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Yours sincerely, JuTa 20:31, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I have already sent the permissiosn, please chcek Ticket#2017040810010828 Permisson sent to Zezwolenia - Polskie projekty Wikimedia <permissions-pl@wikimedia.org>. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atomksk (talk • contribs) 20:14, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Secondarywaltz (talk) 15:12, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1) The photo is taken from: Narodowe Archiwum Cyfrowe (National Digital Archives) 2) NAC has Polish site in Wikipedia Narodowe Archiwum Cyfrowe and English: Narodowe_Archiwum_Cyfrowe. 3) The rights has Polish Treasury, who gives the permnission for using their files. Before uploading the file I asked them for permission. 4) The Providing Access is here: http://www.nac.gov.pl/en/audiovisual-archive/archive-resources-general-characteristics/ --Atomksk (dyskusja) 23:20, 1 May 2017 (UTC) --Atomksk (talk) 23:22, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Discasto talk 20:39, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zgoda została przesłana przez autora zdjęcia, Norberta Gajlewicza: Re: FW: [Ticket#2017032310026151] Wikipedia - pytanie o zgodę na udostepnienie zdjęcia Mail z dnia 25 marca 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atomksk (talk • contribs) 21:07, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Discasto: Hi, why the file has been removed? The author, Norbert Gajlewicz, sent written permission. I mentioned it.
@Ankry: Ankry, can you help? The mail is from 25th March. Please. --Atomksk (talk) 21:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Yours sincerely, Discasto talk 20:39, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zgoda została przesłana przez autora, Juliusza Multarzyńskiego. Mail z dnia 11 kwietnia. --Atomksk (talk) 21:10, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Discasto talk 20:40, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Warning As I explained on my talk page, do not re-upload media that has been deleted. Doing so will get your account blocked and that won't help anyone. Thx! --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 06:57, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I will not re-upload the files, I have asked the files in Poland, engaged in previous correspondence. I was sure it had been explained and confirmed, after sending the written permission by author few times... --Atomksk (talk) 13:26, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@AntiCompositeBot Plik pochodzi ze strony Narodowego Archiwum Cyfrowego i podałem link do strony internetowej. Podałem tez informacje, że Narodowe Archiwum Cyfrowe na podstawie art. 3 ust. 1 Ustawy z dnia 25 lutego 2016 r. o ponownym wykorzystywaniu informacji sektora publicznego (t.j. Dz. U. z 2019 r. poz. 1446) udostępnia tylko te fotografie znajdujące się w zasobach NAC, które nie są objęte ochroną prawno-autorską lub co do których autorskie prawa majątkowe posiada Skarb Państwa. Z tego powodu nie jest konieczne udzielania licencji na korzystanie z udostępnionych fotografii, bowiem wynika ona z mocy samej wspomnianej wcześniej ustawy - zdjęcia, do których prawa należą do Skarbu Państwa są udostępniane na takiej samej zasadzie, jak gdyby znajdowały się w domenie publicznej. I tak jest w przypadku tego zdjęcia. Prawa do tego zespołu zostały przekazane przez spadkobierców na rzecz NAC, które w tym wypadku ustawowo i statutowo jest reprezentantem Skarbu Państwa. NAC w związku z tym nie może podpisać wskazanego przez Pana oświadczenia z licencją, bowiem licencja wynika z mocy samej ustawy o ponownym wykorzystywaniu informacji sektora publicznego (a nie z tylko dozwolonego użytku). Czy w takim razie należy inaczej oznaczyć licencję? Proszę o pomoc. Atomksk (talk) 16:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Patrick Rogel This file is shared through free licence between NAC (Nationaj Digital Archives), source is provided: https://www.nac.gov.pl/. All the conditions are given in file description. I changed the licence for: (CC BY-SA 4.0). I wait for OTRS confirmation. I think it might be too early to make the vote for file deletion, even I did wrong specification, I need a help, what I kindly ask for. --Atomksk (talk) 16:37, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The file won't be deleted if an OTRS permission is received and granted. Even so a deleted file can be undeleted at any moment. Yours, --Patrick Rogel (talk) 16:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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