Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Alce (Alces alces), Potter marsh, Alaska, Estados Unidos, 2017-08-22, DD 139.jpg

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Free and wild exemplar of a female moose in Potter marsh, near Anchorage, Alaska, United States.
  • Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
  •  Info Exemplar of a female moose (Alces alces) in Potter marsh, near Anchorage, Alaska, United States. All by me, Poco2 21:00, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info This shot was not taken in a zoo. It's a wild and free animal and I was really lucky to have the chance of a close shot. Btw, we have no FPs of any moose/elks. Poco2 21:05, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Poco2 21:00, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Nice shoot, Why this 1000 ISO? It was done from a helicopter? the animal is sick (excessive amount of flies in the dark part of his leg) ? --The Photographer 21:33, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    The Photographer, if you check the exif data you'll see that I used 67 mm, not 670 mm, so I wasn't really far away, as said, I was lucky, it came from the blue. I used ISO 1000 because the lighting was tricky and the exposure time had to be short to get it sharp. I don't see this animal sick because of a minor cut in one leg, wild animals get hurt from time to time, that is how life out there looks like. Poco2 20:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment We may not have any moose FPs but I'm not wild about the quality of this photo. The light is very harsh and it makes it's fur look strange. Our moose usually have a deep warm brown tint to their fur. Are the Alaskan different? They are a nuisance on the roads here, so I usually get a very good look at them when I step on the brakes to keep from colliding with them. Unfortunately, they are always gone by the time I can get my camera out. --Cart (talk) 21:34, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cart: I haven't see so many of them that close, but you may be right, so I warmed it a bit. Regarding the quality, I challenge you to find out something better out there...I don't say that this would be a reason to consider this FP, but that may be a reason to figure out that capture a moose is not so easy (and in this case in her habitat, far from the road). --Poco2 20:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, there are a lot of good moose photos here in Sweden. They are not hard to find or shoot, it's just that those photographers are not active on Commons (you can picture Google "älgtjur" to get what I mean). The rest they really shoot them during our annual moose hunting season. There are too many of them so they need to cull the population, and moose meat is the most delicious thing you can get. They are also part of our cultural heritage. I'm sorry that I'm so used to good moose photos, having grown up with them around me, that I just can't support this. I expect to see a healthy and robust animal for an FP, something like these specimens (this or this, as you can see we even get them in our gardens). I'm not much of an animal photographer myself, but we do have a moose park just around the corner here and I've been thinking about maybe visit it. Animals in a park is about the level of animal photography I can manage. We'll see. --Cart (talk) 21:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly can't speak for Alaska, never having been there (and the parts of Yukon I've been to have neither roads nor moose), but someone I met once from New Brunswick said they are a problem on rural roads there ... basically, he said, if you hit one at full speed and you're not driving a pickup or SUV, you're going to die when the moose's carcass goes through your windshield, as they are that heavy. Daniel Case (talk) 16:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. They are top-heavy and not built for colliding with. My little Mazda is no match for them, so you have to be alert here when driving. --Cart (talk) 17:48, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The first version uploaded look less  Overexposed . --The Photographer 21:38, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment You challenged me to find a better photo. Now that I've fixed it a bit, I would much rather see this photo (compo, specimen, angle) over the nominated but none of them are FPs IMO, both have tech flaws. --Cart (talk) 22:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Cart, lease, don't compare zoo or garden images with wildlife shots, that's just not fair. I traveled far away to have a chance to see a moose in its enviroment, I didn't go to the closet zoo were after paying 20 euro I can shot all animals I like Poco2 22:57, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of course I'm not, don't be offended. That is a wild moose that has wandered into a garden from the forest to steal apples. They do that all the time in autumn. Sometimes the apples have been on the ground for a while so they have become fermented and we get drunk wild moose wobbeling around and some local hunter will have to come and shoot the moose. As you can see, that is a low garden fence. It is useless to keep the moose out of the garden, they just step right over it. Sweden is the country with most moose per forest area in the world. Here their natural habitat is in every forest patch between our houses and farms, so it is natural for them to get close to people and houses. We have to shoot about 100 000 of them each year to keep the damage they do to our forests at a reasonable level, in Alaska they shoot 7000 per year and Alaska is four times as big as Sweden. --Cart (talk) 23:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Most of our nature photos are specimen photos, with little artistic creativity, and so we value seeing a sharp clear image of a healthy typical animal or plant. Rarely we get beautiful compositions and beautiful light or we get interesting behaviour captured. Here is neither. The lack of existing moose FPs seems more to do with the arbitrary demographics of Commons photographers than any particularly difficulty finding/photographing one. We have better pics of similar mammals. -- Colin (talk) 07:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per my discussion/reasons above. --Cart (talk) 19:04, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  I withdraw my nomination --Poco2 20:03, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 2 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /--Cart (talk) 20:36, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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