Commons:Featured picture candidates/removal/Image:Kizil Hauzen Bridge by Eugène Flandin.jpg

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Image:Kizil Hauzen Bridge by Eugène Flandin.jpg (delist), delisted[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 20 Mar 2024 at 02:13:11
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Agreed. I think we could feature Flandin; He has some lovely stuff, but... you don't get to-the-edge-of-paper crops in artworks like this. They have edges and captions. Also, tiny.  Delist Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:38, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
resolved

ex-{{FPD}} Please respect the conclusion of this discussion initiated by you, even if you disagree (count the red spots, if you prefer). See also Is there still consensus for the 2 active nomination limit? Thanks -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC)}}[reply]

Is this a nomination page? ★ 13:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, unless you show us where you can nominate 2 images + delist two, but as I remember from previous discussions in the FP talk page, a delist nomination is considered as a nom -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:29, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh right… @Adam Cuerden, El Grafo, Yann, Cmao20, and Thi: could any of you take over the nomination for me? ★ 13:56, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My proposal in 2019: "Closing a Delist nom is long yes, perhaps we can suggest the nominators to close their own noms and do the maintenance in case of success." -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delist I’m happy to take over this delist nomination, if necessary. – @Basile Morin: I may have understood this in the same way, but the rules say: “There is also a limit of two active delisting nominations per user, which is in addition to the limit of two active regular nominations.” This seems to suggest that delist nominations have their own, additional two-nomination limit. That would mean that Arion can keep this nomination. How do you understand that sentence? Best, --Aristeas (talk) 19:39, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Basile understanding the sentence: "It's time to attack him!" ★ 19:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Arion, I see you have mixed feelings, but please let us discuss this question regarding the exact meaning of the rules in peace and quiet. I am sure Basile has added the {{FPD}} template not in order to annoy you, but just in order to follow the rules. Best, --Aristeas (talk) 21:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Count the red spots, if you prefer" sounds mocking to me, as if I was dumb enough to not know how to count votes. ★ 21:18, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aristeas, you're right. Thanks for the notification. I'll try to find in the archives this discussion that misled me, to show my good faith here. ArionEstar, your comment "It's time to attack him!" is very unwelcome and quite clumsy. This was a well intentioned contribution of mine for basic maintenance. Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 21:39, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Basile Morin, your comment "count the red spots, if you prefer" is very unwelcome and quite clumsy. ★ 21:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was an advice to save you time :-) See "closing a Delist requires much more work than closing an FP nom since the Bot takes care of most of the steps with the FP but with the Delist (not to mention the Delist and Replace!) everything has to be done by a human". -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
+1; I think the FPCBot should do all the same steps in the delist/removal nominations. ★ 23:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would be nice if it could, but someone would have to figure out how to program it, and we are lucky enough as it is to have programmers who know enough to fix FPCBot when it frequently goes wrong. Cmao20 (talk) 23:54, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aristeas: , found in the archives the confusing section: "I have always seen it as counting Delist and FP-nom are the same; a nom is a nom. Delist includes 'Delist and Replace', so if you have two fresh photos there, you will get two new FPs (...) On FPC there are rather few users who actually take care of the closing, archiving and sorting of noms into FP categories. Making this a 2+2 rule would increase the workload once the noms are finished and for that we would need more users active in that part of a nomination." -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Confirmed results:
Result: 13 delist, 0 keep, 0 neutral => delisted. /Basile Morin (talk) 04:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Archiving the template
  2. Removing the picture from Commons:Featured pictures list
  3. Updating the previous unsuccessful removal nomination
  4. Changing featured=1 to featured=2 in the {{Assessments}} template
  5. Removing the image from all categories
  6. Removing the "Commons quality assessment" claim (d:Property:P6731) from the picture's Structured data
  7. Adding a delisting-comment to the original entry in chronological list of featured pictures.
Heavy task. If you choose to start, please handle the procedure from start to finish, otherwise other participants in maintenance may figure out that the whole process is complete. Now ✓ finished -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn’t FPCBot already do it? ★ 10:19, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. Hence the quote, above: "closing a Delist requires much more work than closing an FP nom since the Bot takes care of most of the steps with the FP but with the Delist (not to mention the Delist and Replace!) everything has to be done by a human" --Basile Morin (talk) 10:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the inattention. ★ 14:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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