Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Church of the Saviour, Beijing.jpg

File:Church of the Saviour, Beijing.jpg, not featured

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•  Info created by ZhengZhou - uploaded by ZhengZhou - nominated by ZhengZhou -- ZhengZhou (talk) 06:02, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
•  Support -- ZhengZhou (talk) 06:02, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
•  Comment Interesting motif and welcome to FPC! But can you explain why you think this is one of the very best photos on Commons? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:32, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
•  Comment Sure. This is a clear image of the church, a rare nexus connecting catholic religion (western culture) and the Chinese, on a nice day. You can see two beautiful Chinese pavilions with yellow tiles (only the emperor's family were allowed to use yellow tiles in China'a feudal eras) in front of the magnificent Gothic architecture. I think contrast and fusion of this image are amazing as they reflect the equally interesting history behind this building. ZhengZhou (talk) 07:49, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
•  Comment You might want to study the FPs we have of churches and learn from how the photographers choose a good PoV, frame the shot with adequate foreground and handle perspective distortion. Charlesjsharp (talk) 20:47, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

   Comment Agreed. ZhengZhou, your reply addresses why this could be a great motif, not the quality of the photo. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:47, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

  @ZhengZhou: I'll be kind of honest with you, as an occasional participant of Chinese FPC: the standard here at Commons FPC is much higher than over there, both on artistic merit and technical quality. While it is possible for smartphone photos to become FP, it is quite rare: only 4 out of a total of nearly 15,000. This photo is 12 MP, certainly enough for FP but slightly on the low end, and the detail is not very good by our standards. Also, it would be better if the facade is illuminated by the sunlight. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:26, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

•  Oppose Composition problem, in my view. Distracting foreground -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:57, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
•  Oppose Perspective correction needed. Daniel Case (talk) 06:07, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

  @Ikan Kekek: @Charlesjsharp: @King of Hearts: @Basile Morin: @Daniel Case: Your comments are noted but I doubt you will make the same comment if you've visited the church and understood layout of its surroundings. ZhengZhou (talk) 12:26, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

• Totally incorrect. The quality of a photo has nothing to do with whether I've seen the motif before in person or not. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
• I have visited the Eiffel Tower and understood the layout of its surroundings, nevertheless would never support File:DSF2322 (47547377332).jpg -- Basile Morin (talk) 23:54, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

•  Oppose Please try to take our constructive comments on board. There is no reason to crop the lions in the foreground - see Google Earth. There is lots of room. Perspective correction is a mater of taste, but you could take feeback from experienced users. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:46, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
•  Oppose per above. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:45, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
•  Oppose per above --Milseburg (talk) 12:53, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

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Result: 1 support, 5 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /--MZaplotnik^(talk) 14:18, 22 September 2021 (UTC)