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Info Photograph of a typical kitchen in a poor rural area of the Isla de Margarita, Venezuela -- Wilfredor (talk) 12:17, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Oppose Recognizable order in the disorder. For me the quality is not enough, especially the right blurred frame.--Ermell (talk) 22:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Weak support Both the left and right sides have noticeable blur, but I do quite like the visibility this brings to the conditions in poor rural areas. Not many photos like this out there. --Explodingcreepsr (talk) 17:08, 27 January 2023 (UTC)- Oppose Quality problems. Some frames are blurred. Also narrow DoF. We had full 360° panoramas nominated here with better sharpness and without blown highlights, like for example File:Waste hall - in Iru Thermal Power Plant.jpg or File:Fire extinguishing system.jpg. This picture in comparison is technically awkward in my opinion. Interesting image but not FP quality -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:57, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- I could have chosen to downsize the photo and it would have been a clear photo that meets the requirements but I preferred to upload the whole photo. It was a very dark kitchen so the depth of field was not sufficient in some areas (this is not blurriness). There are also circumstantial factors such as the difficulty of taking photos in these regions, very different from taking a photo in more accessible places for trave --Wilfredor (talk) 13:29, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- "it would have been a clear photo that meets the requirements" =>
Disagree. When downsized at 4000 pixels large only (that is not big, considering the ratio with horizontal orientation), the blur is already visible, and oddly distributed. The foreground at the right is in focus, then we have a blurred frame isolated in the middle, at the left the foreground is out of focus. Sorry, technically not okay -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- "it would have been a clear photo that meets the requirements" =>
- The minimal requeriment of FPC is 2000 pixels, not 40000 pixels --Wilfredor (talk) 14:15, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- The minimal requirement is Length x Width > 2 megapixels, though at this size without mitigating reason, the nominations are traditionnally considered "too small". Lots of examples available in the archives. 4'000 pixels is not big but not "dramatically small" either. It is a static subject, so no difficulty with a tripod. I don't understand why using F/3.5 (from the exif), as if the blur was intentional. Anyway, that's the resolution offerred, with its advantages and drawbacks, hence the resolution we judge. At full size it looks like a patchwork with some squares in focus and others with a different DoF, and I also notice several stitching errors at multiple locations of the image.
- Apart from that, I find the cylindrical projection with distorted perspective unappealing. I would have preferred either a full 360° composition compatible with the panoramic viewer, or a rectilinear perspective with an ultra-large angle lens. Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:35, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- I could have chosen to downsize the photo and it would have been a clear photo that meets the requirements but I preferred to upload the whole photo. It was a very dark kitchen so the depth of field was not sufficient in some areas (this is not blurriness). There are also circumstantial factors such as the difficulty of taking photos in these regions, very different from taking a photo in more accessible places for trave --Wilfredor (talk) 13:29, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Support I don't think the argument that "I could have (violated usual guidelines and) downsized the photo" is a good one, but I also don't think it's essential to have a DoF that makes every part of the picture in focus. Enough is in focus, IMO, and it's an interesting photo. Whether you support it or not is a matter of taste. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:11, 28 January 2023 (UTC)- Support per Ikan Kekek. --SHB2000 (talk) 07:58, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Agree with Basile, the mixture of focused and out-of-focus frames (e.g., foreground pan on the right; background right corner, just below the dish rack) spoils the image, best to lock focus (and exposure) when shooting panoramas --Julesvernex2 (talk) 10:01, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per Ikan Kekek. --Wieggy (talk) 16:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Weak oppose I don't blame you in the slightest for wanting to throw your arms around this scene, and capture all of it ... I tarried through lots of it, looking at parts in closeup, feeling the life in this place, letting the pots and pans on the wall at right evoke the opening scene of One Hundred Years of Solitude. But nonetheless, I agree that doing it with this sort of projection overdoes it. I'd love to see it as a 360º panorama if that might be possible someday in the future. Daniel Case (talk) 04:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your feedback. It is heart-wrenching to see that it is not possible to bring the magical realism of that novel to life in Venezuela, a country that is not only the most dangerous in Latin America, but also a dictatorship. For those of us who are Venezuelan, it is difficult to escape once we enter and carrying a professional camera is almost a death sentence. This country is the antithesis of Macondo, instead of being destroyed by wild capitalism, it has been destroyed by patriotic socialist conservativism (the easiest ideology to use at the moment, but any excuse is feasible for corruption). I apologize for going off topic, but this is a subject that touches me deeply at the heart due to a decade without being able to visit my parents. --Wilfredor (talk) 13:52, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry; that's really painful. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:13, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your feedback. It is heart-wrenching to see that it is not possible to bring the magical realism of that novel to life in Venezuela, a country that is not only the most dangerous in Latin America, but also a dictatorship. For those of us who are Venezuelan, it is difficult to escape once we enter and carrying a professional camera is almost a death sentence. This country is the antithesis of Macondo, instead of being destroyed by wild capitalism, it has been destroyed by patriotic socialist conservativism (the easiest ideology to use at the moment, but any excuse is feasible for corruption). I apologize for going off topic, but this is a subject that touches me deeply at the heart due to a decade without being able to visit my parents. --Wilfredor (talk) 13:52, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
I withdraw my nomination Thank you all for the feedback, especially the negative ones, I will take them into account in the future --Wilfredor (talk) 19:28, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
