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Prayer at the Buddha Tooth Relic Temple of Singapore
  • Yes perhaps the technical quality would have been improved with HDR process, but in the current situation time was really limited. Only a few seconds available to take this single picture before my camera was driven by the crowd and the guard to the exit. Interiors of Chinese temples are often wonderful, though rather rare here, maybe because frequently lit up that way File:Miaoli-County_Taiwan_Quanhua-Temple-03.jpg. And here non-static people in the room also increased the difficulty. Thanks for your review -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:09, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think so. Nearly everybody on this side were taking selfies of them there, in front of these monks and nuns praying. Just we were very numerous, so not really allowed to stay long -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:54, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Blow lit areas in the central shrine and all along both sides. The crop/view focuses far too much on the rather boring ceiling, which the wide-angle view emphasises, and which correspondingly makes tiny the people and the shrine and other art works. I appreciate that some situations make HDR difficult but it can sometimes still be possible, or else expose lower and accept some noise, or else move to a Sony :-). I'll draw a suggested crop, though the resulting image is probably too small. -- Colin (talk) 07:32, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes too small, but also much less interesting without these several rows of symmetrical tables facing to each others, plus the quantity of religious statuettes embedded in the wall, not to be missed. So, definitely this crop I will keep, and I love the perspective effect of this ceiling. Thanks for the suggestion -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:07, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Very interesting interior --A.Savin 08:54, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support The support is for the rarity and complexity involved in taking such a photo. Otherwise we always get exteriors or empty interiors. I don't mind the big ceiling, church photos always include a lot of ceiling too, just not this kind that we are not used to. The vast space makes the people look humble, with a closer crop it looks just like any conference. The weak is because of the noted blown areas. At least they are not dulled to gray blobs as in a previous photo. You might want to try the trick for "almost HDR" you can do with just one photo. Make another version of this in Lightroom with a much lower exposure, place both photos as layers in Photohop on top of the original photo (that way you get the correct Exif from the original), the "underexposed" version in "the middle". After that you can erase overly bright areas in the top layer and let the darker layer shine through. Merge into a single layer. You can of course do a similar trick with the correction brush in LR, but it is often easier to control the whole thing in PS using different settings on the eraser. --Cart (talk) 09:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • ✓ Done If still not perfect, I find the result very much improved. Thanks a lot, Cart, for this interesting technique. Another advantage of using Photoshop here in this process is that we can selectively choose a color range from the menu Select, making the operation quite faster compared to Lightroom with the correction brush. I will keep this trick in mind for the future -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:07, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, much better. Artists always find it easier to do the finishing touches in PS since it's all about seeing the colors and the light as opposed to LR which is more about numbers. I'm more used to PS since I've used it for about 20 years now and LR for little more than one year. I hope to learn LR better and find all the little tricks in that one too. ;) Btw, I think your camera has the option to take 3 rapid photos with different preset +-EV? That is ideal for places like this. Press the button once and get 3 photos with different exposures. My camera does 3-7 different exposures and I love using it since you get instant options for blown areas. --Cart (talk) 10:36, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes we have this option with Canon too from 2 to 7 automatic different exposures. Agree it's useful in such situation. Thanks for these constructive hints and clever recommendation -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:54, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm seeing the "dulled to gray blobs" effect that Cart mentioned. This is particularly apparent in the "white now grey" flowers on either side of the shrine and the "specular metal reflection now actually darker than the surrounds" on the gold shrine. The wooden round object on the table near left had a bright highlight that is now dulled and surrounded by darkened wood. The woman on the right who was reading a brightly lit paper book is now reading a book made of recycled cardboard. And the man behind her is disappointed that his white t-shirt has turned mid-grey in the wash :-). Sometimes, blown is blown. -- Colin (talk) 12:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Of course you can't get it perfect with just a single photo, you can only rescue the not-really-blown areas surrounding the blown areas, but I still think this photo is rare enough (city skylines are not and I demand perfection of such photos) to warrant an FP per "A bad picture of a very difficult subject is a better picture than a good picture of an ordinary subject. A good picture of a difficult subject is an extraordinary photograph." Although that part of the FPC instructions also states that opinion wars can start here... Let's just agree to disagree instead of warring. --Cart (talk) 12:27, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • There was an ugly board, white color and eye-catching on the right, that couldn't be just cloned out but really needed to be cropped unfortunately, then the left side as well to keep the symmetry. Thanks -- Basile Morin (talk) 09:20, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 17 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 18:25, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Interiors/Religious_buildings#Singapore
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