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File:Notre-Dame de Paris roof apostels evangelists.jpg, not featured[edit]

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View of roof with transepts and base of spire and 16 statues of apostels and evangelists of Notre-Dame de Paris in France.
  •  Support --Yann (talk) 09:49, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per Cart. This high resolution picture is indeed valuable, but I don't think it would even have been nominated last week. The spire is cropped, the scaffolding unfortunate, and the light very ordinary. At a later time we can perhaps judge better, and worth comparing fairly with other photos of this very highly-photographed building. -- Colin (talk) 09:57, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • IMO, the whole point is that we won't see that part of the cathedrale again for years, if ever, i.e. how similar it is going to be after reconstruction... --Yann (talk) 10:57, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per Colin, sorry. --A.Savin 13:21, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I am probably guilty, as Cart says, of voting based on my emotions about this beautiful building. But I believe it's FP nonetheless. Of course the image is not perfect technically - it's distorted a little at the edges - and I quite agree that it wouldn't have been nominated last week. But it now has value as a historical shot as well as a documentation of an extraordinary piece of architecture. When Our Lady of Paris is rebuilt, there's no guarantee it will look exactly the same, and I think an FP of the cathedral as it was before the fire is a good idea - to document what we've lost in the fire. Thanks for the lovely picture. Cmao20 (talk) 14:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Here you go: Category:Featured pictures of Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Paris. --A.Savin 16:19, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for pointing me to the category. Many of those are lovely, but I stand by a support for this one. To me, the point of this image is that it specifically depicts the spire and roof, the parts of the cathedral most severely damaged or destroyed by fire. Cmao20 (talk) 18:08, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Thanks for pointing me to the category". You should have already looked, though it doesn't help that category link is to Italy! We are judging "the finest on Commons" which requires researching the existing category of Featured Pictures of this (and/or similar buildings) and our existing extensive collection of images which may not yet have been nominated here. While some images that are not photographically/artistically good have other merits that make them superb, the main things going for this one is the great detail of the 50MP image and recentism. Regulars here will have seen this many times after tragic events, and nearly every time the nomination is rejected without prejudicing a later nomination. This building is one of the most photographed subjects in the world. So, the standard required for FP is high. -- Colin (talk) 18:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • I do try to look for existing FPs, Colin, I had already found some using the FP galleries, it's just the category I hadn't come across before until A. Savin showed me. But, looking in that category, I see five generic shots of the outside of the cathedral, one of the interior, one of the ceiling, one of some stained glass, one of the towers, two of a façade, and three historical shots from the C19th. Nothing that depicts the exact parts of the cathedral that were destroyed in the fire, and certainly not at the resolution of this picture. And regretfully, we’re not likely to get anything better until the cathedral has been rebuilt – which could take 15 years, and may not look the same as it did before. Maybe it’s a better argument for VI than for FP, but that’s my rationale anyway. Cmao20 (talk) 20:48, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per others -- Ryan Hodnett (talk) 18:39, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose -- the fire is truly sad but this is not an FP. Seven Pandas (talk) 00:47, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per others. I have great affection for this cathedral and felt sick yesterday, but this is a VI, not IMO an FP. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:10, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Per others--BoothSift 04:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Per others: possibly a VI, but no FP. --El Grafo (talk) 08:47, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Shows much of what was destroyed in the fire. More of Viollet-le-Duc's spire would have made photo better, but now this photo is historical as it's very unlikely the spire replacement will follow Viollet-le-Duc's design. Abzeronow (talk) 22:19, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Abzeronow: Such reasoning usually indicates a VI but not necessarily a FP. --BoothSift 22:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 4 support, 10 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 13:06, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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