Commons:Photography critiques/September 2015

How to crop this?

uncropped

Hello Folks!

I'm having difficulties with choosing a crop for this one. I think the uncropped version on the right might be a bit too wide, but if I go tighter I run into problems with the windsock and the runway marker on the left: If I crop them out completely, the whole thing gets pretty tight, maybe too tight; but if I go wider I'll end up with half a windsock. Any ideas?

Comments on other aspects are very much welcome as well: What's good and (more importantly) what's bad? I've already got some thoughts of my own, but I'll keep them to myself for now in order not to influence your opinion. Cheers, --El Grafo (talk) 08:11, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

• I added a note to the image page. Just my initial impression. I didn't think there was any one crop that stands out though, plenty of different framing options that are ok. Diliff (talk) 09:16, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
  • @Diliff: thanks, I'll give that a try later. I agree that going for a wide aspect ratio makes sense here. I usually don't do much cloning, so I hadn't thought about that option – might be worth a try! --El Grafo (talk) 10:06, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
    • No problem, I don't usually clone either if I can help it, but it's fairly irrelevant to the composition this time and it wouldn't be an issue to remove IMO. Diliff (talk) 11:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
  • I mostly agree with Diliff's choice, although I would probably move the rectangle slightly further to the right to give more space "to fly into" and maybe just crop out the Dachreiter (don't know the English term) that way. — Julian H.^✈ 11:27, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
    • Thanks to you as well, Julian. I decided to just bite the bullet and cut through the runway marker. I would've cloned it out if I were going for FP, but I think it's not sharp enough to stand a chance there and for typical Wikipedia use it might even be better to leave it in. --El Grafo (talk) 09:19, 16 September 2015 (UTC) Anekdote am Rande: Das ist überhaupt kein Dachreiter. Die kommerziell erhältlichen Dinger sind uns immer kaputt gegangen, was auf Dauer recht teuer wurde. Stattdessen haben wir Regentonnen aus dem Baumarkt halbiert und rot-weiß angestrichen – die geben nach wenn mal ein Windenseil drauf fällt und die zuständige Luftaufsichtsbehörde fand das auch total OK. Muss man halt alle 2 Jahre mal neu anpinseln …
      • Alles klar, wieder was gelernt. :) — Julian H.^✈ 09:22, 16 September 2015 (UTC)