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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 18 Jun 2015 at 06:19:19 (UTC)
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture/Cityscapes
- Info Very high resolution panorama of a part of Seattle, created by dllu - uploaded by dllu - nominated by Dllu -- Dllu (talk) 06:19, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support -- Dllu (talk) 06:19, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Comment Leaning in a bit on both sides. --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:46, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out. I have just now mitigated the lean and corrected a slight tilt in horizon. There is still a bit of lean on certain buildings due to imperfect stitching, perspective distortion in each frame, etc, but I think it is far less than 0.2 degrees and should not significantly detract from the image. Dllu (talk) 07:02, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support It's a great panorama. --Tremonist (talk) 14:24, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Comment There's black dotted line on the bottom. --Laitche (talk) 19:35, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
I have no idea how that came to be butin any case that is negligible when viewed at any reasonable resolution. Dllu (talk) 19:47, 9 June 2015 (UTC)- Hmm, apparently it is a hugin bug when there is not enough RAM. Dllu (talk) 19:50, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose Overprocessed (contrast and saturation/vibrance). The actual viewpoint seems a bit arbitrary. For example, a crop of the rightmost square makes a better composition. -- Colin (talk) 21:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah I increased the saturation a bit, adjusted some curves. I guess I've been looking at too many photos from stuckincustoms, heh. I've uploaded the original frames straight out of camera in case anyone wants to attempt a better postprocesssing/stitching. I also have the RAW files available. As for the composition, the left part of the picture is actually Capitol Hill. I'm not sure what the middle part is called and the right part is downtown Seattle. Dllu (talk) 22:17, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support Kruusamägi (talk) 22:40, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose I am with Colin here Poco2 19:32, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose Great panorama but per Colin and the quality is not reaching the FP standards. --Laitche (talk) 20:53, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Laitche: @Poco a poco: @Colin: What do you guys think of the Alternative with faithful colours below? Also, will Laitche please explain what you mean by "quality is not reaching the FP standards"? In terms of resolution, image noise, sharpness, distortion, etc, I think this is pretty good. Thanks! Dllu (talk) 00:53, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- noise level. --Laitche (talk) 01:05, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- The noise level is not at all visible if you view it at 50%, which is 11194 x 3440, still much better than many other panoramas which have passed FP status. Dllu (talk) 01:13, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, if it is nominated at 50% downsampled, the noise level is probably acceptable. I think every member is judging nominated one not what if downsampled... --Laitche (talk) 01:59, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Laitche: You are mistaken. The Commons:Image guidelines clearly states that images should not be downsampled under any circumstance. A 150 megapixel image with a slight amount of noise when inspecting individual pixels is always better than a 15 megapixel image that appears as though it does not have any noise. Dllu (talk) 02:04, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, so I am not suggesting downsampling, I just wrote my thoughts why every member is not supporting this great panorama but not sure cause I don't know the others thoughts :) --Laitche (talk) 02:15, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Laitche: will you stop pixel-peeping. This image, when viewed on your monitor at 100% is over 5 metres wide. And are complaining about noise which is only visible from close inspection at that level on a 155MP image! We do not encourage people to downsize images for Commons and unfortunately Commons MediaWiki software cannot render a 50% view of such a large image for people to review. You say you are not suggesting downsampling but your oppose for noise leaves nominators no option but to upload downsized images to prevent this sort of petty and ignorant review. Stop it and please learn how to review digital images properly. We look at the image, not the pixels. Dllu, I'll look at the alternative tonight if I get a chance. -- Colin (talk) 07:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Colin: Would you please stop trying to force your ideas on me? I never say that you are wrong but my thoughts are mine :) --Laitche (talk) 10:00, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- They aren't "my ideas" but the standard mature approach to reviewing digital images. Pixel-peeping is universally regarded as a newbie mistake in all photographic forums. Your "don't criticize me, my ideas are precious" approach to life is fine for primary-school children, but in the real world of grown ups, you should welcome criticism and learn from it. Your pixel-peeping approach to image review is positively harmful to FP and you should stop doing it. Learn to look at the picture. -- Colin (talk) 10:12, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Here is Dllu's nomination page, and you added the new topic of pixel peeping, so I think it's not good to talk more about this matter in this page, Regards. --Laitche (talk) 10:56, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- It is most regrettable that we now need rules to document common sense. Meanwhile you continue to make a mockery of FP by complaining about noise in a 150MP image. -- Colin (talk) 11:10, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- I know well what you want to say so please stop it Colin, it's rude to the nominator :) --Laitche (talk) 11:19, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Alternative[edit]
- Info Alternative version: With natural colours straight out of camera without any post-processing. Also cropped out artifacts near bottom edge of picture. Dllu (talk) 02:29, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support Nice view. Although sharpness is not the best at full size, this is over 150 MP and we've seen panoramas promoted here with less than half the linear resolution of this (which, by the way, looks flawless at 50%). Perhaps there is something to be gained by increasing the brightness (though not the saturation). --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:56, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- I've increased the brightness using a nearly linear curve. Dllu (talk) 06:09, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Tremonist (talk) 12:41, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Hubertl (talk) 10:12, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 03:05, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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