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File:Kommuny Street, 70 (Chelyabinsk) 01.jpg

Hi/hello, if you are the original uploader and the file is still new/recent, you can better use Crit. 1. Then its your own request and the chance of a filemover declining your rename request is very small. Regards. - Richardkiwi (talk) (talk) 12:11, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

• Oh thanks! Didn't notice this item in the table. I'll know. Thanks for the hint and renaming. Yes, I photographed and downloaded the files myself. 攝影師 (talk) 12:16, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Railway buffers, in Austria and elsewhere

Hi,

I am highly confused by what you've just done to the "buffers" categories. Apparently, you created a category Category:Dead-end railway stop, which is (a) misnamed (category names should be plural) and (b) has no subcategory relationship to Category:Buffers, but does still link to the relevant Wikipedia article in the description. Why? What are the actual distinctions you are trying to make?

To the extent that "dead-end railway stops" and "station buffers" are two different types of buffers (which I am not sure that that was your intention): While there is obviously nothing wrong with categorizing buffers in Austria by buffer type in addition to subnational entity (state), edits like this and this and this are not good. The information what state of Austria we are in is still correct, relevant and not overcategorized. You've caused there to be several empty subcategories of Category:Buffers in Austria, which is definitely not right. Would you like to fix that yourself? Tokfo (talk) 06:49, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

• I didn't deal with wikidata errors when wikipedia articles are incorrectly linked to wikimedia categories. Station buffers are called so not because they are located at the stations, but because they are railway dead-end buffers (or rather, if completely: energy-absorbing stops), namely with shock-absorbing devices. I did not rename all categories. I'm sorting out a bunch of completely different types of devices. Namely, in the category of buffers they put railway devices that did not have to them: dead ends (they are not designed to be shock absorbing, they are designed for an emergency stop if the brakes fail or if the driver did not calculate the distance) and dead end prisms (the function is the same, only it is made by an embankment of rubble or soil , to soften the blow). Dead-end prisms can be reinforced with dead-end stops. All 3 devices (including those called "station buffers") are devices installed on dead ends, including dead-end passenger landing platforms. 攝影師 (talk) 06:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
• As for Austria, it was divided into many categories by regions with incorrect names, I didn’t scatter all of them into categories of small regions of the country every 3 types of devices, they combined them into one category with the name of the country for each device. If you wish, you can make a breakdown within the new category by region. I rule not only Austria, but by all means the above erroneous categories. 攝影師 (talk) 07:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
• It would be more correct to rename «Station buffers» to «Energy-absorbing stops». But I did not do this, they are not practically installed outside railway stations, and renaming will take a lot of time. 攝影師 (talk) 07:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

  I admit that I don't quite understand the idea behind Category:Dead-end railway stop:

  • If all Dead-end railway stops are also Station buffers then the former category should be a sub-category of the latter.
  • If not then
    • Dead-end railway stops should be a sub-category of Buffers;
    • media should not be moved but copied to the new category.

  -- Renardo la vulpo (talk) 15:23, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

  No, you misunderstood. Maybe I didn't name it correctly. Not all of these devices are located only at stations, and even more so not only at passenger stopping points of railway stations. That is, those that are at the stations are part of the general, and not vice versa. Subdivided according to their device, and not by location. The location subdivision is generally incorrect, the same ones can be installed at stations, marshalling yards of stations, and hauls. They can be stationary, for example, rigidly welded to the rails and portable, removable bolts attached, including temporarily. 攝影師 (talk) 18:10, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

  In any case, these are safety devices used in emergency situations. Those that you write about on the final dead-end passenger tracks of the station are designed to stop a passenger train moving at a slow speed, and preferably for a smooth stop, for which they are often equipped with collision damping devices, that is, hydraulic, pneumatic, spring [1][2][3]. Those that are installed on dead-end railway tracks of stations, or on dead-end railway tracks of hauls, are designed to stop rolling stock moving in emergency cases when there is no possibility of stopping by other ways, for example, dropping turnouts, Derails and others [4][5][6]. 攝影師 (talk) 18:44, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

  A railway station is not only a place for disembarking and embarking passengers and a building for their accommodation. And they are not only passenger. 攝影師 (talk) 18:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

  I understand that a "dead-end railway stop" shall mean the same as the German expression of Kopfbahnhof, that's a railway terminus where all tracks are ending. So if ever there should be a Commons category for this, it should a) basically include subcategories (of railway stations of this type, such as Category:Frankfurt (Main) Hauptbahnhof) instead of photos, and b) surely not be named "stops" (because logical inconsistence -- a stop or a railway halt is where trains only stop and go further, and not where they terminate -- that is a station) and not in the single form, so "dead-end stations" seem more appropriate. And it should have a WD infobox. In any event, 攝影師, please stop mass-categorizing for the time being and seek consensus first. Regards --A.Savin 15:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

  And what about the station? Have you even looked at the photos, what is shown there? There we are talking about protective devices at the ends of the Railway tracks [7]. Do you not understand what we are talking about at all? 攝影師 (talk) 12:16, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

  If you do not know English well, try reading the Russian-language article: [8], [9]. And even in the article in English it is called "Buffer stop", and not just "Buffer". Moreover, the article has not yet been finalized and all types have not been painted, if you also study the photo more carefully, not to mention the literature. 攝影師 (talk) 12:30, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

• Restore the whole lot and delete these newly-invented names. A change of such magnitude should always be discussed first.

If this happens again in the future, there should be blocks as vandalism. This sort of change is highly disruptive and tiresome to reverse. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:37, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

• Perhaps you are right, at first it was necessary to discuss, but I do not know where it should have been done. And I think it’s not worth doing the reverse renaming of everyone, without a preliminary discussion. Since placing them all of different types indiscriminately in one category, and even with the name "buffer", given that some are not such by nature, is also a mistake. 攝影師 (talk) 06:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

攝影師, did you misunderstand something, or did I? "Dead-end railway stop" means designated at the end of the railroad track which railway stops for passengers to get on and off the trains.--Kai3952 (talk) 02:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• Is it? What then is the name of the blocking type devices shown in the photo that limit on dead-end railway tracks, which are a mechanical barrier? The term "buffer" does not include those that are not equipped with softening shock-absorbing spring or pneumatic devices. In this case, the question is about hard devices. And also about those where mounds of crushed stone or sand are used as a softening device in front of such. How are these called? Or is the English language poor and there is no separate name for such devices? 攝影師 (talk) 06:15, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
• For example here:

1. equipped with shock absorbers and which can be called buffers: [10], [11], [12], [13].
2. not equipped with shock absorbers: [14], [15], [16], [17].
3. equipped with an embankment of sand, gravel, soil: [18], [19], [20], [21], [22]. 攝影師 (talk) 06:44, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

If you don't agree with my opinions, there's still no need to verbally attack me with biased comment. Please read COM:CIV.--Kai3952 (talk) 07:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Did I attack you? God forbid! I only reported the facts and errors on the wikimedia where images of different types of devices were piled up in one category, especially since "buffer" is not only a railway word. Based on this, I started to create additional categories at first, but when the participant was indignant, he agreed that these points should first be discussed by the wiki community and come to a consensus. This also applies to the reverse return of the category, since their fallacy is also obvious. 攝影師 (talk) 07:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Category:Dead-end prism

What should this term mean? There are no Google search results for this. Regards --A.Savin 12:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

• Translated from here: [23][24][25][26][27][28]... If you paid attention in some countries, these are not used due to the specifics and historical development of railway transport, first of all, apparently, weight. So, I don't know if English sources can be found. For example, how to stop a departed train weighing 6000 tons? What about 10,000 tons? 攝影師 (talk) 14:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Seems to have the same purpose as any other station buffer? Why then a separate category tree? --A.Savin 15:15, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
    • Structural feature. As a result, they are all combined into a common category, if you carefully follow. Well, since you brought it up for discussion, until I regroup further. Let's wait for the community to decide. 攝影師 (talk) 18:03, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
    • I also draw your attention to the fact that in the English-language Wikipedia the article is called «Buffer stop». And not «Buffers» or «Station buffers»‎, as it was originally on wikimedia. And also for the presence of categories «Rail vehicle buffers» and «Tram track buffers»‎. Some of the latter were mixed with trains, this category itself has not yet been touched. 攝影師 (talk) 18:22, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Category:Dead-end_prism

Dead-end prism has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

A.Savin 23:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Category:Dead-end_railway_stop

Category:Dead-end_railway_stop has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

A.Savin 23:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

You are clearly confusing dead-end station and a completely different concept dead-end buffers[29]. 攝影師 (talk) 12:44, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

"Buffer" is not a railway stop

"Buffer" is not a railway stop. See the wiki article: en:Buffer_stop.--Kai3952 (talk) 00:28, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• Have you been able to understand from this article what are their differences? 攝影師 (talk) 06:05, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
• See also discussion above. 攝影師 (talk) 07:37, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

If you go back and review the thread with an open mind you would realize that you were hostile to me unnecessarily.--Kai3952 (talk) 07:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

You are wrong. I have nothing personal to you, I just explained what did not correspond to the facts in such a categorization, nothing more. Perhaps you misunderstood something due to a google translator translation error.

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A.Savin 23:18, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

• Excuse me, what are you writing about now? About Novosibirsk's? 攝影師 (talk) 23:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
• Or about the files I uploaded? 攝影師 (talk) 23:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Well, of course you are not allowed to go against common practice and logic and remove "metro stations" from "train stations". There are enough complaints by other users on your talk page about your altitude, so just be careful with mass edits. Regards --A.Savin 23:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

• Do you think "metro stations" and "train stations" are the same thing? Above in the discussions, a completely different subject was discussed, and as you can see, the community has not yet come to a consensus on this issue. And you already blame me. 攝影師 (talk) 23:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
• In the case you indicated, there is a unifying category https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Rail_transport_in_Novosibirsk, why duplicate from there to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Train_stations_in_Novosibirsk, especially the play stations of the children's railway ? And the metro too? Then there you need to specify the tram stops. Maybe you equate the English "Rail" and "Railway"? But these are different words. 攝影師 (talk) 23:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

• Undoubtedly metro trains are trains too. --A.Savin 23:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

  • Undoubtedly, two tram cars connected - this is also a train. Are there other road trains, and their stations - also then in this category? There is also Premetro - a kind of tram. 攝影師 (talk) 00:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
  • And you still haven't explained why your listing of stations with the name "Novosibirsk" by 3 letters and one asterisk is correct, but my combination of them under the letter "N" was wrong? 攝影師 (talk) 00:06, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
  • And why did you decide that Rechnoy Vokzal is a station at all? This is a stopping point, if anything https://tr4.info/station/850524. So you manipulated the facts? 攝影師 (talk) 00:15, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Category:Stations of Novosibirsk Metro

You made such inappropriate edit. Every metro is a railway system, every metro station is a railway station. If you make such kind of edit once again, then you can be blocked. Taivo (talk) 08:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• Every subway is a subway station, not a train (railway) station. Moreover, each metro station in its structure and infrastructure is similar only to a railway stop (train halts) for boarding and disembarking passengers. And only the terminal service stations of the metro (where passengers are not always disembarked and boarded) are more or less close to the railway station. 攝影師 (talk) 04:13, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
• If you are specifically talking about Novosibirsk, then there a large junction railway station has a length of several kilometers and an area of ​​several hectares. This station (railway) has 2 stations (vokzals, passenger buildings): suburban and main for long-distance train passengers. The metro station is located under the station square, has a length of several tens of meters and is intended for a short stop of the metro train for disembarking and embarking passengers. Metro station exits are located near the suburban passenger building of the railway station. In the Novosibirsk, the metro is only intracity transport, like the tram. Do you hope tram stops (there are also trams linked by 2-3 cars (vagons), in fact a train) are also not classified as railway stations only on the grounds that they are also on rails? Railway train station ≠ Metro train station! 攝影師 (talk) 04:20, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism warning

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You have vandalized the content of Wikimedia Commons. Please stop. If you continue making inappropriate edits you may be blocked from editing Commons. You may test freely in the sandbox.

A.Savin 23:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

• Can you finally tell me what you are accusing me of now? In edits in the categories https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:REM-KL and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:KamAZ-63501_AT - in outwardly similar machines of the same manufacturer's country? What should I experiment with? 攝影師 (talk) 23:45, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
• Maybe in this way I revealed the Russian military secret, and you guarded it? 攝影師 (talk) 23:47, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Warning for repeated vandalism

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A.Savin 09:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

• Are you threatening me again without giving any explanation and any arguments? What is the reason for your doing this? What is vandalism? 攝影師 (talk) 09:57, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
• You pointed out multiple vandalism, please explain? I don't understand your threats, what are they caused by? 09:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC) 攝影師 (talk) 09:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

While I have a feeling that you are persecuting me for personal reasons. 攝影師 (talk) 10:00, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Moreover, not only did you not answer the questions I asked about your threats, but you also deleted these questions from your discussion page [30]. How shoud I understand this? 攝影師 (talk) 10:04, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Да, чего греха таить, не люблю дискутировать с росс. анонимусами, массово создающими безграмотные категории вопреки консенсусу и здравому смыслу. --A.Savin 10:16, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Are you not only threatening, but also insulting? Based on nationality? Therefore, you illiterately delete categories and without any explanation? 攝影師 (talk) 10:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Did you, according to common sense, remake the railway stopping point near the river boat station? Or did they decide by consensus that in Novosibirsk there is one more vokzal (passenger building) of the railway station located on the river, and therefore called "Rechnoy" (river)? 攝影師 (talk) 11:20, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Did I break the consensus? In connection with uploading file Tank containers with formalin, I had to correct the category Formalin and wikidata [31], and also create a category Formalin (musical group) and wikidata [32] transferring data from the first. It turns out that I broke the consensus, based on your point of view, and these categories are now erroneous, but before that they were correct? 攝影師 (talk) 06:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Monument Slavy

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A.Savin 15:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

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A.Savin 15:32, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

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A.Savin 15:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

I believe that you are right on this issue, in modern Russia only money has value, even in such a matter as the Great Patriotic War for them. And I'm afraid even in the war in Ukraine, contrary to the officially declared goals. 攝影師 (talk) 17:16, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

OU! All of the above. I didn’t know about this [33], I guess in this case you can delete. I will learn for the future. 攝影師 (talk) 16:07, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

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A.Savin 10:22, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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