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1 00:00:00,367 --> 00:00:01,797 Mr. Carney: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,600 Welcome to the White House Briefing Room. 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,570 It is very good to see you today. 4 00:00:05,567 --> 00:00:09,497 I have no announcements to make, so I will head straight to the 5 00:00:09,500 --> 00:00:11,670 Associated Press. 6 00:00:11,667 --> 00:00:14,337 The Press: Jay, on gun violence to start off -- 7 00:00:14,333 --> 00:00:18,263 do you expect the President to release these plans tomorrow? 8 00:00:18,266 --> 00:00:22,366 And absent any specifics that you can provide at this point, 9 00:00:22,367 --> 00:00:26,267 to what extent can the President address this problem through 10 00:00:26,266 --> 00:00:30,136 executive order, and how much of it needs to be addressed through 11 00:00:30,133 --> 00:00:32,903 congressional action? 12 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:35,100 Mr. Carney: Thank you for the question. 13 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:39,870 I can tell you that tomorrow the President and Vice President 14 00:00:39,867 --> 00:00:43,097 will hold an event here at the White House to unveil a package 15 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:46,900 of concrete proposals to reduce gun violence and prevent future 16 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:50,470 tragedies like the one in Newtown, Connecticut. 17 00:00:50,467 --> 00:00:53,597 They will be joined by children from around the country who 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,970 wrote the President letters in the wake of that tragedy 19 00:00:55,967 --> 00:00:59,237 expressing their concerns about gun violence and school safety, 20 00:00:59,233 --> 00:01:00,833 along with their parents. 21 00:01:00,834 --> 00:01:05,864 That event will be at approximately 11:45 a.m. 22 00:01:05,867 --> 00:01:10,497 I will not get ahead of the President in terms of what his 23 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:13,470 package of proposals will include. 24 00:01:13,467 --> 00:01:16,467 I will simply note that the President has made clear that he 25 00:01:16,467 --> 00:01:19,167 intends to take a comprehensive approach. 26 00:01:19,166 --> 00:01:23,696 He has also made clear that there are specific legislative 27 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:28,800 actions that he will continue to call on Congress to take, 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,230 including the assault weapons ban, 29 00:01:30,233 --> 00:01:35,233 including a measure to ban high-capacity magazine clips, 30 00:01:35,233 --> 00:01:42,103 including an effort to close the very big loopholes in the 31 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:45,070 background check system in our country. 32 00:01:45,066 --> 00:01:48,296 But I will, beyond that, leave it to the President to announce 33 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:50,970 what actions he proposes tomorrow. 34 00:01:50,967 --> 00:01:54,337 The Press: There's been some fears among gun owners that the President 35 00:01:54,333 --> 00:01:58,703 might unilaterally try to restrict their right to bear 36 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:02,170 arms or access to weapons. 37 00:02:02,166 --> 00:02:06,796 Does the President believe that his executive powers give him 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,670 the authority to restrict someone's right to access 39 00:02:11,667 --> 00:02:14,137 certain weapons or ammunition? 40 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:15,203 Mr. Carney: Well, let's be clear. 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,930 The President, as he has said often and said yesterday, 42 00:02:17,934 --> 00:02:20,704 believes that the Second Amendment guarantees an 43 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:23,270 individual right to bear arms. 44 00:02:23,266 --> 00:02:26,966 He believes and knows that most all gun owners are highly 45 00:02:26,967 --> 00:02:30,267 responsible; they buy their guns legally and they use 46 00:02:30,266 --> 00:02:31,496 them safely. 47 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:36,030 He also has seen and believes that most gun owners support the 48 00:02:36,033 --> 00:02:39,803 idea of common-sense measures to prevent people who shouldn't 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,400 have guns from getting them. 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,600 And that includes closing loopholes in our background 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,030 check system, for example. 52 00:02:47,033 --> 00:02:48,033 But when it comes to -- the President will take a 53 00:02:48,033 --> 00:02:52,933 comprehensive approach. 54 00:02:52,934 --> 00:02:56,704 But it is a simple fact that there are limits on what can be 55 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:58,130 done within existing law. 56 00:02:58,133 --> 00:03:05,163 And Congress has to act on the kinds of measures that we've 57 00:03:05,166 --> 00:03:09,836 already mentioned because the power to do that is reserved by 58 00:03:09,834 --> 00:03:11,004 Congress and to Congress. 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,930 So I'm not going to get ahead of the President. 60 00:03:14,934 --> 00:03:19,604 He will announce a series of proposals, 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:26,530 but certainly a significant part of what he hopes we together can 62 00:03:26,533 --> 00:03:30,603 achieve will have to be done working with Congress. 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,030 The Press: Separate topic, on Egypt: There are some comments, 64 00:03:34,033 --> 00:03:37,903 some anti-Semitic comments that have emerged from President 65 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:39,730 Morsi recently. 66 00:03:39,734 --> 00:03:44,134 He delivered a speech in 2010, in which he instructed Eyptians 67 00:03:44,133 --> 00:03:48,503 to "nurse our children and our grandchildren on hatred for Jews 68 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:49,330 "and Zionists." 69 00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:54,103 He gave an interview around the same time in which he described 70 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:58,400 Zionists in very insulting and derogatory terms. 71 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,900 Does the President think that President Morsi should retract 72 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:05,230 his comments, offer an apology? 73 00:04:05,233 --> 00:04:09,133 And to your knowledge, has Morsi offered any regrets to the White 74 00:04:09,133 --> 00:04:12,163 House over making these comments? 75 00:04:12,166 --> 00:04:16,466 Mr. Carney: We strongly condemn the remarks that then-Muslim Brotherhood 76 00:04:16,467 --> 00:04:18,997 leader Morsi made in 2010. 77 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,370 The language that we have seen is deeply offensive. 78 00:04:21,367 --> 00:04:24,697 We completely reject the statements, 79 00:04:24,700 --> 00:04:29,100 as we do any language that espouses religious hatred. 80 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:32,300 This discourse -- and this is a broader point -- 81 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:36,300 this kind of discourse has been acceptable in the region for far 82 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:39,800 too long and is counter to the goal of peace. 83 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,600 President Morsi should make clear that he respects people of 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,600 all faiths, and that this type of rhetoric is not acceptable or 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,500 productive in a democratic Egypt. 86 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:52,230 Since taking office, President Morsi has reaffirmed Egypt's 87 00:04:52,233 --> 00:04:56,063 commitment to its peace treaty with Israel in both word and 88 00:04:56,066 --> 00:04:59,666 deed, and has proven willing to work with us towards shared 89 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:02,567 objectives, including a cease-fire during the crisis in 90 00:05:02,567 --> 00:05:04,437 Gaza last year. 91 00:05:04,433 --> 00:05:07,663 These commitments are essential for our bilateral relations with 92 00:05:07,667 --> 00:05:10,567 Egypt, as well as for stability in the region. 93 00:05:10,567 --> 00:05:14,197 But we will always speak out against language that espouses 94 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,700 religious hatred or encourages the use of violence. 95 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:19,800 And we have raised our concerns over these remarks with the 96 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,000 government of Egypt. 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,070 The Press: Does the White House believe, though, 98 00:05:22,066 --> 00:05:26,096 that Israelis can trust Morsi to uphold his end of the bargain, 99 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:28,230 given these comments? 100 00:05:28,233 --> 00:05:30,463 Mr. Carney: Again, we strongly condemn these comments. 101 00:05:30,467 --> 00:05:33,967 And we believe that President Morsi should make clear that he 102 00:05:33,967 --> 00:05:37,737 respects people of all faiths and that this type of rhetoric 103 00:05:37,734 --> 00:05:40,604 is unacceptable in a democratic Egypt. 104 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,200 We work with President Morsi towards shared objectives 105 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,200 because he is the elected leader of Egypt. 106 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,030 He has demonstrated in word and deed his commitment to Egypt's 107 00:05:51,033 --> 00:05:53,533 peace treaty with Israel, and that's significant. 108 00:05:53,533 --> 00:05:58,103 And he obviously worked with us to resolve -- 109 00:05:58,100 --> 00:06:00,930 or to achieve a peace settlement -- 110 00:06:00,934 --> 00:06:06,234 a ceasefire rather -- in the Gaza conflict last year. 111 00:06:06,233 --> 00:06:07,303 So this is about action. 112 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,030 It's about deeds. 113 00:06:09,033 --> 00:06:19,163 And we believe that language like that is too tolerated in 114 00:06:19,166 --> 00:06:22,196 the region and it has been acceptable in the region 115 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,200 for too long. 116 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,930 And we strongly condemn it, because it's counter to peace. 117 00:06:25,934 --> 00:06:29,204 It is counter to the long-term interests of everyone in the 118 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:34,530 region who hopes for peace and greater prosperity. 119 00:06:34,533 --> 00:06:35,733 Yes, Reuters. 120 00:06:35,734 --> 00:06:39,904 The Press: Last week, the Vice President met with makers of first-person 121 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:43,330 shooter video games and with the entertainment industry. 122 00:06:43,333 --> 00:06:46,033 And I'm just wondering if the President is going to have a 123 00:06:46,033 --> 00:06:49,333 message tomorrow for people in the entertainment industry about 124 00:06:49,333 --> 00:06:54,103 their role in the gun violence problem or their -- 125 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:57,400 ways that they could help address it. 126 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,770 Mr. Carney: I would ask you to wait for the President's event tomorrow, 127 00:07:00,767 --> 00:07:06,667 where he will broadly address the steps forward that he 128 00:07:06,667 --> 00:07:10,197 believes we need to take as a nation to try to reduce the 129 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,000 scourge of gun violence in this country. 130 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,570 But I don't want to get ahead of the President. 131 00:07:14,567 --> 00:07:17,737 It's certainly correct that the Vice President had that meeting. 132 00:07:17,734 --> 00:07:21,404 The Press: Aside from legislative -- things that could be addressed through 133 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,200 legislation, is there a sense, a building sense, 134 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,930 a growing sense of how quickly the administration will be able 135 00:07:26,934 --> 00:07:30,464 to move on some of the other pieces of the proposal that can 136 00:07:30,467 --> 00:07:32,397 be done without legislation? 137 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,800 And how quickly -- how important is it to move quickly, 138 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:42,630 to sort of not let what happened fade away? 139 00:07:42,633 --> 00:07:48,003 Mr. Carney: The President certainly hopes that out of the tragedy of 140 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:59,430 Newtown we can achieve progress towards reducing gun violence in 141 00:07:59,433 --> 00:08:01,663 this country. 142 00:08:01,667 --> 00:08:09,097 He believes that we can no longer stand by without taking 143 00:08:09,100 --> 00:08:11,430 action, even, as he did yesterday, 144 00:08:11,433 --> 00:08:14,633 as he acknowledges that no single thing that we can do will 145 00:08:14,633 --> 00:08:17,203 eliminate this problem. 146 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:23,770 And he acknowledged yesterday that achieving some of the goals 147 00:08:23,767 --> 00:08:26,997 that he has already set might be difficult. 148 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,870 Because they're difficult does not mean they should not 149 00:08:28,867 --> 00:08:32,537 be pursued. 150 00:08:32,533 --> 00:08:36,633 As for timetables, when it comes to congressional action, 151 00:08:36,633 --> 00:08:38,033 that obviously depends on Congress. 152 00:08:38,033 --> 00:08:40,203 The President has called for congressional action. 153 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,930 In terms of other measures that he might propose, 154 00:08:42,934 --> 00:08:47,034 I would leave it, again, to the President to describe those in 155 00:08:47,033 --> 00:08:53,803 greater detail tomorrow and perhaps address the question of 156 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,000 timetable and speed tomorrow. 157 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,230 The Press: What commitment has he gotten from leaders in Congress, 158 00:08:58,233 --> 00:09:03,503 particularly from Senator Reid, to work on some of these things? 159 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:07,970 Mr. Carney: I don't have any conversations of that nature to divulge today. 160 00:09:07,967 --> 00:09:10,097 He certainly believes that congressional action 161 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:11,300 is necessary. 162 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:16,530 There is, I think, a significant amount of interest in moving on 163 00:09:16,533 --> 00:09:22,763 these issues, and he will work with members of Congress to try 164 00:09:22,767 --> 00:09:26,337 to advance these important initiatives. 165 00:09:26,333 --> 00:09:28,733 In terms of timetables, again, that's a congressional 166 00:09:28,734 --> 00:09:30,734 prerogative, but he will certainly be urging Congress to 167 00:09:30,734 --> 00:09:32,334 act quickly. 168 00:09:32,333 --> 00:09:33,463 Jessica. 169 00:09:33,467 --> 00:09:35,067 The Press: Following up on that -- thanks, Jay -- 170 00:09:35,066 --> 00:09:38,166 Senator Reid has said he doubts whether an assault weapons ban 171 00:09:38,166 --> 00:09:39,396 can pass the House. 172 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,070 And the Senate will only move on something that can 173 00:09:43,066 --> 00:09:44,496 pass the House. 174 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:47,930 So how frustrating is this for the President? 175 00:09:47,934 --> 00:09:52,604 Mr. Carney: I think we will put forward a series of proposals. 176 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,130 The President has made clear that he supports and has long 177 00:09:55,133 --> 00:09:57,863 supported a renewal of the assault weapons ban. 178 00:09:57,867 --> 00:10:02,667 We will look to Congress to put together a legislative strategy. 179 00:10:02,667 --> 00:10:03,997 We'll work with them. 180 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,970 And we will push for things that are hard because they're the 181 00:10:06,967 --> 00:10:09,837 right things to do. 182 00:10:09,834 --> 00:10:11,664 We're not going to prejudge -- 183 00:10:11,667 --> 00:10:12,997 The Press: But do you think the assault weapons ban is dead before it's 184 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:13,900 started or -- 185 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:14,930 Mr. Carney: I don't believe that. 186 00:10:14,934 --> 00:10:19,504 And I think that that doesn't mean it's a sure thing, either. 187 00:10:19,500 --> 00:10:21,300 If these things were easy, they would have been 188 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:22,300 achieved already. 189 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:26,630 If renewal of the assault weapons ban were easily 190 00:10:26,633 --> 00:10:29,433 accomplished, it would not need renewing because it would have 191 00:10:29,433 --> 00:10:31,763 happened already. 192 00:10:31,767 --> 00:10:34,597 The fact of the matter is the President is committed to 193 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,430 pushing these proposals. 194 00:10:36,433 --> 00:10:40,203 He is not naĂŻve about the challenges that exist, 195 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,730 but he believes that, as he said yesterday, 196 00:10:44,734 --> 00:10:48,604 if even one child's life can be saved by the actions we take 197 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,470 here in Washington, we must take those actions. 198 00:10:51,467 --> 00:10:55,637 The Press: I know you all chafe at this, but the President is not always 199 00:10:55,633 --> 00:11:00,963 very fond of working phones and going up there and -- 200 00:11:00,967 --> 00:11:02,137 Mr. Carney: Going up there? 201 00:11:02,133 --> 00:11:05,563 Because there is such a long history of Presidents 202 00:11:05,567 --> 00:11:06,697 going up there? 203 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:08,370 (laughter) 204 00:11:08,367 --> 00:11:09,367 The Press: Well, they do. 205 00:11:09,367 --> 00:11:10,397 And they also have people over here. 206 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,000 Mr. Carney: I think that's in a television program. 207 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,170 But go ahead. 208 00:11:13,166 --> 00:11:14,696 (laughter) 209 00:11:14,700 --> 00:11:16,270 The Press: Over our heads, Jay. 210 00:11:16,266 --> 00:11:18,666 Over our heads. 211 00:11:18,667 --> 00:11:21,667 Mr. Carney: West Wing -- you know. 212 00:11:21,667 --> 00:11:22,667 Anyway, go ahead. 213 00:11:22,667 --> 00:11:26,367 The Press: I'm not going to indulge your West Wing fantasies. 214 00:11:26,367 --> 00:11:29,267 But he could also have them over here, 215 00:11:29,266 --> 00:11:31,536 and there are a number of things he can do. 216 00:11:31,533 --> 00:11:33,103 I know the history. 217 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:38,130 My question is how much is he willing to do that to win what 218 00:11:38,133 --> 00:11:43,103 he wants on the gun -- on the assault weapons ban and on gun 219 00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:44,100 safety in general? 220 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:50,000 I mean, is this the issue that he'll really break the mold? 221 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Mr. Carney: Well, I would start by suggesting that premise is a 222 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 little off. 223 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,670 But I will simply say that the President is committed to this. 224 00:11:58,667 --> 00:12:00,767 He believes it's a high priority, 225 00:12:00,767 --> 00:12:02,697 not just for him but for the country. 226 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:06,130 And he will push a series of proposals, 227 00:12:06,133 --> 00:12:08,163 and I think you will see that clearly when you hear from 228 00:12:08,166 --> 00:12:09,566 him tomorrow. 229 00:12:09,567 --> 00:12:12,837 That includes working with Congress to try to get some of 230 00:12:12,834 --> 00:12:14,904 these legislative actions done on behalf of the 231 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:15,870 American people. 232 00:12:15,867 --> 00:12:21,097 So I don't think you should doubt the President's commitment 233 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:23,330 to this, and he will work to achieve what can be 234 00:12:23,333 --> 00:12:24,433 achieved here. 235 00:12:24,433 --> 00:12:25,433 The Press: Okay. 236 00:12:25,433 --> 00:12:27,663 So just finally on this, does he have any commitment from 237 00:12:27,667 --> 00:12:32,967 Democratic leadership, like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, 238 00:12:32,967 --> 00:12:36,837 but especially Harry Reid, that they will push the assault 239 00:12:36,834 --> 00:12:37,834 weapons ban? 240 00:12:37,834 --> 00:12:40,104 Mr. Carney: Again, I think this was addressed earlier -- 241 00:12:40,100 --> 00:12:45,100 the legislative strategy will be something that's worked out with 242 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:46,700 legislative leaders. 243 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:48,670 The fact is the President is committed to the renewal of the 244 00:12:48,667 --> 00:12:51,497 assault weapons ban; a number of senators are committed to it. 245 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:58,300 I think there are a variety of things that we need to act on 246 00:12:58,300 --> 00:13:01,370 legislatively, and the President has already put forward 247 00:13:01,367 --> 00:13:02,367 some of those. 248 00:13:02,367 --> 00:13:04,837 In terms of how that plays out, I think we have to wait and see. 249 00:13:04,834 --> 00:13:07,634 But he is committed to acting and you'll -- 250 00:13:07,633 --> 00:13:11,933 I mean, I think you've seen something that reflects that, 251 00:13:11,934 --> 00:13:15,664 which is the Vice President, at the President's request, 252 00:13:15,667 --> 00:13:18,767 took on this task of bringing people together, 253 00:13:18,767 --> 00:13:21,637 formulating proposals and recommendations over the 254 00:13:21,633 --> 00:13:26,503 holidays and in the midst of a fiscal cliff fight and now other 255 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:29,430 fiscal challenges and debates that we're having with Congress, 256 00:13:29,433 --> 00:13:32,463 and did an extraordinary amount of work in order to present to 257 00:13:32,467 --> 00:13:35,897 the President a series of recommendations that he could 258 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:39,130 choose from and put forward, which he will do tomorrow. 259 00:13:39,133 --> 00:13:41,563 Major. 260 00:13:41,567 --> 00:13:44,637 The Press: Does the President believe he can achieve his goals of 261 00:13:44,633 --> 00:13:50,363 reducing gun violence without an assault weapons ban? 262 00:13:50,367 --> 00:13:55,737 Mr. Carney: That's hard to analyze what -- or quantify what that 263 00:13:55,734 --> 00:13:56,734 means exactly. 264 00:13:56,734 --> 00:13:59,004 The President will put forward a series of proposals that is not 265 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,970 limited to one legislative action. 266 00:14:01,967 --> 00:14:05,367 And I don't think he believes -- I know he doesn't believe that 267 00:14:05,367 --> 00:14:09,997 even if everything that he put forward were acted on, 268 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,730 made law when it comes to legislative action, or acted on 269 00:14:12,734 --> 00:14:16,434 in other ways that we would eliminate gun violence 270 00:14:16,433 --> 00:14:17,433 in America. 271 00:14:17,433 --> 00:14:19,433 He understands that that's the case. 272 00:14:19,433 --> 00:14:20,403 The Press: You know why I ask. 273 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,870 Mr. Carney: Well, I think our goal, obviously, should be -- 274 00:14:22,867 --> 00:14:26,097 as a country should be never to accept even one child's death as 275 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:27,930 a result of gun violence. 276 00:14:27,934 --> 00:14:32,804 So he believes that the things that we can do as a nation, 277 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,300 together, in a bipartisan way when it comes to legislation, 278 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:40,300 together outside of Washington, that, yes, 279 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:43,870 we can reduce gun violence. 280 00:14:43,867 --> 00:14:45,167 But it's something we have to do together. 281 00:14:45,166 --> 00:14:48,096 It's something that cannot be done by a President alone. 282 00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:50,770 It can't be done by a single community alone, 283 00:14:50,767 --> 00:14:54,167 or a mayor or a governor, or by Congress alone. 284 00:14:54,166 --> 00:14:55,266 We all have to work together. 285 00:14:55,266 --> 00:14:58,466 The Press: Would he sign a package passed by Congress that did not include 286 00:14:58,467 --> 00:14:59,467 the assault weapons ban? 287 00:14:59,467 --> 00:15:05,537 Mr. Carney: The President is not saying that any single measure has to be 288 00:15:05,533 --> 00:15:08,903 part of -- let's say there are -- I mean, 289 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:12,970 I don't want to quantify the number of actions that he might 290 00:15:12,967 --> 00:15:15,437 put forward tomorrow, but he believes we ought to move on all 291 00:15:15,433 --> 00:15:19,063 of them, and he's not going to say that we have to move on this 292 00:15:19,066 --> 00:15:20,536 one or else we don't move on that one. 293 00:15:20,533 --> 00:15:23,263 He believes we should pass legislation that closes 294 00:15:23,266 --> 00:15:25,736 loopholes in our background check system. 295 00:15:25,734 --> 00:15:29,404 That's something that I think we've all seen has broad support 296 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,100 across the country, among gun owners and non-gun owners, 297 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:39,130 among people in red states and blue states, 298 00:15:39,133 --> 00:15:40,463 Democrats and Republicans. 299 00:15:40,467 --> 00:15:42,167 And that's something we should act on because it's 300 00:15:42,166 --> 00:15:43,166 very important. 301 00:15:43,166 --> 00:15:45,736 There are a host of measures that we can take that can 302 00:15:45,734 --> 00:15:48,234 address this problem, and he believes we should take them as 303 00:15:48,233 --> 00:15:49,233 a nation. 304 00:15:49,233 --> 00:15:52,863 The Press: Just to clarify, on the question of executive orders versus where 305 00:15:52,867 --> 00:15:55,367 Congress has to act, there are legitimate constitutional 306 00:15:55,367 --> 00:15:58,067 questions and protections in the Second Amendment. 307 00:15:58,066 --> 00:16:00,496 And just to make it abundantly clear, 308 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:03,870 nothing that the President will talk about tomorrow on executive 309 00:16:03,867 --> 00:16:06,237 orders would touch upon those constitutionally protected 310 00:16:06,233 --> 00:16:08,263 Second Amendment rights? 311 00:16:08,266 --> 00:16:12,336 Mr. Carney: There are -- first of all, the President of the United States 312 00:16:12,333 --> 00:16:14,703 believes that the Second Amendment guarantees an 313 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:16,400 individual's right to bear arms. 314 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,430 He has been explicit about this. 315 00:16:18,433 --> 00:16:20,403 And throughout his time in office, 316 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,770 he has made clear that he believes we ought to take 317 00:16:22,767 --> 00:16:26,597 common-sense -- and enact common-sense measures that 318 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,070 protect our Second Amendment rights but prevent people who 319 00:16:29,066 --> 00:16:31,966 should not have weapons from obtaining them. 320 00:16:31,967 --> 00:16:35,167 So his commitment to the Second Amendment I think is very clear. 321 00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:39,896 There's a lot of speculation about what actions he might 322 00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:42,670 propose tomorrow; we don't have much longer to wait to see 323 00:16:42,667 --> 00:16:43,667 what they are. 324 00:16:43,667 --> 00:16:45,537 But his commitment to the Second Amendment is very clear. 325 00:16:45,533 --> 00:16:47,533 The Press: Let me take you a little farther afield. 326 00:16:47,533 --> 00:16:50,463 What do you think, and what does the President think, 327 00:16:50,467 --> 00:16:52,737 and what conversations has he had either with representatives 328 00:16:52,734 --> 00:16:55,204 of the French government or anyone else about what's going 329 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,200 on in Mali? 330 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,470 What are the U.S. interests there? 331 00:16:57,467 --> 00:17:00,767 What is the degree or level of our cooperation now and in the 332 00:17:00,767 --> 00:17:03,997 future with the French and what they're undertaking in Mali? 333 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Mr. Carney: I appreciate the question. 334 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,600 The President did speak with President Hollande last week, 335 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,030 and we share the French goal of denying terrorists a safe haven 336 00:17:13,033 --> 00:17:16,863 in the region, and we support the French operation. 337 00:17:16,867 --> 00:17:19,837 We are supporting the French by sharing information, 338 00:17:19,834 --> 00:17:24,304 and we are considering a request for logistical support. 339 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:27,270 We will stay in close touch with the French government and other 340 00:17:27,266 --> 00:17:30,636 international partners as the situation develops. 341 00:17:30,633 --> 00:17:33,463 As I think you know, the United Nations Security Council 342 00:17:33,467 --> 00:17:36,467 condemned recent attacks by rebel and terrorist groups 343 00:17:36,467 --> 00:17:38,397 against Malian government forces, 344 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,600 and the government of Mali asked for support. 345 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,700 We call for swift implementation of U.N. Security Council 346 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:48,330 Resolution 2085 to restore stability throughout Mali. 347 00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:53,003 It is also imperative that the transitional government of Mali 348 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,870 present a political road map for a return to democratic 349 00:17:55,867 --> 00:17:59,837 governance and negotiations with groups that reject terrorism and 350 00:17:59,834 --> 00:18:01,834 accept a unified Mali. 351 00:18:01,834 --> 00:18:04,304 The Press: What's at stake for the United States? 352 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:09,430 Mr. Carney: Look, we work with our international partners to combat 353 00:18:09,433 --> 00:18:12,733 al Qaeda-linked groups around the world. 354 00:18:12,734 --> 00:18:18,004 We share an interest with the French in depriving terrorists 355 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,200 of a safe haven in North Africa, in a country like Mali, 356 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,830 and we work with nations like France and others in that region 357 00:18:26,834 --> 00:18:31,564 and around the world to achieve the shared goals that we share 358 00:18:31,567 --> 00:18:32,767 -- the goals that we share. 359 00:18:32,767 --> 00:18:37,767 So I think that that is reflected in the actions that 360 00:18:37,767 --> 00:18:39,837 we've taken and the support that we have given to the 361 00:18:39,834 --> 00:18:41,664 French operation. 362 00:18:41,667 --> 00:18:45,867 The Press: On the executive orders to be announced tomorrow, 363 00:18:45,867 --> 00:18:48,397 how do you address concerns that these are an attempt to go 364 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,030 around Congress? 365 00:18:51,033 --> 00:18:56,833 Mr. Carney: Again, I think there have been reports about possible items 366 00:18:56,834 --> 00:18:59,904 that may be proposed by the President. 367 00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:02,730 Some of those reports have been linked to suggestions and 368 00:19:02,734 --> 00:19:07,164 recommendations or conversations that have occurred in the series 369 00:19:07,166 --> 00:19:09,596 of meetings that the Vice President has held as part of 370 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,800 his effort to consider this issue on behalf of 371 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,870 the President. 372 00:19:14,867 --> 00:19:18,897 I would urge you not to make assumptions about what the 373 00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:23,400 President will announce tomorrow based on reports that reflect at 374 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,000 most an earlier stage of the process. 375 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:33,600 The President will announce a plan that is the President's 376 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,630 plan, and he'll do that tomorrow. 377 00:19:36,633 --> 00:19:39,163 The Press: That, I don't think, quite answers the question I -- 378 00:19:39,166 --> 00:19:40,566 Mr. Carney: Well, you made an assertion about what he's going to 379 00:19:40,567 --> 00:19:43,197 announce tomorrow, and I'm saying that reports that suggest 380 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:48,030 or speculate or ponder what he might announce are premature. 381 00:19:48,033 --> 00:19:49,903 The Press: In other words, there may not be executive orders? 382 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:52,170 Mr. Carney: Well, in other words, I'm not going to get specific about what 383 00:19:52,166 --> 00:19:53,536 the President will announce tomorrow. 384 00:19:53,533 --> 00:19:54,733 What I have -- 385 00:19:54,734 --> 00:19:56,564 The Press: But what the President is doing tomorrow some people are 386 00:19:56,567 --> 00:19:58,967 concerned is an attempt to go around Congress. 387 00:19:58,967 --> 00:19:59,967 Mr. Carney: Right. 388 00:19:59,967 --> 00:20:02,437 I think I've answered this several times already in the 389 00:20:02,433 --> 00:20:05,063 short time I've been here, which is that the President believes 390 00:20:05,066 --> 00:20:07,666 in and supports the Second Amendment. 391 00:20:07,667 --> 00:20:10,497 He also understands that there are limits to what can be 392 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:12,830 achieved without congressional action, 393 00:20:12,834 --> 00:20:16,164 which is why he is calling on Congress to act appropriately. 394 00:20:16,166 --> 00:20:20,836 The Press: The fact that the President can propose or announce 395 00:20:20,834 --> 00:20:25,604 administrative actions also suggests that the government 396 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,100 hasn't been doing as much as it could have been in the past in 397 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:31,400 terms of enforcement, for example. 398 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,430 How do you address that question? 399 00:20:34,433 --> 00:20:40,363 Mr. Carney: The President has made clear that we all need to do more, 400 00:20:40,367 --> 00:20:47,097 and we all need to examine our consciences and acknowledge that 401 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:51,470 we have not done enough to protect our children. 402 00:20:51,467 --> 00:20:55,337 If we had, some of the tragedies that we've seen in this country, 403 00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:58,563 most recently in Connecticut, might not have happened. 404 00:20:58,567 --> 00:21:02,937 So you'll hear from the President tomorrow about the 405 00:21:02,934 --> 00:21:06,104 package of proposals he believes are the right ones to help 406 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:07,330 address this problem. 407 00:21:07,333 --> 00:21:08,963 He looks forward to working with Congress. 408 00:21:08,967 --> 00:21:14,067 He looks forward to continuing to work with stakeholders in 409 00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:18,196 this issue of all kinds moving forward. 410 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,070 This is something that we have to address as a nation. 411 00:21:20,066 --> 00:21:24,036 It's not something you can do alone through executive action. 412 00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:28,633 It's not something you can do with even a series of laws that 413 00:21:28,633 --> 00:21:30,063 Congress might pass. 414 00:21:30,066 --> 00:21:33,866 This is a problem that touches on a variety of areas of 415 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,030 American life, and it needs to be approached broadly. 416 00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:42,763 And I think that's why the President asked the Vice 417 00:21:42,767 --> 00:21:44,697 President to take on this effort. 418 00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:47,830 It's why the Vice President met with so many different groups -- 419 00:21:47,834 --> 00:21:50,164 victims groups, gun safety organizations, 420 00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:52,766 advocates for sportsmen and sportswomen, 421 00:21:52,767 --> 00:21:55,167 gun ownership groups, representatives of the 422 00:21:55,166 --> 00:21:57,436 entertainment and video game industries, 423 00:21:57,433 --> 00:21:59,563 as well as members of the House of Representatives. 424 00:21:59,567 --> 00:22:01,437 Secretary Duncan met with representatives from 425 00:22:01,433 --> 00:22:03,363 parent-teacher and education groups. 426 00:22:03,367 --> 00:22:05,337 Secretary Sebelius met with mental health and 427 00:22:05,333 --> 00:22:06,803 disability advocates. 428 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,500 Senior White House officials met with a variety of stakeholders, 429 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:11,870 including medical groups, community organizations, 430 00:22:11,867 --> 00:22:14,467 child and family advocates, business owners, 431 00:22:14,467 --> 00:22:16,137 faith leaders and others. 432 00:22:16,133 --> 00:22:20,033 And I think that -- the breadth of the effort represents the 433 00:22:20,033 --> 00:22:21,033 scope of the problem. 434 00:22:21,033 --> 00:22:22,533 Peter. 435 00:22:22,533 --> 00:22:24,963 The Press: Perhaps this is following up on a question that was asked a 436 00:22:24,967 --> 00:22:27,297 moment before, but to try to pin down a little bit more about 437 00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:30,100 what the word "push" means in terms of the President's efforts 438 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:32,770 -- given before the fiscal cliff deadline that he traveled to 439 00:22:32,767 --> 00:22:34,367 places like Virginia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, 440 00:22:34,367 --> 00:22:38,367 will he go on the road for the issue of gun violence to try to 441 00:22:38,367 --> 00:22:39,967 pursue this campaign? 442 00:22:39,967 --> 00:22:42,697 Mr. Carney: I haven't any scheduling announcements to make. 443 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:45,200 The President considers this a priority. 444 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,870 I think that's been made clear by the speed of action that 445 00:22:50,867 --> 00:22:54,437 you've seen represented here by both the President and the 446 00:22:54,433 --> 00:22:55,633 Vice President. 447 00:22:55,633 --> 00:22:58,303 It will be represented by the event you see tomorrow that the 448 00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:00,370 President and the Vice President will hold. 449 00:23:00,367 --> 00:23:02,697 And I will leave it to the President to 450 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:04,130 announce next steps. 451 00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:07,403 But he believes we need to act now. 452 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,230 He believes that we need to take steps that prevent, 453 00:23:12,233 --> 00:23:16,203 or help prevent the kind of tragic violence against our 454 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,470 children, in particular, that we saw in Newtown, Connecticut, 455 00:23:18,467 --> 00:23:23,137 and we see in less spectacular form around the country 456 00:23:23,133 --> 00:23:24,133 all the time. 457 00:23:24,133 --> 00:23:26,133 The Press: Yesterday, on the one-month anniversary of the awful 458 00:23:26,133 --> 00:23:30,903 shootings at Newtown, the NRA put out a new app that is for 459 00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:33,830 children as young as age four, at least according to its 460 00:23:33,834 --> 00:23:36,734 rating, on iTunes, that allows children or adults, 461 00:23:36,734 --> 00:23:40,164 whoever chooses to, to go to a shooting range and fire. 462 00:23:40,166 --> 00:23:42,636 Given the conversation with the gaming industry taking place, 463 00:23:42,633 --> 00:23:44,533 and others, do you think that's appropriate? 464 00:23:44,533 --> 00:23:46,963 Does the President think that's appropriate? 465 00:23:46,967 --> 00:23:50,867 Mr. Carney: I have heard about this, but I have not had the conversation 466 00:23:50,867 --> 00:23:52,537 with the President about it. 467 00:23:52,533 --> 00:23:56,833 I really -- I haven't seen the app that you're referring to. 468 00:23:56,834 --> 00:23:58,934 The Press: Should four-year-olds be -- 469 00:23:58,934 --> 00:24:01,304 Mr. Carney: Well, I think that these are good questions. 470 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:06,800 And I think some of the answers, we don't know, 471 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:13,370 in terms of what impact and influence apps and videogames 472 00:24:13,367 --> 00:24:15,097 and entertainment has. 473 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:20,870 But that is why the Vice President's group had some of 474 00:24:20,867 --> 00:24:24,237 the meetings that it had, and that's why this conversation 475 00:24:24,233 --> 00:24:26,363 doesn't end tomorrow. 476 00:24:26,367 --> 00:24:27,667 It continues. 477 00:24:27,667 --> 00:24:30,967 And I think for parents around the country, 478 00:24:30,967 --> 00:24:36,397 these are issues that merit examination. 479 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,400 And as a country, these are issues that merit examination. 480 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,870 And some of the issues that are presented here are not ones that 481 00:24:43,867 --> 00:24:47,197 are solvable by Washington action, necessarily. 482 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:55,670 They are more of the nature that bend to the will of community 483 00:24:55,667 --> 00:25:00,397 feelings and parental guidance and the like. 484 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,170 So, again, I don't know much about the specific issue, 485 00:25:05,166 --> 00:25:08,936 but I think, broadly, that's why this issue is so complex. 486 00:25:08,934 --> 00:25:11,234 The Press: And then finally, very briefly, in an interview that will air 487 00:25:11,233 --> 00:25:15,433 later this week, the cyclist Lance Armstrong will admit to 488 00:25:15,433 --> 00:25:17,703 doping, using performance-enhancing drugs 489 00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:20,470 during the time when he won seven Tour de 490 00:25:20,467 --> 00:25:22,097 France championships. 491 00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:26,800 I'm curious, given the fact that just last week we had a Hall of 492 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,670 Fame induction where there were zero baseball players inducted, 493 00:25:29,667 --> 00:25:32,667 what the President's view is of the state of sports in America 494 00:25:32,667 --> 00:25:35,667 today, and if he has any opinion on Lance Armstrong coming 495 00:25:35,667 --> 00:25:37,467 forward with these acknowledgements, 496 00:25:37,467 --> 00:25:38,467 his admissions. 497 00:25:38,467 --> 00:25:40,867 Mr. Carney: Well, I haven't spoken with him about Lance Armstrong, 498 00:25:40,867 --> 00:25:43,697 and I know that there were reports about what he said in 499 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:45,870 this interview, but I haven't seen the interview yet. 500 00:25:45,867 --> 00:25:51,667 What I will say is the President feels very strongly that it's 501 00:25:51,667 --> 00:25:57,497 inappropriate to use performance-enhancing drugs, 502 00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:03,330 and that any steps that any individual athlete takes or 503 00:26:03,333 --> 00:26:08,933 organizations take to reduce their use or eliminate them 504 00:26:08,934 --> 00:26:12,164 are good things. 505 00:26:12,166 --> 00:26:14,636 But beyond that, I haven't got a specific reaction. 506 00:26:14,633 --> 00:26:15,763 The Press: Can I follow up, Jay? 507 00:26:15,767 --> 00:26:16,767 Mr. Carney: Okay. 508 00:26:16,767 --> 00:26:18,837 The Press: Okay, if, in fact, Lance Armstrong admits to doping, 509 00:26:18,834 --> 00:26:22,534 would the President consider directing DOJ to investigate 510 00:26:22,533 --> 00:26:24,903 whether he violated his agreement with U.S. Postal, 511 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:28,200 and whether any of those payments should be repaid? 512 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Mr. Carney: It's a speculative matter, A; B, it's a speculative matter about 513 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,230 a possible legal action. 514 00:26:35,233 --> 00:26:36,233 That's two strikes. 515 00:26:36,233 --> 00:26:37,233 And in this case, you're out. 516 00:26:37,233 --> 00:26:39,103 (laughter) 517 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:42,770 The Press: Do you have any update on how the President is preparing for 518 00:26:42,767 --> 00:26:43,797 his inaugural address? 519 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,630 Any update for us on what historical texts he might be 520 00:26:47,633 --> 00:26:50,763 consulting as he drafts the speech? 521 00:26:50,767 --> 00:26:52,867 Mr. Carney: I don't have much for you. 522 00:26:52,867 --> 00:26:55,067 He's obviously thinking about and working on the 523 00:26:55,066 --> 00:26:57,536 address he'll give. 524 00:26:57,533 --> 00:27:01,563 It's something he feels very fortunate to have the 525 00:27:01,567 --> 00:27:04,837 opportunity to do for a second time. 526 00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:07,834 But beyond that, I just don't have any details for you. 527 00:27:07,834 --> 00:27:10,134 The Press: Turning back to gun policy in recent days, 528 00:27:10,133 --> 00:27:13,003 the President said that just because things are hard doesn't 529 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,430 mean they shouldn't be tried. 530 00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:18,433 Is that the kind of tone we can expect to hear from him next 531 00:27:18,433 --> 00:27:20,433 week during his speech? 532 00:27:20,433 --> 00:27:22,163 Mr. Carney: You mean in the inaugural speech? 533 00:27:22,166 --> 00:27:25,096 Well, I think he was referring to specifically measures to 534 00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:26,930 reduce gun violence. 535 00:27:26,934 --> 00:27:37,664 I think broadly speaking, that reflects I think a very American 536 00:27:37,667 --> 00:27:42,267 mind-set that says we don't shy away from trying to do hard 537 00:27:42,266 --> 00:27:45,166 things because these things are important to do. 538 00:27:45,166 --> 00:27:48,536 But I wouldn't read into that anything about the inaugural 539 00:27:48,533 --> 00:27:49,833 address necessarily. 540 00:27:49,834 --> 00:27:54,734 It's certainly his view about why it's important to push 541 00:27:54,734 --> 00:27:58,004 forward to take common-sense measures to address 542 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,100 gun violence. 543 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:02,770 Even if some folks out there are saying they're really hard or 544 00:28:02,767 --> 00:28:06,597 they can't be done, we have to try. 545 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,130 Jackie. 546 00:28:08,133 --> 00:28:10,463 The Press: Jay, when it comes to not just gun control but maybe 547 00:28:10,467 --> 00:28:14,667 immigration and other issues, how is the President planning to 548 00:28:14,667 --> 00:28:19,197 use, if at all, the grassroots network, OFA or some such, 549 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,570 to engage the millions who were supporters during the campaign, 550 00:28:24,567 --> 00:28:27,867 to help get Congress to act? 551 00:28:27,867 --> 00:28:31,637 Mr. Carney: Well, I don't know specifically about that particular network. 552 00:28:31,633 --> 00:28:34,863 I know that the President believes and has learned over 553 00:28:34,867 --> 00:28:38,837 the course of his first term that it is vitally important 554 00:28:38,834 --> 00:28:48,064 when trying to move forward on an agenda that is both necessary 555 00:28:48,066 --> 00:28:54,636 and enjoys popular support that we engage the public. 556 00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:57,663 And that's an approach he has taken for some time now, 557 00:28:57,667 --> 00:28:59,767 and I think, broadly speaking, it's an approach he'll 558 00:28:59,767 --> 00:29:02,237 continue to take. 559 00:29:02,233 --> 00:29:05,303 It's not a question of do you sit down in a room with leaders 560 00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:09,500 of Congress, or do you go out and engage the American people. 561 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:10,500 You do both. 562 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,200 And he has, I think, demonstrated especially for the 563 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,470 last two years that that's -- the both-and approach is the 564 00:29:18,467 --> 00:29:21,337 approach that's effective, and it's the approach I think you 565 00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:22,603 can expect he'll continue to take. 566 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,070 The Press: It was never that successful in the first term. 567 00:29:25,066 --> 00:29:26,966 The payroll tax cut, a couple other things, 568 00:29:26,967 --> 00:29:28,997 but nothing on a large scale. 569 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,330 Is there going to be -- can we expect to see sort of greater 570 00:29:33,333 --> 00:29:35,063 use or mobilization of that -- 571 00:29:35,066 --> 00:29:38,096 Mr. Carney: I think for millions of Americans who saw their payroll 572 00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:42,070 tax cut extended, for millions of students who saw their 573 00:29:42,066 --> 00:29:47,136 student loan rates kept low, and for virtually all working 574 00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:52,163 Americans who saw tax cuts -- their taxes kept low, their 575 00:29:52,166 --> 00:30:00,166 income tax rates kept low as a result of the fiscal cliff deal 576 00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:06,466 -- for those people, the President's success in using 577 00:30:06,467 --> 00:30:11,237 this strategy I think is pretty notable and those are big things 578 00:30:11,233 --> 00:30:15,633 -- big things for the American people. 579 00:30:15,633 --> 00:30:18,103 Going forward, I think as a general matter, 580 00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:21,100 he believes that just because some of the issues that we 581 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:25,170 debate here in Washington can sound arcane, 582 00:30:25,166 --> 00:30:29,796 can involve terminology like "raising the debt ceiling," 583 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:35,600 or "spending in the out-years," or "entitlement reform," 584 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,930 these are issues that matter deeply to everyday Americans 585 00:30:40,934 --> 00:30:45,904 and affect their livelihoods and affect their potential in the 586 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:46,900 American economy. 587 00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:50,330 So he thinks the American people care. 588 00:30:50,333 --> 00:30:53,603 He thinks that they want to hear from their leaders in Washington 589 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,630 about the things that they're debating here. 590 00:30:58,633 --> 00:31:02,403 And he'll absolutely continue to engage with the American people 591 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,570 on the policy proposals that he's putting forward. 592 00:31:04,567 --> 00:31:05,867 The Press: Can I follow up on that? 593 00:31:05,867 --> 00:31:06,737 Mr. Carney: Sure. 594 00:31:06,734 --> 00:31:08,064 If Jackie is finished. 595 00:31:08,066 --> 00:31:09,936 Jackie, do you yield to -- 596 00:31:09,934 --> 00:31:12,164 The Press: I yield to Ari. 597 00:31:12,166 --> 00:31:13,266 The Press: Thank you, Jackie. 598 00:31:13,266 --> 00:31:14,296 (laughter) 599 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:16,670 You just said it's not a choice between engaging with Congress 600 00:31:16,667 --> 00:31:18,397 or the American people, you do both. 601 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,200 Last summer you said the President had not spoken ever 602 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,870 with Senator Marco Rubio about immigration. 603 00:31:23,867 --> 00:31:27,437 Now Rubio has come out and sort of laid out his key points 604 00:31:27,433 --> 00:31:28,433 on immigration. 605 00:31:28,433 --> 00:31:30,333 Has the President or anyone senior from the White House 606 00:31:30,333 --> 00:31:34,733 spoken with him yet about it? 607 00:31:34,734 --> 00:31:41,334 Mr. Carney: Well, Senator Rubio at the time had I think demonstrated and 608 00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:45,133 reported absence of support among Republican leaders for 609 00:31:45,133 --> 00:31:47,833 even the issues that he was discussing. 610 00:31:47,834 --> 00:31:50,164 The President has put forward -- and there is a blueprint on 611 00:31:50,166 --> 00:31:53,796 WhiteHouse.gov that demonstrates this -- 612 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,100 an approach to comprehensive immigration reform that he 613 00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:59,000 believes we need to move forward on, 614 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,170 and that you can expect him to move forward on in the 615 00:32:04,166 --> 00:32:06,096 relatively near future. 616 00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:10,930 The fact is we are encouraged -- referring now to recent reports 617 00:32:10,934 --> 00:32:13,764 -- that Senator Rubio's thinking, as reported, 618 00:32:13,767 --> 00:32:16,037 so closely reflects the President's blueprint 619 00:32:16,033 --> 00:32:17,333 for reform. 620 00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:19,633 The President has long called for partners from both sides of 621 00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:20,633 the aisle. 622 00:32:20,633 --> 00:32:23,563 And he has lamented the absence of partners from the other side 623 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:24,567 of the aisle. 624 00:32:24,567 --> 00:32:26,137 It used to be a bipartisan pursuit, 625 00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:28,163 comprehensive immigration reform. 626 00:32:28,166 --> 00:32:30,496 For a while it ceased to be. 627 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:32,470 But he certainly hopes that it will be in the future. 628 00:32:32,467 --> 00:32:37,237 And the reports about Senator Rubio's ideas bode well for a 629 00:32:37,233 --> 00:32:40,463 productive bipartisan debate, which we hope will start in 630 00:32:40,467 --> 00:32:42,737 earnest soon after the inauguration. 631 00:32:42,734 --> 00:32:45,764 We hope that it signals a change in the Republican approach to 632 00:32:45,767 --> 00:32:48,367 this issue, because if we are going to get this done it's 633 00:32:48,367 --> 00:32:51,137 going to take more than just a handful of Republicans working 634 00:32:51,133 --> 00:32:52,133 across the aisle. 635 00:32:52,133 --> 00:32:54,203 It's the kind of thing -- comprehensive immigration reform 636 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,500 -- that requires significant bipartisan support. 637 00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:00,400 And he hopes that this augers well for the future. 638 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,500 The Press: But why rely on reports and what you hope he's thinking? 639 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,400 Why not pick up the phone and call Marco Rubio? 640 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,400 Mr. Carney: Well, you're suggesting that we won't? 641 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,700 The Press: Or any Republican on immigration. 642 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:10,770 Mr. Carney: There is no question that as we move forward with immigration 643 00:33:10,767 --> 00:33:12,467 reform, comprehensive immigration reform, 644 00:33:12,467 --> 00:33:16,297 that it will involve engagement with Democrats and Republicans. 645 00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:18,070 And you can expect that that will happen. 646 00:33:18,066 --> 00:33:22,636 Again, to my knowledge, Senator Rubio has yet to put anything on 647 00:33:22,633 --> 00:33:26,603 paper, or draw up any legislation. 648 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,400 We welcome reports of his positions and look forward to 649 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,070 working with him and other Republicans in pursuit of 650 00:33:34,066 --> 00:33:36,996 comprehensive immigration reform because it's the right thing to 651 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,270 do for the country and the President considers it a 652 00:33:40,266 --> 00:33:41,266 high priority. 653 00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:43,136 Bill. 654 00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:46,503 The Press: As we've seen in the first term, it's difficult for Congress to 655 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:49,830 move on two sort of complicated issues at the same time, 656 00:33:49,834 --> 00:33:52,504 and the President wants to push on immigration and on 657 00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:53,500 gun violence. 658 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,070 And I'm wondering how he prioritizes the two. 659 00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:58,666 Is there one that he wants the Senate to take up first over 660 00:33:58,667 --> 00:33:59,667 the other? 661 00:33:59,667 --> 00:34:02,897 Is there one he thinks is more important or more urgent for the 662 00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:04,270 American people? 663 00:34:04,266 --> 00:34:07,036 Mr. Carney: Well, when we talk about efforts to reduce gun violence, 664 00:34:07,033 --> 00:34:08,963 we're talking not just about legislative action. 665 00:34:08,967 --> 00:34:10,897 And when it comes to legislative action, 666 00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:13,130 the President has already identified things that Congress 667 00:34:13,133 --> 00:34:16,663 is actively considering, either the legislation exists or is 668 00:34:16,667 --> 00:34:17,737 being worked on. 669 00:34:17,734 --> 00:34:23,464 And he calls on Congress to act right away on the measures that 670 00:34:23,467 --> 00:34:25,637 he believes are important -- the assault weapons ban, 671 00:34:25,633 --> 00:34:28,663 a measure to deal with high-capacity magazine clips, 672 00:34:28,667 --> 00:34:35,197 a measure to close loopholes in our background check system. 673 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,730 There is no doubt that we will move very quickly. 674 00:34:37,734 --> 00:34:41,464 I think I just made clear in the statement I read that he expects 675 00:34:41,467 --> 00:34:44,197 to move very quickly on immigration after 676 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,200 the inauguration. 677 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,430 And I think that while what you say is true about the capacity 678 00:34:48,433 --> 00:34:49,433 of Congress to move forward on things, 679 00:34:49,433 --> 00:34:55,163 I think there is no reason to believe that these kinds of 680 00:34:55,166 --> 00:34:58,396 issues can't be worked on at the same time. 681 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,800 And you can expect the President to push for both measures to 682 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,700 reduce gun violence and for comprehensive immigration reform 683 00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:08,570 because they are both priorities of his. 684 00:35:08,567 --> 00:35:10,637 The Press: Speaking of the members of Congress, 685 00:35:10,633 --> 00:35:14,203 you're going to have lawmakers down here for the event 686 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,600 tomorrow, I assume. 687 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,630 Mr. Carney: I have only for you that there will be kids who wrote letters 688 00:35:20,633 --> 00:35:22,863 to the President and their families. 689 00:35:22,867 --> 00:35:23,867 The Press: No lawmakers? 690 00:35:23,867 --> 00:35:28,067 Mr. Carney: Well, I have no other attendees to announce. 691 00:35:28,066 --> 00:35:30,636 The Press: Jay, also on gun control or the gun issue, 692 00:35:30,633 --> 00:35:34,963 you mentioned the prospect for ongoing conversations with all 693 00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:36,337 of the stakeholders. 694 00:35:36,333 --> 00:35:40,803 Given the NRA's response very shortly after the meeting with 695 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,400 Vice President Biden, do they have -- 696 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,530 do you see any dialogue between the White House and them 697 00:35:45,533 --> 00:35:46,533 going forward? 698 00:35:46,533 --> 00:35:48,603 Mr. Carney: Well, I think that it's obviously up to each 699 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:54,070 organization or group that wants to engage in this issue in a 700 00:35:54,066 --> 00:35:57,236 constructive way, and we are certainly open to engaging, 701 00:35:57,233 --> 00:35:59,703 as has been demonstrated by the Vice President's effort thus 702 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:03,100 far, with a broad range of interested groups. 703 00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:06,070 And that will certainly continue to be the case going forward. 704 00:36:06,066 --> 00:36:09,866 And I think it will likely continue to be the case when 705 00:36:09,867 --> 00:36:12,967 Congress is considering specific pieces of legislation. 706 00:36:12,967 --> 00:36:19,167 But my point was that this is more than an issue between the 707 00:36:19,166 --> 00:36:21,766 administration and Congress, more than an issue between 708 00:36:21,767 --> 00:36:23,397 elected representatives from both parties. 709 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,000 This is a broader national issue that requires a conversation to 710 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,400 continue about gun violence in our country, 711 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,370 gun violence in our culture. 712 00:36:36,367 --> 00:36:39,437 And I think the President believes that tomorrow is not 713 00:36:39,433 --> 00:36:41,363 the end of something, it's the beginning of something. 714 00:36:41,367 --> 00:36:44,297 The Press: Well, given their rejection to everything that was discussed at 715 00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:46,470 that table with the Vice President, 716 00:36:46,467 --> 00:36:49,167 do you see any role for them? 717 00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:52,566 Mr. Carney: Again, I'm not going to -- each organization or group that has 718 00:36:52,567 --> 00:36:56,237 an interest in this issue will have to decide for itself how 719 00:36:56,233 --> 00:37:00,363 much it wants to engage constructively in pursuit of 720 00:37:00,367 --> 00:37:02,337 common-sense measures to reduce gun violence. 721 00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:05,633 I'm certainly not going to speak for one organization or 722 00:37:05,633 --> 00:37:06,603 the other. 723 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,600 Mike, and then Olivier. 724 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,370 The Press: Two matters if you'll indulge me, 725 00:37:09,367 --> 00:37:11,537 the first one a foreign affairs issue. 726 00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:14,763 The American pastor that's being put on trial in Iran, 727 00:37:14,767 --> 00:37:18,697 Saeed Abedini -- has the President been kept apprised of 728 00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:19,700 his situation? 729 00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:24,570 He's supposed to be going before Iran's "hanging judge" and do 730 00:37:24,567 --> 00:37:26,537 you have a statement on this case? 731 00:37:26,533 --> 00:37:27,533 Mr. Carney: I don't have a statement. 732 00:37:27,533 --> 00:37:28,933 I'll have to take the question. 733 00:37:28,934 --> 00:37:31,734 The President is obviously updated on a variety of issues 734 00:37:31,734 --> 00:37:33,934 with regards to Iran, but I don't have anything specific for 735 00:37:33,934 --> 00:37:34,934 you on that. 736 00:37:34,934 --> 00:37:35,934 I'll take the question. 737 00:37:35,934 --> 00:37:37,504 The Press: And on the gun issue, I wanted to bring up something that you 738 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:38,830 brought up a couple briefings ago, 739 00:37:38,834 --> 00:37:41,834 the President brought up on the day of the shooting, 740 00:37:41,834 --> 00:37:44,464 and that is the ATF director. 741 00:37:44,467 --> 00:37:46,797 Obviously, it's been a longstanding open position, 742 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,300 but in terms of the nominee the President put forward, 743 00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:53,470 the ranking Republican in the Senate, Charles Grassley, 744 00:37:53,467 --> 00:37:56,697 on the Judiciary Committee, said that the main reason that he's 745 00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:59,170 not moving is they haven't been given the documents that they've 746 00:37:59,166 --> 00:38:02,736 asked for, answers to questions that they've asked for. 747 00:38:02,734 --> 00:38:05,804 Where does the White House see the holdup on that nomination? 748 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,700 Mr. Carney: Well, I think that it's a simple fact that it's been a very long 749 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:15,000 time since the Senate has confirmed a head of the ATF and 750 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,200 it needs to act. 751 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,200 I'll have to take the question on the specific issues that are 752 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,830 in dispute here about why that hasn't moved, 753 00:38:23,834 --> 00:38:27,734 but I think usually the case when -- 754 00:38:27,734 --> 00:38:32,364 usually when there's a case of nominations being held up and 755 00:38:32,367 --> 00:38:37,337 congressional inaction, the problem is often with Congress. 756 00:38:37,333 --> 00:38:40,203 But we will certainly -- I will take that question. 757 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,330 The Press: Then let me just redirect that a little bit. 758 00:38:42,333 --> 00:38:45,333 Where do you see that fitting in to the problem that we have with 759 00:38:45,333 --> 00:38:47,663 gun violence -- the lack of an ATF director? 760 00:38:47,667 --> 00:38:49,867 What shortcomings does that leave in the federal 761 00:38:49,867 --> 00:38:51,197 law enforcement? 762 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,430 Mr. Carney: Well, I think an agency with the responsibilities that ATF has 763 00:38:54,433 --> 00:38:59,363 that has lacked a confirmed leader for the amount of time 764 00:38:59,367 --> 00:39:05,367 that it does I think reflects the lack of necessary focus on 765 00:39:05,367 --> 00:39:06,367 these problems. 766 00:39:06,367 --> 00:39:09,637 It's hard to measure what the impact of that absence has been, 767 00:39:09,633 --> 00:39:14,303 but it's hard to imagine how it would be positive. 768 00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:17,600 Olivier. 769 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,400 The Press: Jay, a couple for you, one on Mali. 770 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,200 You said that the President is considering a request for 771 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,200 logistical help. 772 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,970 Does that request as currently written put American servicemen 773 00:39:26,967 --> 00:39:29,967 and women in harm's way? 774 00:39:29,967 --> 00:39:34,867 Mr. Carney: We are not contemplating that kind of action. 775 00:39:34,867 --> 00:39:38,167 We are talking about logistical support, 776 00:39:38,166 --> 00:39:42,096 providing intelligence assistance. 777 00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:47,300 This is aid and assistance to an effort that the French 778 00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:48,300 are undertaking. 779 00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:51,570 I think Secretary Panetta has spoken to this. 780 00:39:51,567 --> 00:39:54,167 He's traveling in Europe, but I think he spoke to this in the 781 00:39:54,166 --> 00:39:55,836 last few hours. 782 00:39:55,834 --> 00:39:57,734 But that's the nature of what we're considering here, 783 00:39:57,734 --> 00:39:59,464 logistical support. 784 00:39:59,467 --> 00:40:00,467 The Press: -- drones? 785 00:40:00,467 --> 00:40:04,267 Mr. Carney: I think you may be referring to a question from a leader of 786 00:40:04,266 --> 00:40:05,266 another country. 787 00:40:05,266 --> 00:40:08,696 But again, the logistical support we're talking about here 788 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:11,930 is of the nature I described -- refueling, that kind of thing. 789 00:40:11,934 --> 00:40:13,034 The Press: And on a separate subject. 790 00:40:13,033 --> 00:40:15,403 I'm sure that you guys were thrilled that Senator Schumer 791 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,500 came out strongly in favor of the Hagel nomination. 792 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:21,200 But I'm wondering how you feel about his assessment that Israel 793 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,770 is in "a dramatically more endangered position" than it was 794 00:40:24,767 --> 00:40:26,967 when the President took office? 795 00:40:26,967 --> 00:40:30,767 Mr. Carney: Well, I don't -- you'd have to flesh out the context there. 796 00:40:30,767 --> 00:40:34,497 I think that we certainly welcome the statement from 797 00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:37,170 Senator Schumer, statement from Senator Boxer, 798 00:40:37,166 --> 00:40:40,496 other senators who have come out in support of Senator Hagel's 799 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:45,200 nomination, and we believe that represents momentum behind 800 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,030 Senator Hagel's nomination. 801 00:40:47,033 --> 00:40:51,733 And we look forward to the confirmation 802 00:40:51,734 --> 00:40:55,604 proceedings continuing. 803 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,500 Again, I'm not sure -- you have to give me the context of -- 804 00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:00,570 The Press: Sure. 805 00:41:00,567 --> 00:41:01,567 Well, he talks about how Senator Hagel -- 806 00:41:01,567 --> 00:41:05,997 cast some of his past comments about Israel and about Iran as 807 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,530 basically statements from that era and things have changed. 808 00:41:09,533 --> 00:41:14,103 I can try to pull the actual full Schumer statement. 809 00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:17,270 I don't know how productive that is, 810 00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:20,896 but he says that Senator Hagel expressed -- 811 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:25,430 here we go, I got it -- 812 00:41:25,433 --> 00:41:26,803 Mr. Carney: Wonders of technology. 813 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,800 (laughter) 814 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,770 The Press: "Senator Hagel realizes that the situation in the Middle East has 815 00:41:31,767 --> 00:41:34,297 "changed, with Israel in a dramatically more endangered 816 00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:38,030 "position than it was even five years ago." 817 00:41:38,033 --> 00:41:42,333 Mr. Carney: Well, I don't want to embellish on what Senator Schumer said. 818 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:46,033 There is no question that -- let's talk about Iran -- 819 00:41:46,033 --> 00:41:53,563 that Iran is recognized as a threat to Israel. 820 00:41:53,567 --> 00:41:56,397 And we certainly see it that way. 821 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,630 That is why the President has pursued a policy that has put 822 00:41:59,633 --> 00:42:03,863 unprecedented pressure on Iran, unprecedented sanctions on Iran, 823 00:42:03,867 --> 00:42:07,237 a sanctions regime with international cooperation that 824 00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:11,433 has led to -- had a dramatic impact on Iran's economy, 825 00:42:11,433 --> 00:42:17,503 and why the President has made clear that it is his policy that 826 00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:19,700 Iran cannot obtain a nuclear weapon. 827 00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:31,370 I think that what is also clear is that this President believes 828 00:42:31,367 --> 00:42:34,237 deeply in the unshakable bond between the United States and 829 00:42:34,233 --> 00:42:38,633 Israel and our absolute commitment to Israel's defense. 830 00:42:38,633 --> 00:42:41,963 And that is a commitment that Senator Hagel -- 831 00:42:41,967 --> 00:42:43,537 hopefully, Secretary Hagel -- shares. 832 00:42:43,533 --> 00:42:45,733 Andrei. 833 00:42:45,734 --> 00:42:46,834 The Press: Thank you, Jay. 834 00:42:46,834 --> 00:42:51,104 Jay, I keep reading things about the U.S.-Russian relations that, 835 00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,670 frankly, surprise me. 836 00:42:53,667 --> 00:42:55,797 Mr. Carney: In your press or ours? 837 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,500 (laughter) 838 00:42:57,500 --> 00:42:58,500 The Press: In both. 839 00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:03,100 But I'm here to cover the U.S., so I'm reading the 840 00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:04,100 American press. 841 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:07,100 And I'm reading how the relations are supposedly at 842 00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:08,430 their lowest point. 843 00:43:08,433 --> 00:43:13,633 Yesterday, I think the Post referred to a "poisonous 844 00:43:13,633 --> 00:43:15,003 "unraveling" of relations. 845 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,530 And sometimes, I have the feeling that the writers sort of 846 00:43:19,533 --> 00:43:22,533 present it as if coming from the top of the administration, 847 00:43:22,533 --> 00:43:23,533 from the White House. 848 00:43:23,533 --> 00:43:28,603 So my question to you is does the White House see it that way? 849 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,300 Mr. Carney: Well, I think you would be misinterpreting I think -- 850 00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:33,570 I'm not sure which reports you're reading. 851 00:43:33,567 --> 00:43:38,367 It wouldn't be the first time that a writer maybe exaggerated 852 00:43:38,367 --> 00:43:39,837 the level of his or her sourcing. 853 00:43:39,834 --> 00:43:43,904 (laughter) 854 00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:44,900 Here's what I would tell you. 855 00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:47,770 The President believes that our relationship with Russia is 856 00:43:47,767 --> 00:43:49,367 very important. 857 00:43:49,367 --> 00:43:54,137 We have worked cooperatively together since he took office 858 00:43:54,133 --> 00:43:59,503 across a spectrum of issues that have benefited both Russia and 859 00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:00,570 the United States. 860 00:44:00,567 --> 00:44:04,067 It is also the case that we have disagreements. 861 00:44:04,066 --> 00:44:06,936 One of the developments that's important in our relationship 862 00:44:06,934 --> 00:44:10,404 with Russia is that when we have disagreements we're very clear 863 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,330 about them, but we do not let them get in the way of 864 00:44:13,333 --> 00:44:15,733 necessarily the areas of cooperation that we 865 00:44:15,734 --> 00:44:17,334 have pursued. 866 00:44:17,333 --> 00:44:20,063 I think that the idea that our relationship -- 867 00:44:20,066 --> 00:44:22,636 I mean, you and I are old enough and have been around long enough 868 00:44:22,633 --> 00:44:25,463 to know that any characterization like that is 869 00:44:25,467 --> 00:44:28,567 ridiculous given the relationship at least between 870 00:44:28,567 --> 00:44:34,637 the Soviet Union and the United States and I think different 871 00:44:34,633 --> 00:44:36,903 periods even since the collapse of the Soviet Union. 872 00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:38,700 We continue to work cooperatively with Russia. 873 00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:40,400 It's a very important relationship. 874 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,470 We are very clear-eyed, as I think the Russians are, 875 00:44:42,467 --> 00:44:47,097 about where we disagree, and very aggressive in working with 876 00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:50,930 Russia on areas where we do agree and where we can achieve 877 00:44:50,934 --> 00:44:54,864 goals, shared goals together, both in the international arena 878 00:44:54,867 --> 00:44:57,337 and in our bilateral relationship. 879 00:44:57,333 --> 00:45:02,363 The Press: I understand that Mr. Donilon is planning a visit to Russia soon. 880 00:45:02,367 --> 00:45:04,637 Can you tell us anything about that? 881 00:45:04,633 --> 00:45:09,003 Mr. Carney: I don't have any scheduling or trip announcements to make on 882 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,870 behalf of the National Security Advisor. 883 00:45:11,867 --> 00:45:13,267 The Press: Jay, looking ahead to this weekend, 884 00:45:13,266 --> 00:45:16,236 can you walk us through the Sunday private swearing-in? 885 00:45:16,233 --> 00:45:17,203 How is that going to unfold? 886 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,300 Who is going to be here and what time is it? 887 00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:23,670 Mr. Carney: He will be sworn in -- the President will be sworn in prior 888 00:45:23,667 --> 00:45:28,667 to noon in the Residence, in the Blue Room, by Chief 889 00:45:28,667 --> 00:45:31,737 Justice Roberts. 890 00:45:31,734 --> 00:45:35,434 The attendees will be immediate family. 891 00:45:35,433 --> 00:45:40,363 There will be full live pool coverage. 892 00:45:40,367 --> 00:45:43,667 And he will be sworn in on two Bibles, 893 00:45:43,667 --> 00:45:47,237 as I think has been reported -- the Abraham Lincoln Bible that 894 00:45:47,233 --> 00:45:50,103 he used at his swearing-in four years ago, 895 00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:53,000 as well as a Martin Luther King Bible on top of that. 896 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,470 So those are the details. 897 00:45:55,467 --> 00:45:59,037 The Press: Now, the Inaugural Committee said he was going to use the two 898 00:45:59,033 --> 00:46:03,533 Bibles at the Capitol, but he's using a Robinson family Bible -- 899 00:46:03,533 --> 00:46:05,033 Mr. Carney: I will have to check. 900 00:46:05,033 --> 00:46:08,003 I thought he was using both Bibles here as well. 901 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,670 Let me check that for you. 902 00:46:10,667 --> 00:46:13,337 The Press: This thing is only going to take, like, five 903 00:46:13,333 --> 00:46:14,333 minutes, then, right? 904 00:46:14,333 --> 00:46:16,303 Is there anything else? 905 00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:18,400 Mr. Carney: I would not expect a pre-inaugural speech. 906 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,400 (laughter) 907 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,970 Again, this will be -- everyone understands the reason why it's 908 00:46:21,967 --> 00:46:25,237 happening on Sunday and then the bigger event on Monday. 909 00:46:25,233 --> 00:46:30,533 And there will be full pool coverage of that event. 910 00:46:30,533 --> 00:46:36,703 I think you're right that it's not likely to take very long. 911 00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:41,030 The Press: Can you post a clarification on the -- 912 00:46:41,033 --> 00:46:43,103 a verification on the Bible? 913 00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:44,100 Mr. Carney: Sure. 914 00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:45,430 I mean, obviously PIC has the details, too. 915 00:46:45,433 --> 00:46:46,963 But we will post a clarification. 916 00:46:46,967 --> 00:46:47,997 David. 917 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,600 The Press: Jay, the President deployed U.S. troops to Somalia last weekend 918 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,400 with the French on a rescue mission. 919 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,270 Taking that into context, again, with the request of the French 920 00:46:55,266 --> 00:46:58,096 for help in Mali, does this represent an expanding front in 921 00:46:58,100 --> 00:46:59,900 the war on terrorism for U.S. forces? 922 00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:02,300 And what is the President's criteria going forward to 923 00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:04,900 provide aid in these kind of situations? 924 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:07,200 Mr. Carney: Well, let's be clear that, with regards to Somalia, 925 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,100 on January 11th, French forces conducted an operation in 926 00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,230 Somalia in which they attempted to rescue a French citizen being 927 00:47:13,233 --> 00:47:16,933 held hostage by Al-Shabaab. 928 00:47:16,934 --> 00:47:20,204 Our forces provided limited technical support to the French 929 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,530 forces in that operation, but took no direct part in the 930 00:47:23,533 --> 00:47:26,603 assault on the compound where it was believed that the French 931 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,730 citizen was being held hostage. 932 00:47:28,734 --> 00:47:32,864 U.S. combat aircraft briefly entered Somali airspace to 933 00:47:32,867 --> 00:47:35,267 support the rescue operation if needed. 934 00:47:35,266 --> 00:47:38,996 These aircraft did not employ weapons during the operation. 935 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,430 Because the U.S. combat aircraft entered Somali airspace, 936 00:47:42,433 --> 00:47:46,263 the President provided a report to the Congress on the 937 00:47:46,266 --> 00:47:49,666 operation, in keeping with the War Powers Resolution. 938 00:47:49,667 --> 00:47:53,297 On your broader question about our approach to these matters, 939 00:47:53,300 --> 00:48:00,630 we obviously work with our allies in an effort to deal with 940 00:48:00,633 --> 00:48:05,763 al Qaeda and its affiliates around the world and around both 941 00:48:05,767 --> 00:48:08,397 the Middle East, in North Africa, and elsewhere. 942 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,900 The operation that the French have undertaken in Mali is one 943 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:16,330 that we support, but it is a French operation. 944 00:48:16,333 --> 00:48:19,803 We have, as you know, been focused not only on al Qaeda 945 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,130 central -- which is the reason why we went to war in 946 00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:26,903 Afghanistan, was to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al Qaeda 947 00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:32,670 central -- in that region because al Qaeda launched an 948 00:48:32,667 --> 00:48:36,937 attack against the United States on September 11th, 2001, 949 00:48:36,934 --> 00:48:39,964 that took thousands of American lives. 950 00:48:39,967 --> 00:48:46,537 We have discussed our efforts in Yemen and elsewhere because 951 00:48:46,533 --> 00:48:49,403 those organizations -- al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula 952 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,170 represent a direct threat to the American homeland, 953 00:48:52,166 --> 00:48:54,796 a direct threat to American citizens. 954 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,070 More broadly speaking, when you talk about other al Qaeda 955 00:48:57,066 --> 00:48:59,766 affiliates or other similarly inclined terrorist 956 00:48:59,767 --> 00:49:03,467 organizations, we work with our allies around the world to 957 00:49:03,467 --> 00:49:07,337 assist their efforts to deprive terrorists of safe havens, 958 00:49:07,333 --> 00:49:12,433 or deal with terrorist organizations that represent 959 00:49:12,433 --> 00:49:16,433 threats, in the case of Mali to French citizens. 960 00:49:16,433 --> 00:49:20,403 AQIM -- in Mali -- has taken a number of French citizens 961 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,600 hostage, for example. 962 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,030 So we work with allies like France in that effort. 963 00:49:27,033 --> 00:49:30,403 The Press: Is the U.S. doing anything about the reported movement of arms 964 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,300 from Libya into Mali? 965 00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:36,200 Mr. Carney: I would address that question to State or Defense. 966 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,970 I can look into it as well, but I don't have anything for 967 00:49:38,967 --> 00:49:39,967 you on that. 968 00:49:39,967 --> 00:49:40,967 The Press: Thanks, Jay. 969 00:49:40,967 --> 00:49:41,967 Mr. Carney: I'll take one more. 970 00:49:41,967 --> 00:49:43,637 Cheryl, way in the back. 971 00:49:43,633 --> 00:49:44,633 The Press: Thanks, Jay. 972 00:49:44,633 --> 00:49:46,633 Is Denis McDonough going to be the next White House 973 00:49:46,633 --> 00:49:48,133 Chief of Staff? 974 00:49:48,133 --> 00:49:49,163 Mr. Carney: That's an easy one. 975 00:49:49,166 --> 00:49:51,196 I have no personnel announcements to make -- 976 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,200 (laughter) 977 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,200 -- from the podium today. 978 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,730 Thank you all very much. 979 00:49:54,734 --> 00:49:56,034 The Press: One follow-up? 980 00:49:56,033 --> 00:49:57,033 Mr. Carney: Yes, one follow-up. 981 00:49:57,033 --> 00:49:58,303 Oh, wait, a different person, Donovan. 982 00:49:58,300 --> 00:49:59,330 Okay. 983 00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:00,333 The Press: Sorry. 984 00:50:00,333 --> 00:50:01,603 Mr. Carney: That's okay. 985 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,400 The Press: We're just a few days away from the second term starting, 986 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,930 and there are four Cabinet officials that have yet to 987 00:50:06,934 --> 00:50:10,034 announce their plans, including the Secretaries of Energy and 988 00:50:10,033 --> 00:50:12,633 Interior and Transportation. 989 00:50:12,633 --> 00:50:14,963 When can we expect to know that? 990 00:50:14,967 --> 00:50:17,567 I mean, it seems we're getting right up to the end here. 991 00:50:17,567 --> 00:50:23,797 The Press: I have no personnel announcements to make. 992 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,170 I think you can expect, broadly speaking, 993 00:50:27,166 --> 00:50:29,766 the President to make announcements when he's ready to 994 00:50:29,767 --> 00:50:31,767 make them with appropriate haste, 995 00:50:31,767 --> 00:50:40,137 but also with the appropriate amount of consideration. 996 00:50:40,133 --> 00:50:42,203 In other words, no answer. 997 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,000 (laughter) 998 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,370 Thanks.