Commons:Valued image candidates/Thirteen Colony type set of Colonial Banknotes

Thirteen Colony type set of Colonial Banknotes

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Images	Connecticut Colony (1775) Williams, Seymour, Payne Reverse Delaware Colony (1776) McKinly, Collins, Manlove Reverse Province of Georgia (1778) Kent, Few, Netherclift, O’Bryen, Wade Reverse Province of Maryland (1770) Clapham, Couden Reverse Province of Massachusetts Bay (1741) Choate, Hale, Brown, Eveleth Reverse Province of New Hampshire (1780) McClure, Robinson, Pearson, Gilman Reverse Province of New Jersey (1776) Smith, Hart, Stevens Reverse Province of New York (1775) Cruger, Waddell Reverse Province of North Carolina (1729) Downing, Lovick, Moseley, Pollock, Swann Reverse Province of Pennsylvania (1771) Hopkinson, Jones, Fisher Reverse Rhode Island (1780) Harris, Bowler Reverse South Carolina (1779) Scott, Smyth, Weston Reverse Colony of Virginia (1773) Randolph, Blair, Nicholas Reverse
Description	A set of Colonial currency with issue dates ranging from 1729 to 1780. Each note bears at least two autographed signatures of community members appointed by legislation to supervise the printing and personally sign the currency. Notes for this set were selected, when possible, for the signers' historical notability and include (but are not limited to): Speakers of a state or colonial legislative assembly (4); delegates to the Continental Congress (4, including its first President); Governors (or in one case State President) (3); signers of the Declaration of Independence (2); delegates to the Constitutional Convention (2); delegates to the Stamp Act Congress (2); Colonial treasurers (2); an inaugural appointee to the Supreme Court of the United States (1). This set is also currently nominated at English Wikipedia FPC
Nominated by	Godot13 (talk) on 2014-05-04 05:45 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued set of images on Wikimedia Commons within the scope: Colonial currency, A set of banknotes from the original 13 colonies.
Used in	Early American currency (all); additionally, one each in John McKinly, Thomas Collins, William Few, John Hart, John Stevens, Jr., John H. Cruger, Edward Moseley, Metcalf Bowler, Peyton Randolph, John Blair, Jr., and Robert Carter Nicholas, Sr.; recently added to New Jersey pound, North Carolina pound, and Virginia pound.
Review (criteria)	Question You wrote some examples of notable signers (such as Speakers of a state or colonial legislative assembly, ...) but you also admitted that some banknotes were not signed by these. Besides this some other banknotes were signed by the named people (for example File:US-Colonial (PA-149)-Pennsylvania-20 Mar 1771 REV.jpg was also signed by a signer of the Declaration of Independence) but they are not included in the set. So what exactly are the criteria of the notability of the signers and what exactly are the criteria for inclusion in the set? The selection looks quite random to me. Jan Kameníček (talk) 12:50, 4 May 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks for the question. The set itself is the fact that one note from each of the original 13 Colonies is represented. When trying to select notes within a given colony, preference was given to those that were signed by more notable/historical people. Not every colony that issued notes actually had a delegate or notable document signer who was appointed to also sign currency. Either that, or an example was not available in the Smithsonian's collection. In these cases either earlier/rarer notes (like Massachusetts) or high grade notes (like South Carolina) were used. Also, I hope you visited the article itself, as additional information is provided for several people who do not have their own wikipedia article. The central purpose of this set is to provide an example from each of the 13 colonies, trying to have notable signers in increase and broaden the scope of the encyclopedic value is the bonus. I hope that answers your question.--Godot13 (talk) 20:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC) :::The image you point out above is the reverse of a note which I have not included for space reasons. All of the reverse side are linked to the front.--Godot13 (talk) 21:02, 4 May 2014 (UTC)  Comment Thanks for the answer. However, I have to say that the selection still looks quite random to me. It is not really clear which signers are more notable than others (and why), and why the representativeness of the banknote depends on the notability of the signer. I miss here some clear, simple and objective criteria. Let's see what do other people think. Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:31, 4 May 2014 (UTC)  CommentThe most notable are those with their own wikipedia articles (they are the linked last names), next, from Early American currency would be the names in the table with footnotes attached which, in some cases, provides historically relevant biographical information. Some notes do not have anyone notable (at least not uncovered without some serious searching), but many of those notes are historical in their own right (e.g., Massachusetts, North Carolina) due to their rarity. Thanks for your interest.--Godot13 (talk) 03:39, 5 May 2014 (UTC)  I withdraw my nomination-Godot13 (talk) 15:51, 1 June 2014 (UTC)