelpful for controversial changes in which other users can't understand the reason for the change.

Other than the "People from"→"People of" changes, you should be bringing most of this category renaming to Commons:Categories for discussion, as they appear to be against consensus, and there is almost never harm from having a CfD. Undoing large numbers of changes is much more difficult than a CfD. --Closeapple (talk) 09:18, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Immagini in copyviol?

Ciao Blackcat, temo che le immagini caricate dall'utente Just Odisseo, che poi le ha riportate sulle voci di it.wiki, siano in copyviol. Puoi confermare? --Dimitrij Kášëv 12:41, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ti segnalo inoltre che è stato riscontrato un CU positivo tra un infinitato e Just Odissseo, che resta da bloccare qui su Commons. Grazie in anticipo. --Dimitrij Kášëv 19:49, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help me understand Category:Houses by association

Hi, Blackcat. I've been working with metacats, and I came across Category:Houses by association and its subcats. The category name makes it look like it should be a metacat, but few of these categories have content that looks like a metacat. Can you tell me how these categories are supposed to be used? I'm asking you because you closed the CFD for them. Specific questions I have are:

  • Are these metacats?
  • If the are metacats, then what are the sort/grouping criteria?
  • If they are not metacats, then what does "houses by association" mean? Does it mean houses associated with an orgranization? Houses associated with a particular person or thing?
  • Do individual houses belong directly under these categories, whether as categories or files?

I might have more questions after you reply. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:40, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In theory should be a category with zero diffusion but not necessarily a metacat, because it is mainly intended for house associated to notable people (owned - possessed - inhabitated by notable people). That doesn't mean we cannot find furher subcriteria and make it an actual metacat. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:34, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of important info

I don't know if you intended to remove things here, or if that was a mistake, but I've put it back, plus your template. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:28, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please reply here, not on my talk page!
You removed the important info that Miami and Miami Beach are two different cities. Do you think that's helpful? I'm reinstating it again. If you keep removing helpful information I'll have to complain about you. Sorry! --SergeWoodzing --SergeWoodzing (talk) 09:44, 10 November 2016 (UTC)(talk) 09:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, Serge, indeed I forgot to add {{Cat see also}} atop of the category to warn that there's also Miami Beach. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:48, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 09:56, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You reverted me again without using the talk page there. There are ways of dealing with editors who behave like that. Please change that back to the clearer wording and use the talk page there if you'd like something changed that has been clear and well formulated for a long time. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:40, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[User:SergeWoodzing|Serge]], there are templates for indicating there's other categories: Cat see also is one of those. Your wording was erroneus because categories must contain items related to the topic, not should. Plus, too many words confuse the reader. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 10:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Standard templates do not fit and solve every problem. If you refuse to use the talk page for that category I will keep reinstating the clearer wording every other day until you do. And if you revert me again without using that talk page I will complain about you. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:52, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure ? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 10:55, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
100%. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:56, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bloccami Darja in evasione per cortesia

-> User: 82.49.147.254 . Grazie --Ruthven (msg) 15:45, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User Slimguy

✓ Done --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 17:12, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nuova categoria

Ciao, ho creato la Category:Italy license tags per raggruppare tutti i template relativi alle licenze italiane. Vorrei inserire anche il Template:PD-Italy, ma è giustamente protetto e non riesco ad aggiurgerci la nuova categoria. Puoi aiutarmi? --Holapaco77 (talk) 09:57, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

CFD on Architecture of Amarillo

Hi, Blackcat. Would you please include a rationale and signature on Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/03/Category:Architecture of Amarillo? Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:21, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Disc_jockeys_by_country

Category discussion warning

Disc jockeys by country has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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Themightyquill (talk) 22:56, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Euro2007

Caro Gattaccio, qui c'è un album di foto che andrebbero tutte trasferite su wiki. Sai se c'è un modo di scaricarle da flickr tutte assieme e poi caricarle tutte assieme. Cioè si può fare in 2 mosse anzichè in 91?--Avversario (talk) 22:10, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mi dice: "ATTENZIONE! Questo strumento usa OAuth per caricare i file su Commons. Assicurati di autorizzarlo prima!" Che debbo fare?--Avversario (talk) 16:03, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Categories of the United States by city

Here are the reasons for the changes I made:

  • Hardcoding the category instead of using the topic-cat parameter: {{MetaCat}} doesn't require the tooic-cat parameter, and using it makes it harder to manage categories.
  • Removing the TOC template: a category with so few entries doesn't need a TOC -- it just takes up unnecessary space on the page.
  • Removed Category:Categories by third-level administrative country subdivision: not only is this category redlinked with only one entry, but cities (as well as other types of populated places) are not country subdivisions.
  • Changed the sort key for Category:Cities in the United States from a space to an asterisk: the other subcats with a space are metacats named "Cities in the United States by <criterion>", which this is not.

I see that you've re-implemented some of these in different form after undoing my change, and that's fine. I'm going to redo some of the ones you didn't re-implement now that I've explained the reasons. If you still disagree, let's discuss. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:49, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Auntof6, asterisk is not a sort key. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 13:00, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you mean. Many categories use an asterisk for a sort key. --Auntof6 (talk)
Yes Auntof6 but I find it ineffective - let alone unconsinstent. What does sorting by asterisk mean? A blank sort key may indicate whatever is not topical for the category but what does a plus or an asterisk stand for? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 13:53, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can tell, it's a way of setting apart a group of subcategories. Sometimes I see it used for metacategories, although I see the space used for that more often. I agree that it's used inconsistently, but so is the space. --Auntof6 (talk) 14:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Auntof6 but the space has at least the advantage of telling nothing but: "It's not a topic category sorted for any of the item which are category's topic (ie a country, a name etc)". A plus or an asterisk what are telling me more than a blank sort key may tell? --SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:15, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, Blackcat, I don't understand what you're saying. If you're talking about the different sort keys being used inconsistently, then I agree. I recently tried to standardize the sort key used for metacategories, and the feedback I got was that it was OK if it was done differently in different places. That tells me that we have no rules for this, and people can manage it in any way that makes sense for the specific category they're working with. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:19, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Auntof6 I meant something similar. I want to say, there's no reason to use a "plus" sign rather than an asterisk beacuse they indicate nothing. At least a blank space, if any, indicates that the category is not topical or is not part of the category tree. But I find no sense in using other symbols than a blank because they suggest nothing about the categorization or sort criterium. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 23:18, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Altre immagini in copyviol

Ciao nuovamente Blackcat, abbiamo altre immagini in copyviol da parte di questo utente, puoi eliminarle? Grazie. --Dimitrij Kášëv 11:55, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dimitrij, risulta sp di qualcuno su it.wiki? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 22:39, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Uploaded with UploadWizard

Just FYI: Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/08/Category:Uploaded with UploadWizard. Ankry (talk) 09:49, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Orfanizzazione

Te lo faccio pure, ma al suo posto che ci metto? --Hypergio (talk) 21:51, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mah, io con le figure c'ho sempre avuto poco a che fare. Comunque fatto. Ciao. --Hypergio (talk) 20:40, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Fatto pure il secondo. Ciao --Hypergio (talk) 07:04, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ma te guarda 'sti amministratori di Commons. Gli dai una mano si prendono tutto il braccio. Ma il 17 febbraio torni, vero? Comunque fatta anche la terza bandierina. Ciao ;-) --Hypergio (talk) 20:29, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
C'è rimasto un link a una sandbox... cavoli dell'utente. Poi siccome non è vero che ho voglia di lavorare, come dice forbitamente il mio regale vicino di casa Guglielmo Alessandro io me sarei anche rotto li co.... A parte di scherzi, l'essere amministratore mi porta via tantissimo tempo alla creazione di voci e mi piacerebbe di tanto in tanto occuparmi delle voci sui miei Paesi Bassi. Se ogni tanto capita qualche figurina da sistemare si fa pure quello ma, onestamente, non faccio i salti di gioia. Quindi, se c'è bisogno conta su di me ma sii comprensivo se qualcosa mi rimane indietro. --НУРшЯGIO(beware of the moose) 18:03, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've known him on it.wiki ...

... and he's rather good.

:D

Thanks anyways eheh --Ruthven (msg) 18:42, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ByCat

I recently asked for and got a change to this template that put the things in it in alphabetical order. That was to make it easier for people to find things in the template. Your new changes were not in alphabetical order, so would you please change them so that they are, as follows?

  • In each list within the template, the value that the list resolves to is the first item in the list, followed by the other items in alphabetical order.
  • The lists themselves appear in alphabetical order by the value that they resolve to.

Thanks. Having the things in order that way is a big help when looking to see what's there. -- Auntof6 (talk) 17:09, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Auntof6, you mean this way? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:16, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, as an example. To be consistent, I would actually put "colour" in alphabetical order, too, because it resolves to the other spelling. But even just having the others in order is helpful - thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 17:22, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Done, Auntof6. To make it even more consistent, it should be adopted "colour" instead of "color" which is used anywere in the world apart from the U.S. :-) -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I meant the list being consistent with the other lists in the template. As for which spelling the color list should resolve to, that's a different discussion. I know that Wikipedia says to leave things in the variety of English originally used unless there are ties to a particular variety, but I don't know if Commons has anything to say on the subject. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:37, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway is the lesser problem, Auntof6. I added on {{ByCat}} also "By device" criterium, related to cameras, scanners, printers, and so on. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 22:08, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Categories by name

JuTa, Auntof6, could you please explain me this? I am not understanding a single thing. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 12:19, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Category_talk:People_by_name#This is flat list. And please undo your revert yourself. Thx. --JuTa 15:31, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
JuTa, I read, I reverted my self but nonetheless I am still confused. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:24, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps this could help. If there are cubcats, somebody could freqently try to resort the entries to those subcats. This should'nt happen. --JuTa 19:30, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That category is a metacat, but only by occupation, not by name. That's why I removed the "name" parameter from the metacat template. As for the topic cat parameter, I don't like using that parameter, but I don't think it's wrong: I think all it does is assign the category and give it a sort key of a space followed by whatever is specified for the first metacat parameter.
The reason this isn't a metacat by name is that the subcats are not groups of people/things with the same name. (An example of a "by name" category that is a metacat is Category:Hotels by name. That is a metacat because each subcat is for any and all hotels that have the indicated name.) There are other cases where a "by foo" category is not a metacat: those include anything where an individual "foo" would apply to only one individual person/thing. That includes categories by various kinds of registration number (such as ships or aircraft), by model number (such as Category:IPhone by model), and other kinds of IDs (such as Category:Ships by IMO number). Earlier this year I looked for cats like that that were incorrectly set up as metacats, and fixed many of them.
The "by name" cats are especially problematic, because "by name" is being used two different ways. It's being used to indicate the grouping criterion for some metacats (as with the hotels category). It's also being used the way it would be used in everyday conversation: to say that you're going to refer to a person using their name instead of some other way (for example, you're going to say "Elizabeth II" instead of "Her Majesty"). A while back, I proposed having different naming conventions for these two uses, but no one responded.
I hope all that helps. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:33, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
[conflict] Ok JuTa, it's clear to me that People by name is flat and mustn't have child cats. Should the other by name by occupation categories be hidden, too? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 19:35, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm , I dont have a clear opinion in this case. They could be hidden but its not a must. But if you hide please consequently through all of them. regards. --JuTa 19:44, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If it's a metacat (in this case, it's a metacat by occupation), it shouldn't be hidden. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:05, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao

Sulla mia pagina utente di it.wiki sono stato invitato a dare maggiori informazioni su una foto che avevo caricato su it.wiki e qualcun altro ha caricato anche su commons, immagine inerente ad Heidegger, è una foto del 1933. Non sono in grado al momento di darle. Puoi provvedere alla sua cancellazione? Si tratta di questa: File:Heidegger Leipzig 1933.jpg. Per it.wiki ho già informato Gianfranco. Grazie. --Xinstalker (talk) 16:04, 12 December 2016 (UTC) P.S. lo chiedo a te perché sei l'unico admin di commons che conosca.[reply]

Xin, di che anno è la Martin Heidegger Gesamtausgabe? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:25, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ma la Martin Heidegger Gesamtausgabe non c'entra nulla... intendo con la foto... --Xinstalker (talk) 16:28, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Volevo sapere se la foto sta in quel libro, Xin. -- 16:33, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
no, quei libri non hanno foto. In nota della voce di WikIT veniva indicato solo il discorso tenuto da Heidegger in quella occasione che per l'appunto è stato pubblicato nella HGA. Nel dubbio, preferisco che venga cancellata anche se non penso che lo NSDAP, o le sue pubblicazioni, possa oggi vantare molti diritti di autore... nel dubbio comunque meglio cancellare così evitiamo discussioni, anche se la foto è diffusa su internet per ognidove... ma noi siamo wikipedia e io ho fatto male allora a non appuntarmi le cose che dovevo. Per favore cancellala... grazie! --Xinstalker (talk) 16:40, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Se poi in futuro recupero le info doverose, la ricarico... ciao e grazie. --Xinstalker (talk) 16:43, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Categories by aspect ratio

Hi, Blackcat. Just so you know, those categories by aspect ratio should use {{MetaCat}} instead of {{CatCat}}. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Auntof6, ok. ByCat criterium? Measure? Number? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 22:21, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The criterion is "aspect ratio". It probably doesn't map to anything currently in the {{ByCat}} template. Not everything does. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:20, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Blackcat!

Happy New Year!

Blackcat, a new year is like a blank book, the pen is in your hands. It is your chance to write a beautiful story for yourself! Happy New Year 2017. Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 18:11, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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