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File:Sunset on the Aresquiers beach.jpg, featured[edit]

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Sunset on the Aresquiers beach
@Basile Morin: ok no problem, I just want to precise that : "and most such pictures are not in essence different from others " is very different from "you will have to oppose all these images by principle" as an extra difficulty for sunset photos, it is quite the opposite : "are not in essence different from others" mean if the image is special then the sunset have not to be "extra special". That is, sunset must not be promoted simply because they are sunset but the opposite is also true sunset must not be declined simply because they are sunset. This image is special because I carefully tried to compose it, with the lines made by the beach and the waves, the silhouettes in the sun light, the perspective, the exposure time carefully chosen to have water not too creamy but just enough creamy, the timing (not easy) to have the waves making lines for the eyes, and of course this colour! ect... I guess, and I hope, that you think the image is not "in some way special" and that it is not just a matter of principle. Christian Ferrer (talk) 06:18, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Christian. Rules shouldn't be an end unto themselves. PumpkinSky talk 12:31, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Christian Ferrer: To answer you, I think this is a good picture, maybe a quality image. But why featured ? -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:15, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Because it may be, from my point of view among our finest, the purpose of that page, you will see in Commons:Featured pictures/Natural phenomena 2 or 3 good sunset showing waves, no more, and if you check the most general sunset category you will easily see that the photos that combine good quality (without over or under exposition) + good composition + special mood + visual interest are not so common, far from that, and my image may be indeed one of the finest. This is only my point of view and of course I agree that you can think this image is not enough special.
But your "copy and paste" from our guideline made me think that you just took there a reason to oppose. And that made me think that you took more time when going to the guideline, searching the right place, copying the right sentence and then pasting it here, than a real review of this image. There is something unwritten in the guideline : "better is a boring image than a boring reviewer", but that is again only my personal point of view. And if you are not concerned by my last sentence, if you really took the time to look at the image and that you are really convinced that the image is not among the finest then ignore my last sentence and I present you my most apologetic...sincerely. Christian Ferrer (talk) 12:43, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a question of principle, just the guidelines seems perfectly right here, to my eyes (subjective). But valid featured images of sunset are for example File:Sugarloaf_Sunrise_2.jpg or File:Bodenseeregatta_Rund_um_2015.jpg, for sure !
Concerning the characteristics of the image, as you ask my personal opinion, I'm sorry to say I find the image rather poor, first underexposed, and then annoying. Flat waves (not breaking at all), flat sky, and dark sand. Only sharp far away, and blurring in front. The beautiful yellow could have been gained on photoshop, this is not the essence of the image, while the blue is pale. So basically I find the picture uninteresting. Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:09, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh that's it, that's what I asked, thank you for the review, I'm reassured you've reviewed it. Sorry for taking you off. Thank you again. I just add that I think "underexposed" is not appropriate, I think it is very close to the reality, and the goal of my processing was to stay close to reality, this is dusk, and sooner later it was dark night, therefore the sand is widely enough "clear". Christian Ferrer (talk) 18:22, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
lol :) "cold countries" also have sunsets. "thanks for the cite" : glad you finally could read our guideline. Christian Ferrer (talk) 18:35, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Clear sunsets in countries near the poles are less common due to the weather, in addition the color temperature is more neutral and less vibrant then the Caribe, for example "Los Roques", a place near my house. "The amount of dust in the air -- such as from the explosion of Mount Pinatubo -- increases deflection of red rays of the sun at twilight morning and evening. So the colors are purer. And being in a place where there are 2 long bands of cloud from North to South can allow for a very long-lasting sunset. The light manages first to bounce directly off of the nearer band of cloud producing very deep reds, oranges and can bring a great amount of bright gold to some of the clouds. As the earth turns away the sun still shines and reflects off of the bottom of the band of clouds further west. The red still penetrates. The later light is not as intense or polychromatic, but when seated appreciating the serenity and beauty of a sunset, an extra half hour is ever-so satisfying". [1] BTW, Dear Christian Ferrer, please assume good faith and don't take the comments personally and remember that when you post a photo candidature here you agree to accept criticism and respond politely, for example, my recommendation is avoid making appeal to ridicule like "glad you finally could read our guideline". --The Photographer 19:05, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks you all and sorry for my skid, me too I think it is a bit more than just a sunset, I changed the fp category to "place". I should avoid embarking on endless and unproductive debates, it always leads me into the wall... Christian Ferrer (talk) 05:34, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 19 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /PumpkinSky talk 19:31, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Natural
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