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Boat in Skillinge, Sweden
  • Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Objects
  •  Info all by Pudelek -- Pudelek (talk) 22:54, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Pudelek (talk) 22:54, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment great idea, unfortunately it doesn't work (yet). Imo the picture is too dark and grey. You could try to boost brightness maybe...? --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 06:20, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Agree with Martin Falbisoner. Should be a little brighter and there is some vignetting, too. --Code (talk) 07:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment It's striking in its own way. I kind of like it, but - although not a strict criterion here - I think I'd like a plausible use on one of the Wikimedia projects (Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikiversity, etc) to seal the deal. Say, use of monochrome in photography? Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:32, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't think "use on Wikimedia project" is a criterion at all, never mind strict. And I feel that unless an image is take with the express purpose of illustrating a photographic technique, then claiming such as its "educational value" is clutching at straws. The image certainly can be used on an educational project (Wikimedia or otherwise) but such usage is much wider than simply using a picture to illustrate something. An image like this may be far more useful to express a mood. A low-colour photograph of calm water is a common theme (I am reminded of my own File:Old Pier, Salen, Isle of Mull.jpg). I'm not sure the composition here is great enough to be FP, but undecided about whether to oppose. -- Colin (talk) 09:03, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Minimalism revisited. I more or less like the photo, even though it consists "only" of a tiny object in a vast sea of greyness. Concerning the educational value that it certainly has, I agree with Colin. --Tremonist (talk) 12:09, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Colin and Tremonist: Well, there's suggestions for changing it above, but, the thing is, before we can change what's basically an artistic work, I think we need to decide what it's meant to illustrate and show. Would brightening it and losing the vignetting help - or would that remove the artistry and make it worthless. Commons has two prongs to its scope: Education and supporting Wikimedia projects, extant and future. We're having trouble evaluating this as we haven't quite pinned down criteria by which to evaluate it, so - while actual usage is unnecessary, coming up with some plausible uses will give us some sort of criteria to evaluate it by. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:25, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
          • Thank you for your comment, Adam. I think making changes of any kind isn't really helpful here, because it's the mood that's of supreme importance, of which the greyness is an essential aspect. For instance, taking a photo under really bad weather conditions, would it appear any more realistic or impressive or educational, if it were brightened and thus the original effect expressed lessened? About a usage for an artistic photo of this kind we really should think carefully, I agree. Has anybody ideas yet? --Tremonist (talk) 12:50, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
            • PS: If you ask me, there could be a separate Wiki art project featuring great photos of artistic value -- like a virtual art gallery. It could be structured like a museum: with different virtual rooms for different styles &c. Art itself is highly educational, not only the facts and the opinions uttered about them count. But that's my very personal opinion... --Tremonist (talk) 13:08, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
              • Commons' scope is pretty broad, and I think goes beyond the image having to directly illustrate some tangible thing. Of course, that's the majority of photos on FP Commons (churches, insects, notable people, famous/historical artwork, etc) and very much the majority on Wikipedia. But I think here it also includes images that one could use within an educational work (book, website, film, etc) but which conveys something less direct and less physical information. To do that well, it may well rely on qualities we commonly call artistic, but it isn't art for art's sake. This boat is alone; the man is on a journey to a destination we can't see; the water is very calm; visibility is very poor. These are all useful concepts to help illustrate some essay/talk and for which this picture can be an aid. Adding an image like this doesn't perhaps in itself supply information, but it helps the educational process and makes the essay/talk more enjoyable and possibly then more successful as an educational work. I don't think we need to decide on just one illustrative aspect (e.g. loneliness, or a colourless scene), since the image may have uses we can't anticipate. The question is whether it works successfully for the aspects you take from it, and whether is of high quality bother technically and artistically. I've added a crop suggestion. -- Colin (talk) 13:56, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose For something that minimalistic, I'd prefer a bolder color for the background: almost pure white, almost pure black, a vibrant blue, etc. Minimalism is about standing out from the crowd, and the light grey color here just doesn't cut it. --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks all for the comments and information, I  I withdraw my nomination --Pudelek (talk) 17:35, 30 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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