Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives December 02 2021

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Consensual review[edit]

File:Chinche_de_escudo_verde_(Palomena_prasina),_Dießen_am_Ammersee,_Alemania,_2020-07-05,_DD_44-98_FS.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Green shield bug (Palomena prasina), Dießen am Ammersee, Germany --Poco a poco 14:11, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose Not the best framing, showing a large unfocused part in the foregound; light too harsh for the subject. -- Alvesgaspar 20:01, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Sorry, no, this is not a contest were you choose the image you like most and decline all others, this meets the QI criteria IMHO --Poco a poco 09:19, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Diego, this series of macro shots seems to be well below the resolving power of the MP-E 65mm lens. I see a couple of potential solutions, hopefully you will find them helpful:
- Judging by the shutter speeds, I assume you're using a constant lighting source. I initially tried the same thing for this image, and found that even placing the focus rail on a concrete slab and using the electronic shutter was not stable enough. Switching to a couple of speedlights (at low power and with plenty of diffusion to avoid harsh highlights) substantially improved sharpness
- The maximum resolving power of the MP-E 65mm seems to peak at around f4 (on a 6D, might be lower on a 5DS due to the higher pixel density [1]). At higher magnifications I wouldn't go beyond that, as the Effective Aperture will quickly surpass the camera's Diffraction Limited Aperture (Effective Aperture is roughly equivalent to Aperture x (1 + Magnification), this calculator gives a more precise estimate).
-- Julesvernex2 (talk) 17:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your elaborated comment, Julesvernex2. I understand that you talk about speedlights placed on the ground below the subject and in a white box and no flash over the rail (this was problematic in my case), something like this setup. I believe you that this would be an improvement but first I saved money for a motorized rail (to be honest higher priority had lighting for my underwater shots, but after that) to reduce the effort of FS shots and ensure a constant gap between the shots and also reduce errors from slight movements of the camera when moving it over the rail. I just got one such slider now, let's see if there is a clar improvement, next step is indeed the speedlights. Regaring aperture and other topics I'll contact you directly. Poco a poco 22:43, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Yup, the motorised rail will make a big difference! For diffusion, I like this sort of cylindrical setup, as it i) ensures an even distance between the light source and the subject, reducing blown highlights; ii) allows you to put additional stuff on top (e.g. extra diffusion layers, black strips to create raking light) --Julesvernex2 23:25, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Declined   --Augustgeyler 10:44, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

File:02_755_Bf_Le_Hbf_(Westseite),_ET1458.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Leipzig main station (west side), with tram ET 1458 in 1987. (By User:Falk2) --Augustgeyler 15:46, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose too much noise --Sandro Halank 21:48, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment When judging this with the achievable quality of 1987 in the GDR, this can be classified as a technical well done image. Please discuss! --Augustgeyler 11:11, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Declined   --Augustgeyler 11:09, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

File:Villa_und_Mehrfamilienhäuser_am_Leipziger_Güterring.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Multiple dwellings of Karl-Härting-Straße with railway line in Leipzig. --Augustgeyler 22:56, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose Bad composition and sure not a QI. The fuzzy undergrowth in foreground is extremely annoying. --Steindy 00:10, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment I do not agree. And thank you for marking the dust spot, I just ✓ removed it. --Augustgeyler 01:03, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose is more out of focus than in focus --Commonists 19:47, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Declined   --Augustgeyler 01:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Salvator_church_in_Nova_Gorica_05.jpg[edit]

File:Salvator church in Nova Gorica 05.jpg

  • Nomination Bell tower of the Salvator church in Nova Gorica, Goriška, Slovenia. --Tournasol7 06:02, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  SupportGood quality --Llez 06:41, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree: bluish tones, poor lighting. -- Alvesgaspar 08:35, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Not unusual for this time of day --Ermell 10:00, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality considering the clouds and light coditions--Michielverbeek 19:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. --Steindy 21:36, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Augustgeyler 01:56, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Two_zebra_are_playing_together,_ngorongoro.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Two zebra are playing together, ngorongoro(by Husseingallery) --Adoscam 10:21, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Some motion blur, but good for QI given the unusual moment captured. --Tagooty 10:31, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose they are not playing --Charlesjsharp 14:50, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Info Promotion was changed to Review. Moving to CR --Tagooty 04:40, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Good Motiv, but unfortunately not sharp enough. --Steindy 21:40, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Steidy. --C messier 21:59, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose → Declined   --Augustgeyler 01:58, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Michelin_at_IAA_2021_1X7A0161.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Michelin at IAA Mobility 2021.--Alexander-93 09:25, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support It's very sharp, ok ! --Sebring12Hrs 09:30, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Weak oppose The blown out white parts are not QI in my point of view. --Augustgeyler 23:36, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality to me. -- Ikan Kekek 07:37, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Augustgeyler 10:40, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

File:00_578_LO-Skl,_Paunsdorf.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination "LO" lorry with wheel flanges used as construction vehicle at the construction side of the new tram line from Paunsdorf Straßenbahnhof to Paunsdorf Nord in October 1986. It is standing at the curve between the tram depot in Leipzig Paunsdorf and the newly build station Straßenbahnhof Paunsdorf. (By User:Falk2) --Augustgeyler 03:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose Are you serious about this nom? Just noise --Poco a poco 09:16, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Yes I am. This image was taken on slide film in 1987. That noise is typical for that photo technique. The scan is well done. So I'd like to ask all reviewers taking this into account. --Augustgeyler 10:36, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Too noisy --Michielverbeek 08:08, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Analog photos can show a significantly better quality, too. --Stepro 16:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Stepro --Sandro Halank 21:49, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose cool image but it does definately not meet the requirements of QI. Maybe you should initiate a VI cand.? --Hillopo2018 08:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Also in 1987 there were films with which one could take sharp photos. Never a QI! --Steindy 21:48, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 6 oppose → Declined   --C messier 21:26, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

File:03_615_LO-Skl,_Stirnfront.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination "LO" lorry with wheel flanges used as construction vehicle when constructing the new tram line to Paunsdorf Nord between the stops Riesaer Straße and Permoserstraße in October 1986. (By User:Falk2) --Augustgeyler 03:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose not sharp enough --Sandro Halank 18:12, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Please discuss this. The focus is sitting directly at the front of the car. --Augustgeyler 00:54, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Analog photos can show a significantly better quality, too. --Stepro 16:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Yes, that's true. Good point. --Augustgeyler 20:08, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose cool image but it does definately not meet the requirements of QI. Maybe you should initiate a VI cand.? --Hillopo2018 08:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Thank you. That's an idea! --Augustgeyler 12:30, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Also in 1986 there were films with which one could take sharp photos. Never a QI! I don't know why something like this is even brought up for discussion. --Steindy 21:54, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Augustgeyler 02:00, 2 December 2021 (UTC)result

File:00_582_»Am_Vorwerk«,_ET_2167.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Tatra T4 in shuttle operation at the newly build tram line from "Straßenbahnhof Paunsdorf" to "Am Vorwerk" on 24th of December 1987. (By User:Falk2) --Augustgeyler 03:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Oppose Are you serious about this nom? Just noise --Poco a poco 09:16, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Yes I am. This image was taken on slide film in 1987. That noise is typical for that photo technique. The scan is well done. So I'd like to ask all reviewers taking this into account. --Augustgeyler 10:36, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose You can make post-proctssing after scanning: crop pillar, fix gometric destortion, reduce noise. Mike1979 Russia 06:56, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Yes one can do so. But "noise" was called "grain" and had ben a widely excepted part of photography in those days. --Augustgeyler 10:33, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Sure, historical photos are valuable and welcome; but this doesn't have to mean good quality. --A.Savin 14:08, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Agreed. But does that conversely mean, images taken in 1980 have to be as noiseless, as sharp and have to have a high resolution as we expect it today? That would mean, only middle format or full format shots from very professionals could compete with nowadays DSLR taken shots from everybody. This can't be a good idea for QI here in Commons. So if I look for quality images of a given subject from 1980, I expect to find those exemplars which would have been called a QI in 1980. --Augustgeyler 20:15, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose At best, this is a historical document but never a QI. Not only does the heavy picture noise speak against this, but also the mast on the left. --Steindy 22:07, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Augustgeyler 02:01, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Αγία_Βαρβάρα_Ηρακλείου_1945.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination View of Agia Varvara, Crete. --C messier 17:03, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Oppose Sorry, I think it is too soft. --Augustgeyler 14:40, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment I would like more opinions, please. --C messier 20:44, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Not that soft. I mean, sure, if I look at it at full size on my 23.5-inch monitor, but not on my 13-inch. -- Ikan Kekek 12:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support OK for me. --A.Savin 14:03, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Good enough for QI. --Steindy 22:10, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Augustgeyler 02:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Αϊτάνια_1941.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Airview of Aitania, Crete. --C messier 17:03, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Oppose Sorry, I think it is too soft. --Augustgeyler 14:40, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment I would like more opinions, please. --C messier 20:44, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Straightforwardly good quality to me. -- Ikan Kekek 12:11, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support per Ikan. --A.Savin 14:05, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Good enough for QI. --Steindy 22:11, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Augustgeyler 02:04, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Havelock_Island,_Sandy_lagoon,_Andaman_Islands.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Bleached trunks of fallen trees on the beach, Havelock (Swaraj) Island, Andaman and Nicobar Islands. --Argenberg 12:54, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Oppose Good composition, but I find the detail and sharpness not up to current standards. --Tagooty 13:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support CA should be removed but not so bad. --Ermell 21:32, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality to me. -- Ikan Kekek 07:17, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment To me this image looked fine CA-wise. There were only slightest hints of CAs in some of the branches to the left. Anyway per the suggestions the image has been reprocessed to remove fringing and provide more fine details via delicate unsharp mask. --Argenberg 11:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
     Comment There is signifiant CA along the upper branch on the right. The new version does not appear to have improved the CA on left or right. --Tagooty 01:59, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Fine to me. No significant CA-promblems visible. --Milseburg 15:04, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Beautiful motif in good quality. --Steindy 22:22, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Augustgeyler 02:05, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Aerial_image_of_the_Nördlingen_airfield.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination: Aerial image of the Nördlingen airfield, Germany --Carsten Steger 10:13, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Review
  •  Support Good quality.--Horst J. Meuter 11:31, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The colours in the dark parts are shifted. Highlights at the roofs are blowen. Additionally the level of detail is low, perhaps too low. --Augustgeyler 23:24, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Agree per Augustgeyler. --GRDN711 16:34, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support QI for me. --Ermell 22:11, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Some whites blown, WB off towards the blues -- Alvesgaspar 11:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
  •  Info Your vote can't be counted after a discussion is closed. Peulle correctly closed it at 11:26 but your vote was made at 11:53. --Augustgeyler 12:28, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Inconclusive result after 8 consensual review days   --Peulle 11:26, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Aerial_image_of_the_Donaueschingen-Villingen_airfield.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Aerial image of the Donaueschingen-Villingen airfield, Germany --Carsten Steger 18:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •  Support Good quality. --Steindy 19:22, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Level of detail is too low and shadows (for example on the dark parts of the trees in the upper left corner) are washed out. Greenery has very view structure. --Augustgeyler 23:57, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I agree, part of the problem is probably caused by overexposed whites. Alvesgaspar 22:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support This one is good enough IMO. --Palauenc05 17:52, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support good enough --Sandro Halank 22:31, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support --Commonists 19:48, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Promoted   --C messier 21:25, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Iglesia_matriz,_Alcázar_del_Sal,_Portugal,_2021-09-12,_DD_66.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Mother church, Alcácer do Sal, Portugal --Poco a poco 23:04, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. --Tournasol7 05:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose I disagree. Dull lighting; very tightly cropped and may be underexposed. --GRDN711 07:29, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
  • ✓ New version --Poco a poco 13:07, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Good quality. --Sebring12Hrs 12:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support --Commonists 13:27, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Weak oppose Light improved. But the perspective distortion here is a bit to extreme to show this object as naturally as I'd expect it to be. --Augustgeyler 09:56, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Agree with the opposers. Perspective is unnatural, light and color are dull, framing is too tight. -- Alvesgaspar 21:55, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support ok for me.--Ermell 22:29, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Alvesgaspar --Sandro Halank 22:27, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose a perspective correction victim. --Hillopo2018 09:01, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 5 oppose → Declined   --August Geyler (talk) 10:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

File:Tiburón_azul_(Prionace_glauca),_canal_Fayal-Pico,_islas_Azores,_Portugal,_2020-07-27,_DD_34.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Blue shark (Prionace glauca), Faial-Pico Channel, Azores Islands, Portugal. --Poco a poco 13:43, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. --Steindy 19:59, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Unsharp, noisy and undetailed -- Alvesgaspar 22:13, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The head and front fins are in good focus, but the tail is blurry. --Tagooty 03:50, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Taking into account the photographic conditions, the picture is okay. --XRay 06:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support Per Xray --Commonists 20:40, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Support per the other supporters --Kritzolina 10:59, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose unsharp, poor POV. --Kallerna 16:34, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Weak oppose The caudal fin is very present here but fast moving. So it can not be that sharp. That is why I am with Kallerna. The point of view is not the best, presenting the most unsharp parts of that animal at the most present parts of the image. --Augustgeyler 14:43, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Weak oppose very sorry, but per Augustgeyler --Sandro Halank 22:24, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Sure, not easy to create but this image is too unsharp and partly extremely noisy. --Hillopo2018 09:02, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 6 oppose → Declined   --Augustgeyler 10:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)