User talk:Auntof6/Archives/2022

Photographs of queen Victoria

excuse me Mr. Auntof6, would you be kind enough to give me a valid justification as to why you have completely emptied the category dedicated to the photographs of Queen Victoria? ' why did he do such a thing, what good is there ??? Excuse me, I did not take your contribution at all well, I ask you to give me a reason, and which can be valid from justifying a senseless (in my personal opinion) emptying of a photographic category??--Miss Mattërn (talk) 15:46, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Miss Mattërn: Do you mean Category:Photographs of Victoria of the United Kingdom? That category is only for other categories, not for files. That is explained in the hatnote on the page. Most categories with names like that ("Photographs of <foo>") are only for categories. -- Auntof6 (talk) 17:30, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

then I invite you to create a category that can host all those photos, because scattered randomly throughout the category is not elegant at all, on the contrary I think it creates only a great unnecessary confusion, the road is only one: merge the photo files into a section dedicated to them. but I repeat that the photo files cannot be all scattered so confused in the category, this is an unacceptable discourse just thinking about it.--Miss Mattërn (talk) 02:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@Miss Mattërn: The appropriate category for general photos of Queen Victoria is Category:Victoria of the United Kingdom. If you want, you could move files into categories for the years in which the photos were taken or something like that. There is no problem having them in the main category for her; creating a category just for photos that are not in another subcategory is not necessary. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

but why shouldn't it be necessary? many other historical figures between the 19th and 20th centuries have a suitable category for their photographs, I honestly do not feel at all in agreement with his idea, because seeing all the photos mixed with other files (portraits, stamps, etc.) only creates confusion , and that's not the solution for those photographs, leaving them in the free category as she left them now is not the solution. and it is not at all a solution to distribute the photographs by year because you should also tribulate in the search, while instead having them grouped into a single category makes life very simple in the search for a photograph, but look I must be honest in telling you that your decision in the comparing those files just creates great anarchy and that's it. leaving those files in the category center is just what you need to avoid--Miss Mattërn (talk) 10:53, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@Miss Mattërn: I think I see your concern, but Category:Photographs of Victoria of the United Kingdom should contain only categories, not files. I will think about how else this could be managed, but the answer is not to put files directly into the photographs category. -- Auntof6 (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Category:Paintings in the Gallery of Palazzo Rosso (Genova)

Category:Paintings in the Gallery of Palazzo Rosso (Genova) has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

  — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 18:42, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Question

Hello, I had a question regarding a portrait that you added info too. I was wondering if this is Henry IV, Duke of Saxony aka Henry the Pious? Robert102506 (talk) 16:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

@Robert102506: It seems like it could be the person you're thinking of. See Category:Henry IV, Duke of Saxony and en:Henry IV, Duke of Saxony, which are about the person in this painting. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:27, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh ok it looks like it is him. Thank you so much! Have a good day! Robert102506 (talk) 20:49, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

May I know

May I know what are you doing? Are you removing over-categorised items? :) Haoreima (talk) 07:30, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Yes, that is what I am doing. Many of the pages I'm removing categories from have 4 or 5 categories that are all in the same "branch" of the category tree. They should be only in the lowest-level category. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:31, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

For You, A Barnstar ! 😃

		The Kanglei Barnstar
		For your outstanding contributions of proper categorisation of files & categories for the Meitei culture of Manipur and her 7 sister states, you deserve THE KANGLEI BARNSTAR! Keep it up! :) --Haoreima (talk) 07:40, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Category:Rostyslav Talckij

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Your deletion

Hi. Please note that your deletion here is incorrect. Wales is both a country in Europe and a country within the UK. Please read my User page (titled: Parent categories (Wales in Europe) as well as a sister category (UK) before replying. Many thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:09, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Three new cats

FYI, I opened three new categories:

• Works by continent of origin
• Works by country of origin
• Works by year by country of origin

I didn't go into any significant tree changes, just I want to keep them separate from categories like Works by year by country and Works by continent where there has been mixing of "in" and "from". --Orijentolog (talk) 22:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

@Orijentolog: OK. I'm not sure why you're notifying me especially, but it seems like a good idea. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:17, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I notified you because I saw you opened Works from Germany by year and I was thinking it's all your idea, but now I checked and found out that there are even older such categories.

By the way, I saw that you corrected many of "by-by" categories which I opened, more particularly extra criterion in MetaCat template (as I understood only last one should be used, e.g. criterion "century" if it ends with "...by country by century", but I was incorrectly putting both "country" and "century"). Sorry for such stupidity and thanks for corrections, however, I believe there are still tens of categories with extra criterion. --Orijentolog (talk) 01:34, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Category:Japanese-language books by title

hi! i think "by title" fits the definition of a meta cat Commons:List of meta category criteria? RZuo (talk) 06:55, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

@RZuo: That depends. Not every use of the things listed on that page makes a metacat. Metacats contain subcats that group items by a sort criterion. The sort criterion, such as "by title" or whatever, is specified in the name of the metacat. Each subcat is for any and all items that fit the name of the subcat. For example, the metacat Category:Rivers by country has a subcat called Category:Rivers of France. In that case, the subcat is for any and all rivers of France.

I don't know of any by-title categories that are metacats, so I'll use by-name as an example to explain this. Some criteria, such as name, can be used for metacats and for categories that are not metacats. It depends on what's in the subcats. They are metacats if each subcat groups multiple things that fit the description. For example, Category:Hotels by name is a metacat because each subcat (for example, Category:Hotels named Hermitage) is for multiple hotels that share a name, not for an individual hotel. On the other hand, Category:Board games by name is not a metacat because each of its subcats is for one individual board game.

As for "by title", a category with that in the name could be a metacat if the subcats were for multiple things. For example, if the subcats in Category:Books by title were something like Category:Books named The President, then the by-title category would be a metacat. However, since the subcats in Category:Books by title are each for an individual book, it is not a metacat. As I said, I don't know of any by-title categories that are metacats, but I guess it's possible.

So in this case, Category:Japanese-language books by title is not a metacat.

I hope that makes sense. If you'd like more explanation, feel free to let me know. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:20, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

thx! i think i get what you mean. RZuo (talk) 07:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Help

Dear Auntof6 I need your help with something. 152.86.164.35 23:57, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Fishers Island

Please don't make that change again without discussing it first Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:39, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Same re; Great Gull Island. Don't do that shit. Beyond My Ken (talk)

Grab a dictionary and check out the difference between a "structure" and a "building". Beyond My Ken (talk) 10:48, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: Kindly use civil language on my talk page. An apology would not go amiss.

As for the changes I made, there was this discussion that resulted in a consensus that there should not be categories named "buildings and structures". Also that buildings are a type of structure, so they can go under structures or be included in structures. Therefore, with the categories that contained only images of buildings, I renamed to buildings; with categories that contained other kinds of structures, I renamed to structures even if there were also buildings.

Is there a reason these particular categories should be different? -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

An unadvertised VP discussion in which 4 editors (including yourself) took part is not relevant, it establishes nothing except that 4 editors agreed on something. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:47, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: A discussion at the Village pump cannot be considered unadvertised. In any case, there is also the earlier discussion at Commons_talk:CommonsProject_Architecture#Category:Buildings_and_structures. Also, you haven't answered my question as to whether the categories where you reverted my changes should be handled differently. -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:17, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

That discussion also had 4 participants, and is just as irrelevant. Concerning your question, I will not be responding, as what you are putting forward as a standard is no such thing. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: What would you consider relevant? -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:39, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

A well-attended conversation in which a significant cross-section of the community discusses the subject and decides on a standard. Nothing you've cited has been that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If you want that, then start the discussion, but you may well be disappointed. Except in particularly contentious matters, it's very rare for a category naming discussion on Commons (either on the Village Pump or CfD) to have more than a handful of participants. Commons is a smaller community than enwiki, and well-attended discussions with formal closes don't always exist. I don't see any compelling reason here to differ from a naming structure that is currently used across thousands of categories, and has been supported by the discussions that have been had. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:10, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Please be careful when changing categories by Cat-a-log

Dear Auntof6, I saw that you changed at least about one hundred files with photos made by Fons Heijnsbroek from Category:Photographs of Amsterdam to Category:Amsterdam with Cat-a-lot. I understand that you want to get rid of the Category:Photographs of Amsterdam for these files, I agree. But these files all have already other subcategories of Amsterdam. So Category:Amsterdam is redundant for these files, this is what we call overcategorisation. Would you please solve this problem? JopkeB (talk) 13:51, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

@JopkeB: Done. I went through everything in Category:Amsterdam, so I might have taken care of some things other than those moves I did. -- Auntof6 (talk) 16:19, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care! --JopkeB (talk) 03:33, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Category:1‎

Hi, Usually files added there should be deleted. Thanks, Yann (talk) 21:43, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

@Yann: Do you mean the files themselves should be deleted, or the category should be deleted from the file? -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:51, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

The files themselves. Yann (talk) 21:52, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

As I said above, it is useless and in fact conterproductive to remove this category. Thanks, Yann (talk) 11:45, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Perrier water bottles

Good day. I just asked at User_talk:Túrelio#Perrier_water_bottles regarding how such bottles of Perrier Water can be properly categorized. Perhaps you have some insight on this discussion as well. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 14:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Вікі любить пам'ятки 2022 в Україні / Wiki Loves Monuments 2022 in Ukraine

Привіт!

Цього року українська частина міжнародного фотоконкурсу «Вікі любить пам'ятки» пройде з 1 по 31 жовтня — через російське вторгнення в Україну також довелося змінити умови: тільки світлини зроблені до 23 лютого 2022 року включно будуть прийматися в основній частині конкурсу.

В Україні цей конкурс пройде вже водинадцяте. На конкурс можна подавати власні фото пам'яток історико-культурної спадщини України — і змагатися за призи. Більше можна прочитати за посиланням.

Радимо ознайомитися із детальними правилами, а також із відповідями на часті питання. Як і того року — у номінації «За найбільшу кількість сфотографованих пам’яток» можна отримати 21 бал за фотографії об'єктів, якщо світлин цієї пам'ятки раніше не було завантажено.

Нагадаємо, що всі фотографії автоматично беруть участь у номінації «За найбільшу кількість сфотографованих пам’яток»; однак для того, щоб фото позмагалося у номінації «Найкраще фото», потрібно підтвердити це при завантаженні.

Цього року знову пройде спецномінація «Відео» — для участі робіт у цій спецномінації не потрібно обирати нічого у Завантажувачі — роботи зараховуватимуться автоматично з відповідних списків.

Усі номінації та спецномінації конкурсу описані тут.

Приєднуйтеся!

Зі списками пам'яток можна ознайомитися тут. Більше інформації про конкурс дивіться за посиланням. Щоб отримувати інформацію про новинки у конкурсі — підпишіться на наші блог та сторінку у фейсбук.

Важливо! Цього року ми проводимо конкурс вже за чинним адміністративно-територіальним устроєм.

Якщо у Вас є запитання, можете звертатися wlmwikimedia.org.ua чи у фейсбук – З повагою, Оргкомітет «Вікі любить пам'ятки». 20:29, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Ви отримали це повідомлення, оскільки Ви брали участь в одному із фотоконкурсів «Вікімедіа Україна» чи допомагали (наприклад, редагували файли з цих конкурсів).

If you do not speak Ukrainian, but you are interested in a contest, you can check out our page in English here.

Category:Visitor attractions of l'Albufera (1927)

HOLA & hi!

I'm not a native English speaker.

The category refers to the "mojones" used to mark the "lindes" of l'Albufera. There are three sets of them and this one is for those of 1927.

I used "landmarks" as "artifacts to mark the limits of the land". I guess (I'm sure right now) that there has to be a better way to describe them.

All the "mojones" from 1927 are made of metal, so "stones" (and its derivatives) do not fit properly. In fact, even the Spanish word "mojones" is misleading in this case: it refers to stone markers such as milestones on roads.

But they are not visitors attractions -but for a few visitors such as me, that go expressly to photogreph them- and, in addition, l'Albufera has plenty of visitors attractions in the common sense.

So, please, could you change the category name again to something more accurate?

Thank you! B25es (talk) 06:40, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

@B25es: Thank you for the explanation. I agree that "visitor attractions" is not the correct term for this. I can't think of a better one, though, so I will move it back to "landmarks" at least for now. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:43, 21 November 2022 (UTC)