File:PeopleAreKnowledge Tsere tsere Interview2.ogg

Sepedi Transcript[edit]

This interview was simultaneously translated into English from Sepedi: the audio file contains both Sepedi and English conversations, so the transcript is listed in English.

English Transcript[edit]

• Achal : I am doing this interview on behalf of Mohau Monaledi, and it is for Wikipedia and Wikimedia, which is an online encyclopaedia. Can you introduce yourself?

• Bethina: My name is Bethina.

• Achal: Great, thank you. First thing is, this game, Tshere-tshere, how long have you played it, and do you know where else in South Africa it is played?

• Bethina: I do not know where else it is played. But the game, you start playing while you are still young, from around four years and you would stop when you are older. We have not played for a while, we are playing now to remind ourselves.

• Achal: Is the game played by women and men or just young girls?

• Bethina: It is played by girls only, boys play soccer.

• Achal: And when do the young girls usually stop playing this game?

• Bethina: When they are eighteen or nineteen.

• Achal: There were two versions of the game that we saw. One, kicking the stone and the other just jumping through the squares. Are they both tshere-tshere, could she explain why there were two different versions?

• Bethina: They are the same, they indicate winning the game.

• Achal: I am sorry I do not fully understand, the “in” game, that is done after the tshere-tshere game right, and you said the person that wins does that?

• Bethina: It is the same thing. We start by throwing the stone, at the end you step into the blocks, it is the same thing to show who wins.

• Achal: And in a normal game, there are eight squares here, so would you go up and down, once or twice and then play the “in” game or you know, how many times would you do it as in the normal course of the game. Do you understand what I am asking? In terms of how many times you would go up and down in a full game?

• Bethina: We throw and kick the stone, continue until the last blocks.

• Achal: Normally, is it played on grass, or on sand like this, or on a road?

• Bethina: We play anywhere.

• Achal: Normally they use stones to kick, or is there anything else at all?

• Bethina: We use stones.

• Achal: Thank you very much

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