File talk:Multatuli - Ideeën III.djvu

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There's seem to be a little problem, isn't it..? Yuval Y § Chat § 00:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://books.google.com/books?id=NiZcAAAAMAAJ&q=Multatuli%27s+Idee%C3%ABn&dq=Multatuli%27s+Idee%C3%ABn&ei=5_YySs3oAZGiygTcsaSpBg&pgis=1

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  • Title Ideeën
  • Authors Multatuli, Gerrit Komrij
  • Editor Gerrit Komrij
  • Compiled by Gerrit Komrij
  • Publisher De Arbeiderspers, 1971
  • Original from the University of Michigan
  • Digitized Mar 21, 2008
  • ISBN 9029532033, 9789029532037
  • Length 156 pages

Yuval Y § Chat § 00:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is any problem. Multatuli died in 1887, so his works are in the Public Domain for a long, long time. This document here was printed in 1873 (as can be verified on page 11 of this file), so the assumption that Gerrit Komrij is a co-author is fundamentally false, since he hadn't been born yet in 1873.
I would like to know how you see that Google can claim copyright or any other rights on this document. That is contrary to the essence of Public Domain. It would also be contrary to Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp. (1999) and the Dutch Supreme Court Case Van Dale/Romme (1991). The official Wikimedia Foundation position on this is as follows:
To put it plainly, WMF's position has always been that faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works of art are public domain, and that claims to the contrary represent an assault on the very concept of a public domain. If museums and galleries not only claim copyright on reproductions, but also control the access to the ability to reproduce pictures (by prohibiting photos, etc.), important historical works that are legally in the public domain can be made inaccessible to the public except through gatekeepers.
WMF has made it clear that in the absence of even a strong legal complaint, we don't think it's a good idea to dignify such claims of copyright on public domain works. And, if we ever were seriously legally challenged, we would have a good internal debate about whether we'd fight such a case, and build publicity around it. This is neither a policy change (at least from WMF's point of view), nor is it a change that has implications for other Commons policies.Erik Möller 01:34, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Furthermore, there are MANY, MANY books from Google Books here on Commons, like for example File:American Bastile.djvu, so I don't see why there should be a problem with this document all of a sudden. Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 01:57, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, no problem. It's just that I've seen the google notice, and became curious and a bit suspicious... Yuval Y § Chat § 13:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]