User talk:Archie02

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Hallo Archie02, leider habe ich noch keine Information zu den Lebensdaten des Bildautors Erich Metzke, der dieses Bild von Dr. Horst Wolf als Othello 1952 photographiert hat. Die Recherche läuft noch im Einwohnermeldeamt und im Stadtarchiv Dessau-Roßlau, wo der Bildautor seinerzeit tätig war. Davon hängt ab, ob dieses Photo gemeinfrei sein könnte. Ob eine andere Möglichkeit besteht, dieses Bild in den Artikel aufzunehmen, bitte ich mir mitzuteilen. Anderenfalls muß es leider gelöscht werden. Chemnitz. 79.206.249.213 16:56, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

File:Port of lyttelton.jpg

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Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:15, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Okay. Noted. --Archie02 (talk) 19:30, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Surname sortkey

Hello! Concerning this issue, I apologize for rollbacking your edit, instead of undoing with a suitable explanation in the summary. You state that in these cases a comma needs to be used — yet I would argue that indeed in these cases a comma is usual and almost always harmless (unless the character "&" is an initial of the second name word and untailored collation is used), but in no way its absense is a mistake or causes any ambiguity. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 09:18, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

without a comma following the surname within DEFAULTSORT there is a Defaultsort-conflict between the string defined in a) DEFAULTSORT and b) the string of "Family name, Given name(s)" automatically derived from the Wikidata item (properties P734, and P735). This will lead to an entry in Maintenance Category c:Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts.

Adding a comma to the DEFAULTSORT-term is the correct way of solving the problem in this case (in several other cases, especially with Stage names being in use, adding argument {{Wikidata Infobox|defaultsort=no}} might be the other solution).

Thanks & Best regards, --Archie02 (talk) 16:56, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

• Wikidata has a very substandard grasp on human onomastics (indeed in most anything, even things this trivial, but I digress). It’s not Commons’ job to bend over hoops in order to avoid Wikidata-based blunders. But if you feel need to go around adding useless commas just because the best funded and yet least useful (not to mention non-wiki based) of all WMF’s projects is faulty, instead of fixing its errors in the source, then by all means, have fun with it, but please do not call it a correction when you do it, implying that what I did was somehow wrong. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 05:57, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Sortorder for Danish artists

Hi Archie02. You have begun to change the sortorder for Danish artists, or at least for Christine Løvmand. You write in your edit "No Danish special characters". These are not "special characters", they are characters in our (latin) alphabet. Could you point me to the guideline that says that the w:Danish and Norwegian alphabet is not a latin alphabet, and that our sortorder is not valid? Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 06:20, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Rsteen:

characters like ø (Danish, Swedish), ä, ö, ü, (German, Finnish), ł (Polish) in a Defaultsort-term often cause an entry in maintenance category Category:Pages_with_DEFAULTSORT_conflicts; this usually comes up as soon as the respective Q-item on Wikidata has been maintained with entries for "Given name" and "Family name", from where these entries automatically get derived as categories assigned to the person-specific category where {{Wikidata Infobox}} is in use.

While there is the option to define {{Wikidata Infobox|defaultsort=no}}, using this option excessively will lead function "auto-derive information from Wikidata" to ad absurdum, and thus should be used for cases that cannot be solved in other ways. More usual way to handle characters like ø, ä, ö, ü, ł in Defaultsort-term is to change these into respective "plain" characters o, a, o, u, l.

Best regards, --Archie02 (talk) 20:33, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi again. Thanks for the information. It generally says that these letters are difficult to handle - not that you can not use them. I can understand that letters with ligatures and accents are placed under the main letter, but "æ", "ø" and "å" are part the Nordic alphabets - and Commons sorts them correctly when they are used. So please show the rule that says that they can not be used. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 02:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

I only can point out what is common practice here on WM:Commons, and also on DE:WP where German Umlaute ä, ö, ü regularly are posing problems. In case you are unhappy with the defaultsort-terms I have revised, due to the Categories being listed in a.m. maintenance category, please feel free to reinstate the status quo ante for the Defaultsort-term, but then you also should check for arising Defaultsort-conflicts and take proper alternative corrective action, please. Best regards, --Archie02 (talk) 12:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Will try to reinstate. Thanks for being so civil about this problem. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 17:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and "default" categories question

Thanks for this edit. A somewhat newbie question; what is your process for removing certain categories that come from wikidata (like given name, surname, birth year, death year categories)? I've noticed sometimes that wikidata can be missing something like surname when ported over, so I'm just curious if your process (and others) is manual here (validate that infobox has all of the things before you remove them)). Just a bit unfamiliar... as I just make categories and walk away generally. Thank you, --Engineerchange (talk) 17:32, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi Engineerchange,

indeed, I first check the Wikidata item for properly maintained given name(s), and family name. If there is more than one given name entered, the order of entries in the Wikidata item is important for sorting orders in Commons categories; additional "series ordinal"-definitions in the Wikidata item are optional.

As for dates of birth, and of death it is important that there is only one value each available in the Wikidata item; if there is more than one - say - Date of Birth entered, validity of data should be checked: If only one source states one date, and several reliable other sources state a different date, the the isolated date should be revised to "deprecated rank".

All these checks are done to make sure that Commons can assign the correct categories automatically.

I hope this information is helpful ?

Best regards, --Archie02 (talk) 19:11, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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Sorting conflict resolved 2?

What does this mean? Lenita Airisto 17.-19.9.1964 D.jpg: diff ”Defaultsort-conflict solved” User talk:Archie02 Sorting conflict resolved? raid5 20:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello raid5,

apologies for the late replay.

numerous historical images of Lenita Airisto showed up in maintenance category c:Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts: Creator-page for U. A. Saarinen is bringing along "Saarinen, U. A." as default sort key, the (meanwhile removed) manually defined default sort key "Airisto, Lenita" was conflicting this, resulting in line:

Warning: Default sort key "Airisto, Lenita" overrides earlier default sort key "Saarinen, U. A.".

Best regards, Archie02 (talk) 18:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Maybe I should use only sortkeys in categories and avoid magic word DEFAULTSORT. raid5 21:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

There was error message ”Warning: Default sort key "Eronen, Ella" overrides earlier default sort key "Saarinen, U. A.".” Then I removed defaultsort. Thank you for an explanation. raid5 21:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)