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Ribats & Thoghour
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Ribats are fortificcations at or near the borders (later on they were changed to include a Sufi Murabetoon). Ribats were present in the whole Arabic world. Check Ribats in other parts of Africa (Niger, Burkina Faso & also Gambia) [1]; Ribats in Asia (Afghanistan, Iran, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Yemen) [2]; and Ribats in Europe (France, Italy, Malta, Portugal, Spain) [3]. So I am adding Ribats and Thoughour to this Photo. Please discuss here.--Ashashyou (talk) 01:14, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not quite. You use ribat as a catch-all synonym for "medieval Muslim border fort", but that is not so. Ribats are a very specific type of fortification, originally associated with Persia and with the North African coast, combining the role of fort and waystation/caravanserai. Later still it came to mean a fortified monastery. In short, ribats were specific buildings, just as hospitals or taverns are specific types of buildings. The thughur was a fortified frontier zone based on fortress towns with outposts/watchtowers. To the best of my knowledge, the ribat type of building has not been associated with the Arab-Byzantine thughur. Please read up on the subject before adding categories that are not relevant. --Constantine ✍ 20:23, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
- I have been reading on Ribats in Arabic, English, French, German Literature over the past 8 years. I will provide details soon. Please do not jump into conclusions about people or judge them.--Ashashyou (talk) 07:59, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- As regards "jumping to conclusions", you will I hope forgive me if I point out that when you jumble together "ribats" in so diverse places as central Africa, Europe, and Central Asia, and link to Commons categories rather than referencing any source to justify your view, then I cannot help but "jump to the conclusion" that you don't know what you are talking about. I'll gladly stand corrected if that is not the case, and am eagerly awaiting your sources. Constantine ✍ 21:48, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- I have been reading on Ribats in Arabic, English, French, German Literature over the past 8 years. I will provide details soon. Please do not jump into conclusions about people or judge them.--Ashashyou (talk) 07:59, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
