Commons:Freedom of Panorama 2015/uk
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Positions[edit]
UKIP (EFDD)[edit]
- UKIP
- "Another case of breath-taking idiocy ... It will destroy an explicit British freedom guaranteed in our copyright legislation for over 100 years ... This absurd, mercenary proposal takes the EU's regulatory impulse to new heights ... an appalling impingement on basic artistic and cultural liberties." — EU Threatens Freedom to Photograph, 22 June 2015
- Stuart Agnew MEP
- Agnew's office tell me that UKIP are going to oppose the measure since they oppose more or less all new EU regulations on principle. -- by email, via en-wiki, 29 June 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Tim Aker MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Jonathon Arnott MEP
- Angel of the North victim of EU madness blogpost, unknown date in June 2015. Includes verbatim the text about "unintended consequences" also provided by Paul Nuttall to the Wirral Globe.
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Gerard Batten MEP
- "As so often before when the European Union passes its laws it ignores the law of unintended consequences. This attempt to restrict the Freedom of Panorama, by allies of the Lib-Dems in Brussels, strikes at the root of our liberties." — Express article, 23 June 2015
- Response to constituent: "Thank you for writing to me about this, I am aware of it, and indeed made a press statement last week. This is a particularly idiotic example of proposed EU legislation. If and when it comes before the Parliament I, and my UKIP colleagues, will vote against." — via diff, 30 June 2015
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Louise Bours MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- James Carver MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- David Coburn MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Jane Collins MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- William [Earl of] Dartmouth MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Bill Etheridge MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Nigel Farage MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Ray Finch MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Nathan Gill MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Roger Helmer MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Mike Hookem MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Diane James MEP
- "Thank you for your email and concerns on this subject. Jonathon Arnott gave a statement the other day which may help you understand our stance on this" — by email to Owen Blacker; links added by Owen.
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Paul Nuttall MEP
- "Moves in the European Parliament which could mean iconic views such as Gormley’s ‘Iron Men’ could no longer be photographed without permission have been slated by local MEP Paul Nuttall." — Press Release: Freedom of Panorama Chaos, 24 June 2015
- "This would end up being another example of unintended consequences which frequently happens when the EU passes laws. It is idiotic and would mean that visitors would not be able to snap views of the Iron Men and other famous works and use them commercially if they so wanted. This attempt to restrict the Freedom of Panorama strikes at the root of our liberties. It will destroy an explicit British freedom guaranteed in our copyright legislation for more than 100 years. Art and photography are valuable because of their intrinsic freedom. Freedom is constantly undermined by the European Union as we have seen time and time again." — Wirral Globe article, 24 June 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Patrick O'Flynn MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Margot Parker MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Julia Reid MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Jill Seymour MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Steven Woolfe MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
Labour (S&D)[edit]
- David Blunkett, ex-Home Secretary
- "I'm really sorry for this, but I agree with this guy from UKIP. I just think that this is a practical nonsense, and it discredits real argument about the very real issues around copyright." — Daily Politics (video, at 5:00), BBC2, 23 June 2015
- Lucy Anderson MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Paul Brannen MEP
- More extensive version of Moraes's statement from Labour for the North-East: "Freedom for Commercial Photographers: ... Labour MEPs do not support the whole of this amendment on Freedom of Panorama, and are tabling further amendments... Labour are against this proposal and will put forward changes which would see it removed from the final report... It has been suggest that the EU has proposed this when in fact it is an amendment to a non-binding report of the Parliament." — Labour for the North-East statement, 25 June 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Richard Corbett MEP
- "... It does not relate to holiday snaps. It’s about copyright over commercial images. And, needless to say, it’s not an EU law, nor even a proposal for one. Parliament hasn’t even voted. It’s just one idea submitted as part of a general, non-legislative discussion about copyright, which is a million miles from becoming law even if MEPs wanted it to." — Absurd EU photography madness is a damp squib, 26 June 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Seb Dance MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Anneliese Dodds MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Neena Gill MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Theresa Griffin MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Mary Honeyball MEP (JURI shadow-rapporteur)
Supports the committee text: "There's a principle at stake here: if money is made out of your work, then you deserve recognition for that... This does happen in other areas of creative endeavour. If you do something on YouTube you have to make sure that everything you use, all the music clips and everything else you may use, is actually cleared by the people who produced it in the first place. So this is not a new idea, and it is only reasonable that artists who have created these works and have it as their living, and these works are going to be used for commercial purposes, that at least the artists' permissions should be sought."— Daily Politics (video, at 1:05 & 3:45), BBC2, 23 June 2015- According to Dimitar Dimitrov, "Our man in Brussels", who was speaking to Catherine Stihler's office (rapporteur for IMCO on this report and EPLP Whip): "Mary has changed her position on this" (from email off-wiki, 26 June 2015)
- "The amendment made was to an own-initiative report that is simply an examination by an MEP of the state of play in the implementation of the 2001 Information Society Directive. Therefore the current document has no legal effect, but Ms. Honeyball fully understands your concerns. The European Parliamentary Labour Party will vote against any amendment which negatively affects the current UK provisions on Freedom of Panorama." — key paragraph from a longer reply to constituent, 2 July 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Richard Howitt MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Afzal Khan MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Jude Kirton-Darling MEP
- More extensive version of Moraes's statement from Labour for the North-East: "Freedom for Commercial Photographers: ... Labour MEPs do not support the whole of this amendment on Freedom of Panorama, and are tabling further amendments... Labour are against this proposal and will put forward changes which would see it removed from the final report... It has been suggest that the EU has proposed this when in fact it is an amendment to a non-binding report of the Parliament." — Labour for the North-East statement, 25 June 2015
- "... indeed that's why we said amendment is bad proposal & why we're working to make sure it's rejected" — Twitter, 25 June 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- David Martin MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Linda McAvan MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Clare Moody MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Claude Moraes MEP
- "Labour MEPs do not support the part of this report dealing with Freedom of Panorama, and are tabling further amendments. There are a lot of good policies in this report, and we believe in the principle of creators being rewarded for their work, however some measures are impractical. We will work to make sure photographers' concerns are reflected in the final report that will be put to MEPs on July 9." — by email, via diff, 24 June 2015
- Not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Siôn Simon MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Catherine Stihler MEP (IMCO rapporteur and EPLP Whip)
- In an email from Dimitar Dimitrov: "Her assistant told me that what she knows for now is that currently all groups are against this amendment, including ALDE who tabled it. S&D is resolute to either table an amendment or split the vote, she doesn't exactly know which procedure will be taken, but she was very positive this part of the text will be removed." — 26 June 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Derek Vaughan MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Julie Ward MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Glenis Willmott MEP
- "Labour MEPs don't support #FoP section in report.Tabling further amendments to ensure photographers' concerns are reflected" — Twitter, 24 June 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
Conservative (ECR)[edit]
- Richard Ashworth MEP
- "However, one outstanding issue remains regarding the Freedom of Panorama, which the UK Conservatives (and the wider European Conservatives and Reformists Group) will seek to delete in the plenary vote. ... However, since ... there are different views in Member States on this issue, the Group will request deletion of any reference to Freedom of Panorama as an EU solution to this issue is not appropriate and the matter can be discussed in more detail after further debate." — from a longer reply to constituent Owen Blacker, 1 July 2015.
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Amjad Bashir MEP (elected as UKIP)
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- David Campbell Bannerman MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Dan Dalton MEP
- "Yes I will be voting to support freedom of panorama - it is ridiculous that it is under threat #saveFoP" (Twitter, 23 June 2015)
- Speech in IMCO discussion of Commission Communication "A Digital Single Market Strategy for Europe", 23 June (video, at 3:31, near the very end)
- Signed Marietje Schaake's pro-FoP amendment AM3
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Nirj Deva MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Ian Duncan MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Vicky Ford MEP
- Signed Marietje Schaake's pro-FoP amendment AM3
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Jacqueline Foster MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Ashley Fox MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Julie Girling MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Daniel Hannan MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Syed Kamall MEP
- "I have been in touch with my colleague who is following this dossier for my political group. He has sent me the following in response:
- "...the ECR does not think an EU solution or recommendation is appropriate and will therefore request deletion of paragraph 46. This will ensure there is no mention of the issue of Freedom of Panorama in this non-legislative report." — via email to Diliff
- Not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- "I have been in touch with my colleague who is following this dossier for my political group. He has sent me the following in response:
- Saj Karim MEP (Coordinated EPCP position)
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Timothy Kirkhope MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Andrew Lewer MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Emma McClarkin MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Anthea McIntyre MEP
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Kay Swinburne MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Charles Tannock MEP
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Geoffrey Van Orden MEP
- tells me that they (the European Conservatives and Reformists group, to which the UK Conservative Party belongs) will seek removal of any reference to Freedom of Panorama. He believes that there will be enough support for this deletion to succeed. — via email, reported on en-wiki, 29 June 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
Other[edit]
- Jean Lambert MEP (Greens (E&W), G/EFA)
- "Thank you for your email. Greens support the principle of ‘freedom of panorama’ and believe the law should uphold the right of photographers to reproduce pictures of public spaces. ... My Green colleagues and I oppose [Cavada's] amendment and will vote against it on 9th July." — From a reply to a constituent, by email, 6 July 2015.
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Molly Scott Cato MEP (Greens (E&W), G/EFA)
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Keith Taylor MEP (Greens (E&W), G/EFA)
- "I won't be voting to limit Freedom of Panorama." — Twitter, 25 June 2015
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Ian Hudghton MEP (SNP, G/EFA)
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Alyn Smith MEP (SNP, G/EFA)
- Signed Marietje Schaake's pro-FoP amendment AM3
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Diane Dodds MEP (DUP, Non-Inscrits)
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Catherine Bearder MEP (Lib Dem, ALDE)
- "While I will be voting against the current amended proposal, I am not against having harmonised copyright laws across the EU. Sensible harmonisation could protect FOP in every EU country. In the UK we already have an existing law that has a strong provision for FOP. I would like to see the EU extending FOP across Europe, not restricting it.". She's missed the point about NC, though. There's a little more on her blog
- Her reply to Owen Blacker as a constituent (specifically pointing out that she'd missed the point about NC) was a repeat of her blogpost, disappointingly. — 1 July 2015
- Her reply to Christopher Cooper as a constituent attempted to provide re-assurance by stating she did not support the current proposal and that she would like to see the UK standard of FOP across Europe, though she once again seemed to miss the point about NC. — 8 July 2015
- Signed Marietje Schaake's pro-FoP amendment AM3
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Jill Evans MEP (Plaid Cymru, G/EFA)
- Signed Marietje Schaake's pro-FoP amendment AM3
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Martina Anderson MEP (Sinn Féin, GUE-NGL)
- Voted to delete the Cavada-amended §46
- Jim Nicholson MEP (UUP, ECR)
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
- Janice Atkinson MEP (ex-UKIP, ENF)
- Unknown; not listed in the roll-call vote on deleting the Cavada-amended §46
Organisations[edit]
- Association of Photographers
- Charles Swan, a director of the Association of Photographers and an intellectual property lawyer, described the proposal as “absurd” and “a complete invasion of our freedom of expression”. He said: “Why on earth shouldn’t you take pictures of the landscape or skyline and do what you want with them? It would be fairly disastrous and most of the British public, not just photographers, would think this was pretty horrific. The only people it would be good news for might be architects.” — The Times, [1], 24 June 2015
- Royal Institute of British Architects (RIBA)
- The Royal Institute of British Architects opposes the law change. A spokesman said: "We are concerned that the well-intentioned proposals to ensure that architects are paid for the use of images of their work by commercial publishers and broadcasters would instead have negative implications, and represent a potentially damaging restriction of the debate about architecture and public space." -- The Times, [2], 24 June 2015
- Design and Artists Copyright Society (DACS)
- Position requested. No response yet. Jheald (talk) 23:14, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- Issued a statement on 10 July 2015, the day after the vote in the EP:
- "... We are acutely aware that photographers were especially concerned about the suggested changes to the law that would interfere with the exception allowing photography of sculptures, buildings and permanent monuments in public spaces.
- As DACS operates under UK copyright law we already recognise the disputed exception, and currently do not support a reopening of the Information Society Directive, where the exception originates from." Jheald (talk) 18:22, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
- Authors' Licensing and Collecting Society (ALCS)
- They did talk quite closely with Mary Honeyball, but this wasn't something they specifically lobbied on -- their key concern was the drafting of the clause on the Education exemption. This isn't something the org has pushed for, nor ever taken a position on. They've never heard it discussed in meetings of Europe-wide collective rights management organisations either. It's something that might affect a few of their members who publish their own self-taken photographs, but most authors rely on library photographs from agencies. (telephoned) Jheald (talk) 15:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- National Union of Journalists
- NUJ backs Freedom of Panorama EU campaign, 3 July 2015
- British Photographic Council
- British Photographic Council supports freedom of panorama in the face of potential new legislation
- "It wouldn’t just affect photography of buildings and monuments, but potentially photos of anything that has an “author” – anything having a clear design covered by copyright that appears in public. The owners or designers of the buildings themselves might make a few pounds in fees but our photographic culture would change overnight, and our visual history would become dramatically poorer."
- quotes letter to the Times signed by Jimmy Wales, the British Photographic Council, the British Press Photographers' Association, the British Institute of Professional Photographers, Amateur Photographer, the Bureau of Freelance Photographers, the Chartered Institute of Journalists, the Chartered Institute of Public Relations and the Open Rights Group; plus also the Royal Photographic Society, the Association of Photographers, Editorial Photographers UK, and the National Union of Journalists,
- Wikimedia UK
Press[edit]
- REVEALED: The European Union Plan to Censor Your Pictures of the London Eye, Breitbart, 22 June 2014
- EU 'want' to BAN your photos of the London Eye and the Angel of the North, Daily Express, 23 June 2014 (online only, not in print version?)
- "TAKING photographs of the London Eye and the Angel of the North could soon be banned if the meddling European Union (EU) gets their way, it has been claimed today".
- Freedom to Photograph, The Times (leader), 24 June 2015
- "Next time you take a photo of the London Eye, or the Angel of the North, or any monument, artwork or building in a public place, know this: you are exercising a freedom that is under threat. This is the freedom of panorama — enshrined in British copyright law since 1911, but now in the sights of European Union legislators... The French can unify nonsense all they want, but it is still nonsense. On this, The Times sails with the pirate."
- How ‘absurd’ EU copyright law threatens to censor holiday snaps, The Times, 24 June 2015
- "Lawyers and industry experts have hit out at “absurd” proposals put forward in the EU, under which photographers could be punished for breach of copyright if they publish or sell images of buildings and works of art that are still under copyright."
- Freedom of panorama: EU proposal could mean holiday snaps breach copyright, Daily Telegraph, 24 June 2015 (online)
- "A new EU proposal could see millions of Britons face legal action for uploading photos of famous UK landmarks onto personal websites or even Facebook pages."
- 'Absurd' new EU law could mean you'll face legal action for taking pictures of famous landmarks: Photos could be punished for breach of copyright, Daily Mail, 24 June 2015 (online)
- "...The proposal has been met with criticism from several organisations and industry experts, branding the law 'absurd' and 'appalling'."
- New EU proposal could make sharing photographs of copyrighted landmarks illegal, The Independent, 24 June 2015
- Proposed copyright bill could outlaw holiday snaps of EU landmarks, RT News, 24 June
Local press[edit]
- Taking photos of Superlambananas could be banned under European Union law change, Wirral Globe, 24 June
- EU proposal that could ban snaps of the North artworks branded 'idiotic', Evening Chronicle, 27 June
- UKIP vs Labour. Labour accuse UKIP of scaremongering, but affirm that "this proposal is a bad proposal and as MEPs we’re working to make sure it’s rejected; that’s democracy in action."
Specialist press[edit]
- Photography of public buildings under threat after European rule change, MEP warns, Amateur Photographer, 23 June 2015
- Campaign launched against ‘barking’ European plan to censor photos of buildings, Amateur Photographer, 24 June 2015
- "'Amateur Photographer' (AP) is at the forefront of a campaign against controversial European plans to restrict photography of public buildings which threaten to censor millions of amateur and professional photos."
- 30,000 back petition against ‘barking’ European copyright plan, as MEP behind proposal speaks out, Amateur Photographer, 26 June 2015
Media critiques[edit]
- Andrew Orlowski, Pirate MEP pranks Telegraph with holiday snap scaremongering, The Register, 25 June 2015
- Andrew Orlowski, Wikipedia jumps aboard the bogus 'freedom of panorama' bandwagon, The Register, 2 July 2015
- European Commission, Europe is not banning tourist photos of the London Eye, 25 June 2015
- The EU, the Gherkin and ‘freedom of panorama’, Full Fact, 29 June 2015
Open letters[edit]
- Photo bombshell, The Times, 27 June 2015
Blogs etc[edit]
- UK at risk of losing Freedom of Panorama, 11 June 2015, Wikimedia UK Blog
- Three weeks to save Freedom of Panorama in Europe, Signpost, 19 June 2015
- Michael Zhang, Alert: Freedom of Panorama under Threat in Europe, Petapixel, 20 June 2015. Also on Facebook
- Owen Blacker on Medium, Freedom of Panorama is under attack, 21 June 2015
- picked up by Boing Boing
- Updated and cross-posted to Maptia: Street photography is under threat in Europe, 28 June 2015.
- New update posted to Medium: Street photography in Europe and Freedom of Panorama: an update, 6 July 2015
- Post-vote update posted to Medium: Street photography in Europe — we just won, right?, 10 July 2015
- Paul Wilkinson, PR use of public images under FOP threat, 21 June 2015 — discusses press release put out by PR industry, 18 June 2015
- Amelia Taylor-Hochberg, Photographing public art and architecture in the EU may soon cost you, Archinect, 22 June 2015
- Allison Meier, European Copyright Reform Could Restrict Photography in Public Spaces, Hyperallergic, 23 June 2015
- Tim Cushing, EU Copyright Reform Looking At Restricting Outdoor Photography, Techdirt, 24 June 2015
- Eleanora Rosati, Freedom of panorama: what is going on at the EU level?, IPKat, 26 June 2015 (legal)
- Andy Johnstone, Panoramic Freedom or Tyranny?, 1709 blog, 26 June 2015 (legal)