Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives October 31 2019

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Consensual review[edit]

File:2018-08-07_World_Rowing_Junior_Championships_(Opening_Ceremony)_by_Sandro_Halank–144.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Uzbekistan at 2018 World Rowing Junior Championships. By User:Sandro Halank --Andrew J.Kurbiko 05:06, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose Sorry but this composition doesn't work. The sign is cut off, and it's an important part of the subject. Either zoom closer or further back. --Peulle 11:34, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment Previous nomination had a good composition, but shifted focus. I guess it's a fail. --Andrew J.Kurbiko 11:39, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Question @Andrew J.Kurbiko: You say it's a fail, yet send the image to CR anyway - was this the intention?--Peulle 08:13, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Apparently not. Declined.--Peulle 14:08, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 14:08, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Vlexx_LINT_54,_Rüsselsheim_(_1070811).jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Alstom Coradia LINT 54 of Vlexx in Rüsselsheim --MB-one 16:53, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
    Verticals need a slight fixing --Ermell 18:34, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
     Support Good quality. --Chenspec 10:26, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
     Oppose I disagree. Not fixed. Please respect my critics. --Ermell 07:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Ermell. And downscaled to less than 5 MPixels in an easy-to-take situation. --Smial 13:03, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Declined   --Seven Pandas 00:53, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

File:2019_Kościół_Wniebowzięcia_NMP_i_św._Jana_w_Henrykowie_2.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Church of St. Mary in Henryków 2 --Jacek Halicki 07:15, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Promotion
    *  Support Good quality.--Famberhorst 17:35, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
    * Has software been used to play with the perspective? The angles feel totally unnatural to my eye. --Bobulous 17:15, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose for now, as I also see several light dust spots. -- Ikan Kekek 06:44, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: ✓ Done--Jacek Halicki 14:33, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment The towers are very distorted and the shadows are too harsh for me. I would have not nominated this image for QI. But perhaps this is not enough to vote with contra. -- Spurzem 09:36, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support - Acceptable to me. Thanks for fixing the dust spots. -- Ikan Kekek 06:04, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose → Promoted   --Seven Pandas 00:53, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Зимова_казка_(Угочанський_замок).jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Vynohradiv Castle, Carpathian_Ruthenia, near Vynohradiv, Ukraine. By User:K Nick517 --Antanana 08:07, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
     Oppose Sorry, but its just a salad of pixels. --Andrew J.Kurbiko 08:36, 26 October 2019 (UTC)\
  •  Comment Have been looking at this image for the last couple of days and cannot make up my mind about it. As castle ruins go, it is a good illustration. That's not quite the same as rating it as an image. Would like to hear from others. --GRDN711 17:56, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Very noisy, grey snow. --Steindy 08:32, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Looks overprocessed.--Peulle 11:47, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose overprocessed. --Smial 13:11, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Seven Pandas 00:52, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Gatineau_panorama_from_the_Parliament_Hill.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Gatineau panorama from the Parliament Hill, Ottawa. --The Cosmonaut 23:14, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
    Quite nice but could maybe sharpen a bit the right side and straighten the buildings' verticals? They seem to be tilted --Podzemnik 05:35, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
    ✓ Done-sharpened and straigtened. --The Cosmonaut 19:27, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
     Oppose Sorry, too noisy for me --Podzemnik 04:39, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
    I think noise level is acceptable for QI. --The Cosmonaut 01:45, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Additionally not sharp enough, especially right side. --EV Raudtee 11:59, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Declined   --Seven Pandas 00:51, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

File:FotD_059_Aufgeschnittener_Mengerschwamm_20191021.png[edit]

  • Nomination A cut Menger sponge. --PantheraLeo1359531 17:07, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Promotion
     Oppose Insufficient quality. --Streetdeck 13:39, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
     Support I don't have a knowledge to evaluate the pic but nearly 59 megapixels don't sound like it's the quality what's lacking --Podzemnik 04:39, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support - Looks like excellent quality to me. I don't understand the opposition. Did you mean to oppose a different photo? -- Ikan Kekek 05:41, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Fractal engines produce images that are resolution independent. Unlike cameras that have resolution, bit depth and file size limits by design, a computer with a good graphics processor can make fractals to any size you want. The image resolution will be the same; the only difference is the size of the file or the intended dimensions of the print to be made from the file (how big is enough?). It would be helpful if Commons would provide more guidance on uploading fractals. I believe this photographer is sincere in uploading what he believes to be the best format and size for his fractals image uploads. I disagree with his solution and believe this image is badly over-sampled. At 8000 x 7800 pixels x a 32-bit depth and saved in PNG format without compression becomes a 63.86 MB file size. Beyond a much smaller file size, you would see no difference in quality if the image was 3000 pixels long side and, given the limited range of colors in this image, 8-bit depth would probably be sufficient. --GRDN711 20:44, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Info Of course the fractal resolution (and file size) is a point. When creating that image, I thought about quality and resolution and combined 8K resolution with high quality raymarching, so that shadowed areas are quite good visible and 8K for UHD-2 monitors and TVs. Higher resolution are only useful when zooming in, which is here not really needed. There is already some compression, the original file had about 215 MiB :). --PantheraLeo1359531 (talk) 13:41, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support I do not know if there are better oversampling/antialiasing solutions to make the small details look less like noise, but good enough for me.--Tobias ToMar Maier 09:00, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Promoted   --Seven Pandas 00:51, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Quebrada_de_las_Conchas_07.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Quebrada de las Conchas, Argentina --Bgag 02:47, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 03:50, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Sorry, I disagree. Unsharp, unnatural colours. Please discuss --Llez 04:55, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Weak  Support. Sharpness only acceptable, and the colours probably slightly oversaturated, but I don't know the real lighting situation, and it's good enough to be printed to A4 and larger. --Smial 07:57, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Looks overprocessed to me. And the colours don't seem entirely natural.--Peulle 08:26, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Would look acceptable to me, but it feels like it needs to be rotated two or three degrees clockwise.--Bobulous (talk) 10:56, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment I have uploaded a new version. --Bgag 13:29, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. --Steindy 14:20, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Beautiful and good -- Spurzem 14:53, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Per Llez, Tournasol7 22:36, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Per Liez --Ermell 19:23, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Oversaturated, tilted. Kallerna 19:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Who was there to know the natural colours? Great view --Moroder 22:05, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Too soft. --Milseburg 12:52, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Insufficient sharpness. --EV Raudtee 13:57, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 5 support (excluding the nominator), 7 oppose → Declined   --Seven Pandas 00:49, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Говерла,_Петрос_і_Свидовецький_масив_в_одному_кадрі.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Carpathian Biosphere Reserve by Misha Reme --Andrew J.Kurbiko 15:23, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. --Poco a poco 15:48, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
    Agree that it does indeed need a perspective correction,  Oppose until that is fixed Poco a poco 07:53, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. Not a QI for me. CAs at the horizon + distorted and unsharp towards the left and right side. The trees are strongly leaning out there.. --Milseburg 17:22, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Beautiful picture, and I see absolutely no sign of chromatic aberration anywhere in the image. (Milseburg, are you talking about the orange flaring along the mountain edge caused by the sunset? I don't find that unpleasant at all.) The periphery is softer but looks fine at full screen size, and the focal point (the snow trail and the habitation) are sharp. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobulous (talk • contribs) 2019-10-20 11:05 (UTC)
I'm wondering, that the extreme distortion doesn't matter you. --Milseburg (talk) 17:39, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality.--Steindy 14:21, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Question - Before I vote, I want to hear from the people supporting this photo: If you ever support perspective correction in any situation, why is it OK with you that all the trees are leaning drastically right on the right side and drastically left on the left side? Poco a poco, Bobulous, Steindy? -- Ikan Kekek 04:46, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Milseburg.--Peulle 06:28, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Milseburg.--Ermell 19:26, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose --Kallerna 19:29, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support Photography itself is a distortion, so what? I love it --Moroder 22:02, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 Question Moroder, do you ever support perspective correction? If so, why not in this case? I want to understand how people are thinking about this. Same question for Poco a poco, Bobulous, Steindy and anyone else who wants to weigh in. Ikan Kekek 04:31, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 Comment @Ikan Kekek: I understand that perspective control is requested for architectural images, including lampposts. Unfortunately results are not always good. For landscapes I'd accept free composition--Moroder 06:01, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Moroder. Anyone else want to express a view on this? I'd like to learn something. -- Ikan Kekek 08:14, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 Comment @Ikan Kekek: I can understand you and you are in principle right with your opinion. But I believe that such strict standards apply to architectural photography, but not to landscape photographs. There are also photos that live on the mood and the design. I set this higher and I just like this photo, so I see no reason to correct my vote. --Steindy 14:56, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
shifted version
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 Comment - I don't have a firm opinion; I'm just trying my best to understand. My brother has done some professional photography and thinks the kind of perspective correction people do here is absurd and unprofessional and doesn't represent the way we actually see, so I've gotten more than one view of this and haven't really decided anything beyond what strikes me as good or bad as a viewer. -- Ikan Kekek 05:50, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
 Comment @Ikan Kekek: I despise perspective "correction" in post (using software) and I also think that there is far too strong a fashion here for verticals to be perfectly parallel. I even feel that way when we're talking about architectural photos. Here in a discussion about a nature landscape it just sounds absurd to me that people are demanding that trees on the fringe of the image be stretched into verticals. This image is beautiful, shows the landscape clearly and crisply, and has excellent lighting. To reject it because of slightly leaning trees and a very fine edge of sun bleed on the mountain edge would seem very wrong to me. --Bobulous 14:48, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
@Bobulous: And what is your vote? --Steindy 19:49, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
@Steindy: My vote is already cast (though I forgot to add the signature, so it's less easy to spot my supporting comment above).--Bobulous 12:49, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment - I would really like to see what this photo would look like with perspective correction. I appreciate the answers to my question and I'll think about them but do find this view a little strange and won't vote on the photo. -- Ikan Kekek 06:42, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment @Ikan Kekek: I have uploded you the shifted version. The image is narrower and the beautiful impression of the distance is lost. In addition, the beautiful diagonals that characterize the photo, not so impressive. I do not like it as much as the original. --Steindy (talk) 17:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment - I agree with you. Thank you for uploading that. -- Ikan Kekek 06:07, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support - Based on this comparison, I feel impelled to support. -- Ikan Kekek 06:08, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment I don´t understand the discussion. Obviously, the wrong recording technique was chosen from the outset for this motif. The question of whether subsequent corrections make sense does not arise at all. --Milseburg 12:18, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 5 oppose → Declined   --Seven Pandas 00:48, 31 October 2019 (UTC)