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File:20180105 Men's handball Austria - Czechia Janko Bozovic 850 9203.jpg, featured[edit]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 12 Feb 2018 at 13:06:15 (UTC)
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Sports
Info created & uploaded by Granada - nominated by Tomer T -- Tomer T (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Support -- Tomer T (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Question Please, could you explain why this image is too smal if the camera was a NIKON D850?, thanks --The Photographer 02:20, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- If you do sports action photography downscaling images is the standard procedure of choice. The D850 features 46MP and that's exactly why I got me a D850 for shooting sports. It allows me to crop images and still have lots of megapixels left. Next as in the above image that was shot at ISO 3200 I can still downscale images to compensate for slight misses in sharpness in an overall great shot. Finally this image still has 5MP, way too much for sending it to the newspapers - they want not more than 2MP. I'm a wikipedian and shooting at national matches gives me the opportunity to take the best portrait shots ever during the hymn ceremonies before every match and that's why I attend those matches for. You may want to compare these recent images from that match Austria vs. Czechia the above image is from Category:Men's_handball_Austria_-_Czechia_2018-05-01 (the portraits have about 2-5MP and are cropped tight enough) to these older ones made with my old D4: File:20170316 OEHB Ladies AUT-CZE Tulln Josefine Huber DSC 2838.jpg (1.5MP and cropped not really tight enough). --Granada (talk) 09:38, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia may therefore not be the right place to submit your commercial/newspaper-oriented images. 11:51, 4 February 2018 (UTC) Charles (talk) 11:51, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- I am a pure wikipedian and those action shots are a by-product while taking portrait shots for the articles on Wikipedia. I don't sell any of my photographs to any kind of newspaper or press photo agency, but I need those action shots as these are the kind of photographs sometimes being reused elsewhere to argue for renewal of my press card. It was hard enough to obtain a press card if you don't earn your money through photography as a door opener to other sports events and I'm proud it has "Wikipedia" printed on it. --Granada (talk) 13:46, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Oppose Thanks Granada for your explain, however, Charles commented, Commons is not oriented only to commercial/newspaper. There are a importand information for each pixel and noise, and maybe rightnow it is irrelevant, however, in the future it would be interesting to have this photo in the largest possible size. I am convinced that with the new advances in photography, there will be mechanisms with artificial intelligence to better eliminate noise and give greater clarity. To vote positive for this photo is to stimulate the bad practice of downsizing. BTW, 1/1000 it was an excessive speed, necessary only perhaps in F1 car sports. [1] --The Photographer 20:48, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Comment 1/1000 sec good setting I think. Charles (talk) 20:52, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Yes, 1/1000 sec is necessary for a reasonably high hit rate in handball. At lower shutter speeds you will definitely see motion blur. @The Photographer: the guidelines for FP do not explicitly forbid downscaling. Please have a look at the featured sports pictures that were shot indoors (most of them are handball). The are _all_ downscaled for the very same reasons I did it with mine. --Granada (talk) 07:38, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support - I wish this photo were somewhat bigger, too, but it's exciting. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:12, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support per Ikan. Daniel Case (talk) 22:37, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support Great sport photo. --Yann (talk) 04:23, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support From a Commons perspective, wish it were bigger and less noisy. From a sports photographer POV, absolutely no complaints. 1/1000 sec is standard for sport photos like these. -- KTC (talk) 15:31, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support --Llez (talk) 19:47, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Neutral I'm OK with downsizing a high-iso image. While software may improve in the future for NR, you simply can't put back in what isn't there, and the noise = less information. However, is is 1/3 size after crop/downsize and only 4.8MP, so I'd encourage to try a bit less downsizing and deal with any pixel peeping. It would be great if it could fill a 4K screen, for example. -- Colin (talk) 12:48, 6 February 2018 (UTC)- Support Over all that arguing I forgot that I think that it would be totally legal for me to support this nomination. It's my favourite of the action shots I made at that game. --Granada (talk) 07:29, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Granada, just make sure you only support it once :-) -- Colin (talk) 08:46, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Don't worry, I'm not into sockpuppetry (in fact my only WP account Granada exists since 2004 and once was not even global). Sad enough that one of my nominations were double-opposed by PumpkinSky and HalfGig. --Granada (talk) 09:12, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support Poco2 08:20, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 9 support, 1 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /Basile Morin (talk) 13:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Sports
