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File:Dead Banana Plants in Snow.jpg, not featured[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 28 Jan 2018 at 01:54:32 (UTC)
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Dead banana plants in snow
As a general observation: I do think that for images that aren't of an obviously "wow" subject, the nominator really does have to explain in their nomination why they are going wow. Because if they can't explain it to us, why should we work at it? And when we have to work at it, we get the sort of bias where we assume there is greatness among our friends nominations and try to invent greatness in a photo that really isn't great. Why this is among the finest of all images on commons? Is just a snap of some dead banana plants, and not some photographic work of art. -- Colin (talk) 09:11, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment @Colin: Opposers really should be able to state the reasons for their oppositions without such condescension and arrogance but we all know you're fully incapable of that. PumpkinSky talk 12:04, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Pumpkin, friendly warning: the last person who couldn't handle his greatness being brought down to earth by an oppose or two at FPC without making personal attacks, was recently blocked indefinitely. I see some dead banana leaves and a JPG with the correct exposure and focus sharpness I'd expect from >£4000 worth of camera equipment. I don't see great art or great technique. Please tell us: what is "finest" about this. What should make us go "wow!". -- Colin (talk) 12:39, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
          • @Colin: Good one Colin, threaten me. Go right ahead. For the record, I don't mind the opposes one bit, it's the appalling way you treat people I won't put up with. You're the one making personal attacks. Why can't you just say something like "I see correct exposure and focus sharpness but I don't see great art or great technique." There's no need for hurling insults and condescension at people the way you do. You're the one who needs to come off his high and mighty greatness. PumpkinSky talk 13:05, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
            • Pumkpin, you have done nothing but throw insults at me, and now you terminate your nomination early. The image, the nomination text, the other reviews, the procedures here at FPC, the systemic bias as FPC... these things are all up for discussion and disagreement. There are some who think all self nominations are arrogant. There are some who think FPC is a gentleman's club where we mutually support each other's images for promotion. You still haven't explained why you think this is among the finest images on Commons, nor what makes you go wow when you see it. You think a red-link newbie could get away with nominating an ordinary static photo of a dead plant without being drowned in "no wow" oppose votes? -- Colin (talk) 14:08, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info The comment above is certainly scornful. "Point camera at dead leaves. Press shutter button." As if it was rubish. It's totally disrespectful. That's not food waste, that's not garbage. This is a natural object with tones, texture and temperature. The so-called "friendly warning" above is not friendly at all. Talking about blocking in the actual situation is even absurd. And if there were masters for nominations here, more skillful and more visionary than others, we wouldn't meet such lamentable fiascos like this one Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:Rose,_Sheila's_Perfume,_バラ,_シーラズ_パヒューム,_(14525862372).jpg. Ridiculous -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Colin: All you've done is throw insults at me and many others. At that, I'm bowing out of this conversation because it will no doubt prove fruitless. PumpkinSky talk 14:37, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Guys, FPC is to choose images "highlighted as some of the finest on Commons". I don't sugar the pill but my complaint about the image is not "scornful", unlike Basile's "lamentable fiasco" language. There is no display of brilliance here from anyone other than some Nikon engineers. Absolutely no indication the photographer did any more than point their camera dead centre at the dead plant and press the shutter. This is the uncomfortable fact of this nomination and PumpkinSky has been asked to suggest otherwise and refused to do so. Basile: see this definition. Photographing a "natural object with tones, texture and temperature" does not guarantee one an FPC. Photographing something non-beautiful, whether a dead plant or food waste, and expecting "wow" is rather more challenging than photographing a pretty flower. There is no "composition" here other than "arrange viewfinder/zoom such that most of the subject is in the frame". Come on guys, show a bit more respect for FPC. Finest. Finest. Finest. The most juvenile thing one can do, when wanting to attack another reviewer, is to point at one of that's reviewer's nominations and insult it as being even worse. So well done Basile, for descending to that level. Good evening. -- Colin (talk) 16:19, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @PumpkinSky: I agree with you and appreciate the way you manage everything here . Now you withdrew already, but want to say I find similarities with this photograph and some of your successful Featured Pictures :
Keep on the good job ! -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 3 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /PumpkinSky talk 16:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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