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Community engagement

There are a couple of different ways to engage here, via the Discussion page or participating in our survey (until August 11th), or reviewing the presentation George gave to the Commons Photographers’ User Group on Saturday, August 5, 2023. (That meeting was recorded.)

We were very happy to be at the GLAM Wiki Conference, in November. Here are the slides from our session.

29 Nov - Hi - stay tuned for our soft launch in December. We'll look forward to your testing and feedback!

Survey summaries

We've been reading over the results from the survey, thanks so much to people who completed it. Here are some initial summaries of responses that are specifically about Flickr2Commons (F2C) and where it could go. Jessamyn (talk) 14:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Pros of F2C

• Open Source
• Brings over metadata
• Ease of Use
• “It just works”
• Fast
• Works in bulk
• Partnership between Flickr and Wikimedia Commons is ideologically pleasing
• Duplicate checking
• Category add individually or as a batch
• Album import
• Built into Upload Wizard

Negatives of F2C

• Auth not working, hard to troubleshoot
• Tool sort of buried and feels “techie”
• CC licenses need updating
• Only transfers safe images
• Lack of Category addition
• Lack of documentation
• If a Flickr license changes, does not change on WC
• Confusing interface
• Lack of community conversations between Flickr/WC
• Duplicate checker doesn’t always work
• Hard to add categories
• Slow on bulk uploads
• Tags don’t align with categories
• 500 Image upload limit is too low, no way to batch in groups of 500
• Lack of structured data
• Flickrwashing

Potential improvements?

• Plugin for Lightroom or Apple Photos
• Add categories from within the tool (maybe using tags?)
• Nicer UI
• Documentation
• AI image recognition
• Incorporate QuickCategories (a tool to mass process category changes on Commons), QuickStatements (also by Magnus Manske) and AC/DC
• Autosave functionality

Confusions?

• More info on who maintains it. Why is it useful and important. How will this help me, the photographer?
• How to rename/categorize
• Relationship of Flickr (.com and/or FF) to Wikimedia Foundation

Community meetings

GLAM Wiki Conference

Group photo GLAM Wiki Conference 2023, by Scann (WDU), CC BY-SA 4.0

On 16 November, 2023, George and Alex presented Flickypedia - alpha showcase, feedback, discussion at the GLAM Wiki Conference in Montevideo. The slides and etherpad are available from the conference program.

Commons Photographers User Group

On 5 August, 2023, George joined a meeting of the Commons Photographers User Group.

Recording of the meeting (1 hour 2 minutes, 249.3 MB)

Join us

If you are interested in the project and would like to be in contact with us, sign the page below:

1. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits
2. interested in SDC mapping --MB-one (talk) 02:08, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
3. --Zache (talk) 10:19, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Is there more information we can share on our SDC mapping at this stage? It would be good to hear your opinion on our implementation choices. Ukglo, flickr.org 🌸 (talk) 11:44, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

1. ...

Feature requests

Here are the feature requests we’ve heard so far:

For Flickr2Commons

• A way to avoid License Laundering or “Flickr Washing”
• A way to blacklist bad actors
• A way to manage or block duplicates (Prevent Flickr2Commons from uploading duplicate files) - done!

For Flickypedia

• As above, plus...
• Clearer IDs of Flickr Foundation staff in wiki space - done!

For Flickr.com

• Updating CC 2.0 licenses to CC 4.0
  • Wikimedia projects recently made this transition
• Uploader that makes it clearer how to choose a Wikimedia-friendly license

Media Mentions

• Flickr Foundation is building a new bridge between Flickr and Wikimedia Commons (Diff)
• Flickr Foundation and Wikimedia Foundation partner to build Flickypedia (This Month in GLAM, newsletter)
• Flickr Wants to Make it Easier to Contribute to Wikimedia Commons, on PetaPixel
• Building Bridges for Open Content: Flickr Foundation’s Link between Flickr and Wikimedia Commons on Flickr.com blog

Other Flickr-adjacent tools

Wikimedia Commons/Flickr overlaps

• Category:Commons Flickr resources
• WC/Flickr “license laundering” issue
• Flickr Templates on WC
• Flickr Files (info about files from Flickr for W people) and Guide (official WC policy)
• Commons:Welcome, Flickr users
• Phabricator comments including 'flickr2commons'

List of tools for interacting with Flickr Images on Wikimedia Commons

• Flickr2Commons (by Magnus Manske, also differing versions in various languages)
• Query for Toolforge Tools using Flickr
• FIST (Magnus) a free image search. Queries Flickr as well as other sites
• Flinfo (URL uploader for Flickr and other free tools)
• ImportFreeImages (status?)
• Flickrripper (batch uploader)
• F2CommButton (defunct)
• Flickr Dashboard for copying photos from Flickr to Commons, and editing the metadata of both sides at the same time (the author, Sam Wilson, also maintains PhpFlicker, below)
• FlickreviewR 2 (newer version of this defunct tool)
• Flickr upload bot
• PhpFlicker a PHP package for using the Flickr API
• Discussion of batch uploading using Flickr API and a custom script