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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Sports
- Info created by Granada - uploaded by Granada - nominated by Granada -- Granada (talk) 07:56, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support -- Granada (talk) 07:56, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support dynamic, sharp, well lit, pleasant bokeh, leaves nothing to be desired --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 08:03, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support per Martin. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:18, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support Now this is how I'd expect this shot to look if it were in a sports publication ... skier looking toward the viewer, background not distracting, and a nice dynamic pose. Daniel Case (talk) 16:27, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'm still OK with this new version. Daniel Case (talk) 16:05, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support--Michielverbeek (talk) 22:15, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- Question Can someone explain to me why a photo with all those burned areas in the background should be an FP? PumpkinSky talk 03:23, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Question then why this vote? - Benh (talk) 08:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support --Ralf Roleček 10:04, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The face of the leading skier is not in focus. I'm not keen on the background either. Charles (talk) 10:47, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment @Charlesjsharp: I've uploaded a new version with changed white balance and a bit selective darkening the background. In ternms of sharpness please note that the ski-bob-lady shot by Isiwal is downscaled, which is perfectly o.k. to me, but I fully intentionally left Fabian Rießle at 100% because his face is reasonably sharp enough for print and other possible reuses. --Granada (talk) 06:51, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- I didn't spot the downscaling on the ski bob picture unfortunately. I just liked the composition. Charles (talk) 08:39, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment This is only visible at 100% and "tack sharp at 100%" is not an FP requirement. See User:Colin/PixelPeeping. --Granada (talk) 13:56, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
OpposeSharpness is ok and it's action-y, but the main subject is in shadow while the background is in sunlight and that's seldom a good combo. Also the skiers aren't that separated from the rather busy background and the shadow gives the snow a rather unpleasant greenish tint. Sorry. --cart-Talk 18:33, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Weak support Ok, this is better. --cart-Talk 10:26, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Opposeper Charles and cart. --Basotxerri (talk) 21:25, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment @Basotxerri: I've uploaded a new version with changed white balance and a bit selective darkening the background. --Granada (talk) 06:51, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- OK, the new version is much better. However, for my taste the background is too nervous for a support vote. I change my vote to Neutral. --Basotxerri (talk) 16:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Cart and plus that burnt background. PumpkinSky talk 23:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Question Shouldn't this !vote be struck now? Daniel Case (talk) 16:04, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- No. One vote per picture up to the block is ok according to the discussion that followed the debacle. Only the noms that have the PS/HG double votes get one of those votes struck. --cart-Talk 19:11, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Question Shouldn't this !vote be struck now? Daniel Case (talk) 16:04, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I'll better end this as it is as always very frustrating to see the initial approval turn to the negative side. --Granada (talk) 10:46, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Granada: Unfortunately, that is how it is many times, since most users don't want to give an 'O' without careful consideration. If you want to end the nomination, you have to put the
{{withdraw}}
at the end of the nom and sign it, please. --cart-Talk 11:41, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- @W.carter: PumpkinSky's vote made me post that I should close this nomination, but now I'll leave it open as I'm still convinced that it's a great shot as noted by Daniel Case. btw: I tried to dim the background by laying a mask over it, but then the image looks purely unnatural. No good idea. --Granada (talk)
- Perfectly ok. Even though I voted 'opposed', I still think it may have a chance and if the majority votes for it, I'm fine with that. That's how the system works. :) --cart-Talk 13:12, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Btw, small tip for you. If you take the white balance from the snow in front instead of the huts behind the trees, do a selective very small darkening of the background's mid-tones and bring up the foreground's highlights a little bit, I think it will make the photo look better. --cart-Talk 13:33, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- @W.carter: Thank you very much for that hint. This was one of the first images I uploaded quite quickly while the event was still running (this was the first of three days) and did not much care about white balance. I'm now almost finished (took about 4000 shots) and I noticed once again that the auto-wb of the D850 works fantastic in comparison to the D4 I had before, but that it could help a lot to tweak it a few degrees (+3 warmer in Lightroom is enough in most cases). Especially in such tough lighting situations with bright snow and stray light of the sun coming through the trees. --Granada (talk) 13:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- @W.carter: I've uploaded a new version with changed white balance and a bit darker background (made an auto mask in LR based on about the brighter midtones and lowered the lights and the shadows in the masked area) --Granada (talk) 17:23, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you, I'll take this under consideration later. When you alter your nomination this way, you must also 'ping' all the other voters (I think you can skip PumpkinSky), even those who voted for the photo, since they may or may not like this new version. --cart-Talk 17:36, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Granada: Unfortunately, that is how it is many times, since most users don't want to give an 'O' without careful consideration. If you want to end the nomination, you have to put the
- Comment I see that you have pinged the opposers, but you have to ping all the voters when you make such a change in your photo time, please keep that in mind the next time. I'll do it for you. Pinging Martin Falbisoner, Ikan Kekek, Daniel Case, Michielverbeek, Ralf Roletschek. --cart-Talk 10:21, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support --Yann (talk) 04:28, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - The original seems more natural to me; this version looks later in the day. But it's not something I'll change my vote over. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:19, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Actually it's been quite late in the afternoon with a beginning sunset so the colors are now more correct than the blueish tint it had before due to much of the light being reflected by the snow. :) --Granada (talk) 12:41, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Got it. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:47, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Distracting background. The subject is not well isolated. Also the face of the skier is not sharp. The focus seems to be on the legs, behind -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Regarding sharpness I better should have uploaded a downscaled version in 3000x2000 as in that 6MP of resolution everything would be sharp. --Granada (talk) 12:38, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Not sure, because downscaling also provides an impression of poorer quality when looking at full size (less impressive format). Also a high resolution is useful for further crops, in case of a reuse for example. Here at 6Mp, I find the face just okay, but not exceptionnal. Smooth, like lacking texture. But my main objection is the background, too busy -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:10, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Basile --Poco2 17:10, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
I withdraw my nomination I'm perfectly fine with this withdrawel. This is not my best photo. --Granada (talk) 17:47, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
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